Anyone else here think Kogoro knows that Conan uses him?

[RedPoppy]

I don't think Kogoro knows about it. I'm sure that if he knew it from the beginning, he would never allowed some detective brat to use him like a doll. If Kogoro discovered it after some time, he would be depressed and angry with Conan. As we see, he didn't even notice Conan's intrigues. The funniest thing is that nobody who watched Kogoro's deduction didn't get suspicious about. I mean, lately Conan behad every careless, he just stood next to Kogoro with his bowtie, he didn't even hid somewhere.

[sstimson]

http://www.onemanga.com/Detective_Conan/5/09/

http://www.onemanga.com/Detective_Conan/5/13/

http://www.onemanga.com/Detective_Conan/5/14/

http://www.onemanga.com/Detective_Conan/5/15/

http://www.onemanga.com/Detective_Conan/5/16/


Here we have where Conan kinda becomes part of Ran's Family

Now read it and tell me from Korogo's Last comment about whether or not Conan can
stay that he does not know Conan is using him ( and Vice Vera [He is using Conan] )

[xGinx]

http://www.onemanga.com/Detective_Conan/5/09/

http://www.onemanga.com/Detective_Conan/5/13/

http://www.onemanga.com/Detective_Conan/5/14/

http://www.onemanga.com/Detective_Conan/5/15/

http://www.onemanga.com/Detective_Conan/5/16/


Here we have where Conan kinda becomes part of Ran's Family

Now read it and tell me from Korogo's Last comment about whether or not Conan can
stay that he does not know Conan is using him ( and Vice Vera [He is using Conan] )

It sounds like he knew who Conan was and wanted to be used to become famous .... but he never expected to be drugged and be used like that to solve the crimes.

[Dus]

I like to think that he knows very well what is going on.
There are a few instances that point to the fact that he is aware of the sting (the onsen and the white day case) and in the latter he even thinks about his voice coming from somewhere else.
It just isn't very likely that he wouldn't think about this at all. Basically, two possible solutions should present themselves:
A) He is going crazy/schizophrenic. In this case he should have seen a psychiatrist.
B)Someone else is solving his cases for him. And there is only one possible suspect.
He was also the first person to suspect Conan and Conan never bothered to dispel these doubts. He also takes pride in the few cases he did solve himself (he even taped the one with his childhood friend, watching it over and over). The ones Conan solves? Not so much, although they have been shown on TV as well.

And even if there are other characters who have been stunned by Conan, Kogoro is easily the most intelligent of the three and had a lot more opportunity to catch on.
Why doesn't he confront Shinichi with his knowledge?
Why Should he?
This Setup is actually rather convenient for him, he gets fame for doing no actual work. Also he knows that Ran would be pretty upset if she found out.

What troubles me the most is that I couldn't say WHEN he finds out, not even roughly. In vol. 25, when Ran note she and Conan share the same blood group, he seems almost disstressed. It wouldn't be unusual for Ran to know that, since blood groups are basically the Japanese horoscopes. Yet, earlier in the same arc he suggests that Ran take a bath together with Conan....

[Yoshimi Kurosaki]

Being a successful police officer (like he was) means that he would have to be fairly smart and extremely logical. I can't see him actually believing that he can pass out and solve cases like they're 9-piece jigsaw puzzles. I'm surprised that no one has told him to get an MRI or something yet.

I think that he actually respects Shinichi somewhere very, very, very, VERY deep, but I don't think he knows that he is Conan.

Now, as for the question of whether or not he knows that Conan is up to something and involved in his sudden bouts of unconsciousness...yes. I'm sure he's figured something out by now. But who is he to complain? He's famous.

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

If Kogoro knows, I am pretty sure he realizes whoever Shinichi had gotten involved must be incredibly bad news: whoever it was shrunk Shinichi back to grade school age. Kogoro also probably knows that Shinichi is not telling them about what happened to try to protect them. The situation called for separating from Ran and hurting her immensely, and Kogoro no doubt realizes Ran and Shinichi's feelings for one another, and he knows that Shinichi wouldn't just split from his daughter willingly if he could avoid it. If Shinichi isn't telling Kogoro or the cops what happened, it's obvious that Shinichi is trying to protect himself, and Ran, and Kogoro. Kogoro has probably decided it is best to play the ignorant part and make sure Conan doesn't stand out too much until the time Conan chooses to properly explain what happened.
That said, he might not know exactly how Shinichi is making him solve cases or why.

[Dus]

More or less what I'd say. But one thing bugs me:

Spoiler:

If he knows what's going on and is okay with it, we did he try to keep himself from being tranquilized in the White-Day case? That kinda contradicts

what happened at the onsen, where he didn't notice it when Conan shot him.

Spoiler: File 745

If I'm right and Conan/Shinichi tells Ran his identity in the next chapter, then there's a chance we'll get a hint that Kogoro has figured it out a long time ago.

[Eve]

More or less what I'd say. But one thing bugs me:

Spoiler:

If he knows what's going on and is okay with it, we did he try to keep himself from being tranquilized in the White-Day case? That kinda contradicts

what happened at the onsen, where he didn't notice it when Conan shot him.

Spoiler: File 745

If I'm right and Conan/Shinichi tells Ran his identity in the next chapter, then there's a chance we'll get a hint that Kogoro has figured it out a long time ago.

Kogoro sounds suspicious

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

More or less what I'd say. But one thing bugs me:
If he knows what's going on and is okay with it, we did he try to keep himself from being tranquilized in the White-Day case? That kinda contradicts what happened at the onsen, where he didn't notice it when Conan shot him.

Spoiler: File 745

If I'm right and Conan/Shinichi tells Ran his identity in the next chapter, then there's a chance we'll get a hint that Kogoro has figured it out a long time ago.

Spoiler: 745

There is no way that's happening.

[Dus]

More or less what I'd say. But one thing bugs me:
If he knows what's going on and is okay with it, we did he try to keep himself from being tranquilized in the White-Day case? That kinda contradicts what happened at the onsen, where he didn't notice it when Conan shot him.

Spoiler: File 745

If I'm right and Conan/Shinichi tells Ran his identity in the next chapter, then there's a chance we'll get a hint that Kogoro has figured it out a long time ago.

Spoiler: 745

There is no way that's happening.

Spoiler:

;_;
Shinichi confessing or a hint about Kogoro knowing?

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

There is no way that's happening.

;_;
Shinichi confessing or a hint about Kogoro knowing?

Shinichi confessing.

[Eve]

Spoiler: 745

There is no way that's happening.

Spoiler:

;_;
Shinichi confessing or a hint about Kogoro knowing?

Spoiler:

Shinichi confessing.

+1

[Yoshimi Kurosaki]

Spoiler: 745

There is no way that's happening.

Spoiler:

;_;
Shinichi confessing or a hint about Kogoro knowing?

Spoiler:

Shinichi confessing.

+1

Agreed. That's a ways off, I think. But hopefully we'll see something involving their relationship.

[saorin]

Kogoro knowing (or even suspecting) that Conan is Shinichi, I rule out with a lot of personal conviction XD

The thing about him knowing that Conan - or someone else at that - is solving is cases...Hnngh.
I guess we all agree that he actually SHOULD have noticed by now that something is definitely fishy. The Problem I see is : as long as Gosho wants to let Conan keep solving cases (or not only cases with the DB or Sonoko, which we all don't want to see infinitely), there's barely a way to let Kogoro have the knowledge that Conan is using him. Yes, he might just keep pretending he doesn't know, but then you'd have to find some very good reasons as to why he is doing this for such a long time...
Even though he's desperate to be famous and successful, we also get to see his proud side, so I'm not positive that he'd just keep falsely taking all the credit for himself without a proper reason...And the only one I could think of is "shield Shinichi" which doesn't make sense in my view as I definitely don't believe he suspects Conan to be Shinichi.

That is not to say that he isn't suspicious of Conan's wide range of knowlegde, however. There are times he openly shows that. Maybe he's just not involved with enough supernatural stuff to think of Conan as anyhing else than a frighteningly smart kid?

[Stopwatch]

Not seen this thread in ages.
So, the White Day case shows that Kogorou knows 'bout the prick when he's tranq'd and I reckon he knows something's up. The thing is, with his personality he isn't going to dig until he needs to or he's given a big enough hint.
Anyway, Conan hasn't used any of his 'Sleeping Detectives' once he figured out that he could just 'phone Shinichi-niichan for the solution', though that could lead to people (including Kogorou who is sometimes skeptical of of Conan's knowledge) figuring out Conan=Shinichi as Conan doesn't really bother with attempting to hide his personality when revealing the case. At the moment the really suspicious people should probably be Ran, Takagi and Megure-keibu (Sera doesn't count 'cause I think she already knows) and after that it should be Kogorou, but I don't think Aoyama's gonna have Megure knowing and I'm not gonna go into how much Takagi knows at the moment. So that makes Ran and Kogorou possibly the most suspicious of Conan, though for utterly different reasons, it possible that he'll figure it out, but I don't think he's quite there yet.