"Akai's return?" Arc Discussion and Poll

Forum reserved for discussing specific points of the story—mostly from the manga. Be warned, these discussions will be current with the manga and will spoil many plot lines for anime-centric fans.

What are the identities of Okiya and the mysterious "Akai" appearing in 677?

I don't know.
23
34%
Okiya is Bourbon and "Akai" really is Akai
6
9%
They're both Akai; he just got tired of squinting all the time
4
6%
Neither is Akai because Akai is dead
3
4%
Okiya is Akai and "Akai" is Mizunashi Rena
1
1%
Okiya is Bourbon and "Akai" is Mizunashi Rena
1
1%
Okiya is someone else and "Akai" is Bourbon
2
3%
They're both Bourbon, who should throw a B.O. house party at Shinichi's place
3
4%
"Akai" is Okiya who is Bourbon who is Akai reinfiltrating the organization
9
13%
One of them is Vermouth
8
12%
It's Kaitou Kid!
4
6%
I don't know.
3
4%
I have my own idea which I will describe below...
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No votes
 
Total votes: 67
TheBlind
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Re: "Akai's return?" Arc Discussion and Poll

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Nyarl wrote:
TheBlind wrote:

The fact they explicitly call Haibara "Sherry". The CIA supposedly does the "renditions", not the FBI.
James never states he believes Sherry is Haibara, for all we know that sentence could be structured "The problem is Sherry, will that girl(Ai) that is connected to her accept our offer?" That isn't decisive evidence showing that they have figured anything out and by their current actions, it seems they have not.
Other times Jodie or James call her, "That brown haired girl which the Org. called Sherry."
;D You were expecting me to say "you got me" but you actually provided me with my evidence. In both panels Jodie & James imply that the B.O. refers to Haibara as Sherry while leaving the small hint that they themselves do not recognize her as such. They are still stumbled as to why the organization wants her and why do they refer to her as Sherry when the Sherry they have information on is an adult. To them Sherry-Shiho  and Sherry-Haibara are two different people. They believe one is being targeted for leaving the organization while the other is being targeted for planting a listening device(which was Conan) and being involved with the FBI(from the B.O.'s point of view). So it's understandable they would offer Sherry-Haibara the witness protection program since they believe it's partly their fault she's mixed in the situation but if they knew her as Sherry-Shiho, events would unfold differently.

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Re: "Akai's return?" Arc Discussion and Poll

Post by H...Haibara »

Nyarl wrote:
H...Haibara wrote: ...
Having said that, Okiya is probably Bourbon. I'm not trying to insinuate anything, but people probably keep thinking what they want to be the truth. During the manga, it very deliberately pointed out that he was drinking bourbon after the paper airplane file and in the opening credits for a movie he is clearly shown with the background a bourbon bottle and the word "BOURBON" splashed across the background. 
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Heh, we just learned that Akai's favorite drink was bourbon. So, no, it doesn't mean anything more than Jodie initially calling Conan "Cool Guy" and making a vague reference to the target with a "new form" which actually applied to Chris Vineyard. Conan has to at least honestly think Okiya isn't Org. He's been too open in his investigations around Okiya otherwise. (I mean openly interpreting clues, not just pointing them out or solving word puzzles). Conan's overconfident, but hopefully not prone to plot convenient idiocy.

As for the folks wondering why Shin'ichi's home was cleaned out if he trusts Okiya, we don't know he did that especially for Okiya, for all we know Yukiko thought to do that before she vanished again. As for warning Ran, if Okiya is Akai (or Conan just thinks so) then that's probably to try to keep her from poking around at the wrong time and learning too much or getting in the way of a plan to trap some Org. agents.
What?

But I kinda agree about Conan trying lure Bourbon into some sort of trap.

And dcfan01, it's not like they can force someone into witness protection. Jodie already was aware that Vermouth was tracking Haibara, and that she assume she was the brown haired girl in her picture with the X over her and darts on her face or something. I think they might be smart enough to put two and two together. Is that the right phrase?

I think everyone (myself include) could be over complicating things, but who knows? I for one can't wait to find out though.
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