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My only questions about Kuroda being Rum would be why would he still be working for the police after his accident?, and why would he allow himself to be transferred to an outer district if he is currently investigating members of the BO trying to find spies?
It could be that he is a double agent . Really working for the BO but fake acting for police . Like there was in the movie where Irish was disguised as some superintendent( Movie 13- The Raven Chaser and note that I'm not directly comparing both. Im just giving an example) .
And if he would be working for police after his accident then it would be good for him because he would earn the trust and loyalty of the head and policemen
A majority of the BO members that we know of seem to stick to central Beika / Haido (Tokyo) areas (when they aren't on a boat or train)
Honestly we dont know very much about the hideout or the base of operations of BO so it would be highly irrelevant to assume that BO sticks to central Beika or Haido.
And if there arent any cases on BO doing any crime outside beika or haido then doesn't mean that they aren't committing any crimes.
I think it will be Akai's father and one of the main reasons as to why the mystery child(who I think is Sera's mother) and Sera herself are in Japan. Not necessarily because they know but because they want to investigate whether he truly died. I know some may say the investigation is for Akai Shuiichi himself but I think its in addition. He is the one member of the family we still have not met(again I believe strongly the mystery child is the mom). Gosho gave an interview in the past where he stated there would be a future event in the series that nobody would expect.
I cannot remember if this was before after the Bourbon revelation but in either case most of us had guessed the Bourbon revelation and it was HEAVILY hinted often. With past events maybe he would expect us to think that Akai's father was a member of FBI who was killed by the "bad guys". Maybe he was a member of the FBI....but maybe for the first time we have the reverse and he was spying FOR the BO.
(again I believe strongly the mystery child is the mom)
But if she(MG) was Sera's mother wouldnt there be some facial appearance similar to sera ( shinichi shrank down to conan but we can still make out it is him and same goes for haibara). I think she(MG) is also a victim of APTX 4869.
(again I believe strongly the mystery child is the mom)
But if she(MG) was Sera's mother wouldnt there be some facial appearance similar to sera ( shinichi shrank down to conan but we can still make out it is him and same goes for haibara). I think she(MG) is also a victim of APTX 4869.
Wait, are u serious? You haven't even noticed those VERY CLEAR remarks how the girl Looks like Sera?!
DC's Awesome Qoutes:
Spoiler:
Bourbon:''A child's curiosity and a detective's spirit of inquiry do have much in common'' Vermouth:''A secret makes a woman, woman'' Mary/Gin:''It's like encountering a demon in the darkness...'' Akai Shuichi:''Fear of death is worse than death itself'' Shinichi Kudo:''following the smell of blood to arrive upon a crime scene, using every one of your senses to hunt the culprit, then once you've seized hold of him, sinking your sharp teeth(your evidence) until your opponent gives up the ghost, That's a detective''
alphajjc wrote:I think it will be Akai's father and one of the main reasons as to why the mystery child(who I think is Sera's mother) and Sera herself are in Japan. Not necessarily because they know but because they want to investigate whether he truly died. I know some may say the investigation is for Akai Shuiichi himself but I think its in addition. He is the one member of the family we still have not met(again I believe strongly the mystery child is the mom). Gosho gave an interview in the past where he stated there would be a future event in the series that nobody would expect.
I cannot remember if this was before after the Bourbon revelation but in either case most of us had guessed the Bourbon revelation and it was HEAVILY hinted often. With past events maybe he would expect us to think that Akai's father was a member of FBI who was killed by the "bad guys". Maybe he was a member of the FBI....but maybe for the first time we have the reverse and he was spying FOR the BO.
This is not the first time I'm hearing this idea, though I'm hoping it's not the case. I think it's being a little too repetitive the fact that we're told someone has died and is actually alive. Moreover, Akai was in the Org, if Akai's father is Rum, then why did he leave his son in the Org for 3 years? He left him because he's his father? No good, this would mean Rum isn't a real BO, and this isn't what we want. Or Akai managed to outwit his father, thinking his son was a real BO ? If he's Akai's father he should have been able to corner him somehow and way faster than 3 years. Either way, I find it too weird.
You haven't even noticed those VERY CLEAR remarks how the girl Looks like Sera?!
Sorry mate!! After that post i did some research on the Mystery Girl ( also saw you clear remarks under her eyes, same like sera or shuichi) .
If , then , she is her mother then why use the quote " I'm your sister from outside the domain/territory"
Anybody tried to figure out that . And didn't Subaru(Shuichi) say to Haibara(when she was about to reveal his scarf while Subaru was taking a nap) 'From here is my territory" or something like that . Doesn't it sound strange using the word territory . PS: I know he meant to threaten her for her own safety but he could've said that "don't do this" or something diplomatic?
If , then , she is her mother then why use the quote " I'm your sister from outside the domain/territory"
Crunchyroll translated this sentence as "I'm his sister from outside the domain", if I remember well. If it's "his sister" (talking about Conan), it coul mean that she is a shrunken adult herself.
alphajjc wrote:I think it will be Akai's father and one of the main reasons as to why the mystery child(who I think is Sera's mother) and Sera herself are in Japan. Not necessarily because they know but because they want to investigate whether he truly died. I know some may say the investigation is for Akai Shuiichi himself but I think its in addition. He is the one member of the family we still have not met(again I believe strongly the mystery child is the mom). Gosho gave an interview in the past where he stated there would be a future event in the series that nobody would expect.
I cannot remember if this was before after the Bourbon revelation but in either case most of us had guessed the Bourbon revelation and it was HEAVILY hinted often. With past events maybe he would expect us to think that Akai's father was a member of FBI who was killed by the "bad guys". Maybe he was a member of the FBI....but maybe for the first time we have the reverse and he was spying FOR the BO.
This is not the first time I'm hearing this idea, though I'm hoping it's not the case. I think it's being a little too repetitive the fact that we're told someone has died and is actually alive. Moreover, Akai was in the Org, if Akai's father is Rum, then why did he leave his son in the Org for 3 years? He left him because he's his father? No good, this would mean Rum isn't a real BO, and this isn't what we want. Or Akai managed to outwit his father, thinking his son was a real BO ? If he's Akai's father he should have been able to corner him somehow and way faster than 3 years. Either way, I find it too weird.
Repetitive? Who are a list of people that you would say were said to be dead but really alive? I hope you aren't referring to Shinichi who in terms of the main characters only Vodka thinks is "dead"...since Gin does not remember faces of the people he killed and the other BO members besides Vermouth and Bourbon don't even know of that encounter.
Isn't Akai himself one of the only person your statement relates to? Akemi is still dead.
alphajjc wrote:I think it will be Akai's father and one of the main reasons as to why the mystery child(who I think is Sera's mother) and Sera herself are in Japan. Not necessarily because they know but because they want to investigate whether he truly died. I know some may say the investigation is for Akai Shuiichi himself but I think its in addition. He is the one member of the family we still have not met(again I believe strongly the mystery child is the mom). Gosho gave an interview in the past where he stated there would be a future event in the series that nobody would expect.
I cannot remember if this was before after the Bourbon revelation but in either case most of us had guessed the Bourbon revelation and it was HEAVILY hinted often. With past events maybe he would expect us to think that Akai's father was a member of FBI who was killed by the "bad guys". Maybe he was a member of the FBI....but maybe for the first time we have the reverse and he was spying FOR the BO.
This is not the first time I'm hearing this idea, though I'm hoping it's not the case. I think it's being a little too repetitive the fact that we're told someone has died and is actually alive. Moreover, Akai was in the Org, if Akai's father is Rum, then why did he leave his son in the Org for 3 years? He left him because he's his father? No good, this would mean Rum isn't a real BO, and this isn't what we want. Or Akai managed to outwit his father, thinking his son was a real BO ? If he's Akai's father he should have been able to corner him somehow and way faster than 3 years. Either way, I find it too weird.
Akai barely even knew much about RUM, nor is it clear whether RUM met "Moroboshi Dai" or not, so your assumption that he left Akai be in the BO doesn't really disprove what alphajjc said...
DC's Awesome Qoutes:
Spoiler:
Bourbon:''A child's curiosity and a detective's spirit of inquiry do have much in common'' Vermouth:''A secret makes a woman, woman'' Mary/Gin:''It's like encountering a demon in the darkness...'' Akai Shuichi:''Fear of death is worse than death itself'' Shinichi Kudo:''following the smell of blood to arrive upon a crime scene, using every one of your senses to hunt the culprit, then once you've seized hold of him, sinking your sharp teeth(your evidence) until your opponent gives up the ghost, That's a detective''
@alphajjc : Yes, I only mean Akai. I just don't see Gosho doing it again for some reason, but anyway, it's only my opinion.
@MeiTanteixX : They didn't have to meet so that Rum would know about Akai being in the BO. In addition, Akai codenamed so he was getting important in the Org, I think Rum might have seen him or something like that. What I mean is that they didn't have to meet so Rum could see his face, he'd been in the Org for 3 years after all.
Incomplete-tantei wrote:@alphajjc : Yes, I only mean Akai. I just don't see Gosho doing it again for some reason, but anyway, it's only my opinion.
@MeiTanteixX : They didn't have to meet so that Rum would know about Akai being in the BO. In addition, Akai codenamed so he was getting important in the Org, I think Rum might have seen him or something like that. What I mean is that they didn't have to meet so Rum could see his face, he'd been in the Org for 3 years after all.
yeah i know I didn't mean anything by it. Just a respectful disagreement.
By the way you and MeiTanteixX check out my recent post in the file 913 to 91X case. There is a VERY BIG recent development I just learned of related to file 916.
If , then , she is her mother then why use the quote " I'm your sister from outside the domain/territory"
Crunchyroll translated this sentence as "I'm his sister from outside the domain", if I remember well. If it's "his sister" (talking about Conan), it coul mean that she is a shrunken adult herself.
yes I agree with you. In anime she says "tell him that I'm his sister from outside the domain". she wants to suggest that she is a shrunken adult
just like conan/shinichi.
If , then , she is her mother then why use the quote " I'm your sister from outside the domain/territory"
Crunchyroll translated this sentence as "I'm his sister from outside the domain", if I remember well. If it's "his sister" (talking about Conan), it coul mean that she is a shrunken adult herself.
yes I agree with you. In anime she says "tell him that I'm his sister from outside the domain". she wants to suggest that she is a shrunken adult
just like conan/shinichi.
I agree as well. But assuming if she already know Conan is a fellow shrunken adult somehow the fact that the child chose not to trust in a fellow shrunken adult does not seem to add up, I mean how can Conan be "not worthy of our expectations" when he already got himself in the predicament? The average Joe does not get shrunk back to a child by a weird drug developed by a secret organisation, Conan must be of a certain caliber(of threat to the Organisation) to get himself into that position. It just kinda feels like the mangaka made the child distrustful just to delay Conan's meeting with her and hence drag on the plot.
