[VOL 42 THEORY] What do you think Haibara's mom has told her

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sstimson wrote: Something that adds worth to my simple theory, is that Conan hear the tape and did not act in a way to suggest it was anything earth shaking. So something meanless is very likely.
Not so. Conan only heard a few seconds of the tape. Once he realized that it was Elena talking to Shiho, he handed the headphones over to her, and does not seem to have asked to listen to the tapes again. Guess he's figued that it's a personal thing, and he doesn't suspect that there's anything major in it, just a mother's last words to her daughter.
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sstimson wrote: Since Hairbara looks shocked, I want to know more about their relationship. Maybe her mom was cold to her and yet the tapes showed Hairbara a completely unexpected side of her mom.
and maybe because she hardly met her in person, isn't it said that Elena died not long after giving birth to Shiho?
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Feb914 wrote:
sstimson wrote: Since Hairbara looks shocked, I want to know more about their relationship. Maybe her mom was cold to her and yet the tapes showed Hairbara a completely unexpected side of her mom.
and maybe because she hardly met her in person, isn't it said that Elena died not long after giving birth to Shiho?
exactly...Shiho never met her mother,she only heard what the other BO members said about Helena(the whole Hell angel thing)

concerning the tapes,I still think it's either Helena said there is an other child in the family(an other brother or a sister),either something concerning her role in the BO...maybe she worked for the CIA/FBI?
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I don't know, I agree with those of you who said that it wasn't something THAT important. I don't think that Ai could just go on with her life, knowing that - I dunno - Vermouth is her real mother; maybe is sth that is really important but Ai doesn't think it is or really just sth nice Elena always wanted to say to her daughter but didn't manage to do it before (like you said .. 'I'm proud of you' or sth like that) .. Ai doesn't look really shocked to me, more like surprised
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saiyanja wrote: I don't know, I agree with those of you who said that it wasn't something THAT important. I don't think that Ai could just go on with her life, knowing that - I dunno - Vermouth is her real mother; maybe is sth that is really important but Ai doesn't think it is or really just sth nice Elena always wanted to say to her daughter but didn't manage to do it before (like you said .. 'I'm proud of you' or sth like that) .. Ai doesn't look really shocked to me, more like surprised
hmmm,I still want to know why she's surprised...if it wasn't that important,Gosho would have revealed it before...
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saiyanja wrote: I don't know, I agree with those of you who said that it wasn't something THAT important. I don't think that Ai could just go on with her life, knowing that - I dunno - Vermouth is her real mother; maybe is sth that is really important but Ai doesn't think it is or really just sth nice Elena always wanted to say to her daughter but didn't manage to do it before (like you said .. 'I'm proud of you' or sth like that) .. Ai doesn't look really shocked to me, more like surprised
hmmm,I still want to know why she's surprised...if it wasn't that important,Gosho would have revealed it before...
Unless he's epically trolling his now suspicious and paranoid readers. If he is... that's a stabbin'.
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mangaluva wrote:
AICHAN wrote:
saiyanja wrote: I don't know, I agree with those of you who said that it wasn't something THAT important. I don't think that Ai could just go on with her life, knowing that - I dunno - Vermouth is her real mother; maybe is sth that is really important but Ai doesn't think it is or really just sth nice Elena always wanted to say to her daughter but didn't manage to do it before (like you said .. 'I'm proud of you' or sth like that) .. Ai doesn't look really shocked to me, more like surprised
hmmm,I still want to know why she's surprised...if it wasn't that important,Gosho would have revealed it before...
Unless he's epically trolling his now suspicious and paranoid readers. If he is... that's a stabbin'.
I'd hate to see that too but it is possible ~~ however, it might still be sth awesome but not related to the BO :/ i can't think of anything like that now though ..
I would love to see Elena telling her daughter sth realy shocking but I still believe Ai would act differently later on, if it was so D: but hope dies last, so ...
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saiyanja wrote: however, it might still be sth awesome but not related to the BO :/
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AICHAN wrote:
Feb914 wrote:
sstimson wrote: Since Hairbara looks shocked, I want to know more about their relationship. Maybe her mom was cold to her and yet the tapes showed Hairbara a completely unexpected side of her mom.
and maybe because she hardly met her in person, isn't it said that Elena died not long after giving birth to Shiho?
exactly...Shiho never met her mother,she only heard what the other BO members said about Helena(the whole Hell angel thing)

concerning the tapes,I still think it's either Helena said there is an other child in the family(an other brother or a sister),either something concerning her role in the BO...maybe she worked for the CIA/FBI?
that's a good probability...... or they're working for interpol.... adding more and more international organisations on this matter...
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Do we know for sure if Ai knows her mother's voice? It could be Vermouth disguising her voice as usual. Unlikely, though, as Akemi would probably have known if it wasn't their mother that the tapes came from before hiding them in a toilet.
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Sorry if this has already been answered, but she says, "Shiho, won't you regret what you are about to do?  If so, I'm totally on your side!  I will never lose faith in you, do your best!"
First of all, what is "what you are about to do"?  Join the B.O?  She'd be 18 when her mom said this.  Could that have anything to do with the next line, "Maybe you're old enough to hear this.  I'm really..."?
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I would take a Conan answer to this question:
Don't you think it would be too invasive to know what the hell the talk was about?
Let the poor girl have some privacy....
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At least clarify if it's plot-related or not. I'm just hoping that Gosho isn't pulling a GS Ball on us.
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