Detective Conan Files 801-803 Discussion Thread: Domestic Vi

[eva]

I can not believe that conan let him go  
i mean he wanted to kill her that makes him (criminal),is it?
conan what happened to there's no reason to kill people and guilty is guilty no matter what ..where's that words now

[Kleene Onigiri]

Uh, he never said: "guilty is guilty no matter what" O_o"

[Incomplete-tantei]

And Conan never said "there's no reason to kill someone" either. I think you're referring to what he said to Vermouth ? xD "I don't know why you would kill someone but as for saving someone a logical mind isn't needed, right?". He also did say "I can't understand why people have to kill each other even though I understand how.."

[Incomplete-tantei]

I do like how Haibara was involved in confronting and stopping the criminal (doesn't happen too often)

Instead of a long rant of my problems with this case ... I decided instead to do a fanciful full page rewrite to illustrate them and my (fanfiction) hopes!:

In 802, Conan thinks to himself: "Things have gone too well ... It's like this is the work of something intentional ..."

But I was just wondering : Haibara wouldn't say "Black Organization" would she? ^^ that term is more appropriated to Conan who first called the Organization like that.
As for Haibara she'd just say "Organization" IMO.

[HADAA]

Ten's edit is awesome 

@Incomplete:
Haibara did say "whom you [Conan] referred to as the Black Organization" before (Desperate Revival), suggests that she either didn't know the formal name of the organization or she didn't want to reveal too much information to Conan, fearing that curiosity may kill the cat 

[xpon]

I love how Ai keep repeating that she will not tolerate and forgive the culprit if she was the victim.

this case have a very sad feeling. the cause is just a simple misunderstanding... make me remember a couple case

~ someone murder his boss in elevator (Conan Manga Special)
~ The Locked Bathroom Murder Case (Chapter 197 - 199 )

those case also end up with the murder regret his actions because it all just a simple misundertanding

[Kikiko]

Hey guys just be careful about blaming the wife for staying with him. She is the victim here and cannot be blamed for her actions.
Ultimately it was Conan and Takushi's plan that stopped this one from going through the justice system (and Gosho's bad writing in making this case in the first place).

[xpon]

The wife did love him.
She also pregnant.

but Ai reactions is so cute

[Kikiko]

I know she did, I'm addressing the victim blaming in Ten's comic of "what does that say about the wife who forgave him?"

[ten]

I know she did, I'm addressing the victim blaming in Ten's comic of "what does that say about the wife who forgave him?"

I get 100% what you say and I agree that you shouldn't truly blame the wife for her reaction (that was unfair what I made Haibara say about her) -- in part this is why I incredibly disagree with what Conan did -- letting her husband see her and talk to her in the HOSPITAL right after she wakes up after all the mental & physical trauma she just experienced (some how it reminds of how some women in abusive relationships forgive / dismiss their spouse/boyfriend's behavior and there you shouldn't be faulting the women in those situations).

In this case the wife is in the hospital when the man she loves and who tried to kill her shows up right after recovering -- I don't think the wife or anyone could have a normal state of mind.

Conan should have left it to the police and the justice system

(maybe this 'arrogance'? will come back to haunt him later on with the possible Haibara & Akai confrontation about Haibara's sister .. I feel this case was in part of a setup for that in where later on Haibara questions Conan's friendship/loyalty to her)

This case sure brought out a lot of conflicting feelings for me about Conan and Haibara's response to the same case, though...

[Kikiko]

Thank you, that was a great reply. I was definitely trying to be gentle while making the reminder.

If this is a set up for a change in Conan and Haibara's friendship, I really hope Conan comes out of it looking better than he did at the end of this case.

[Kleene Onigiri]

Thank you, that was a great reply. I was definitely trying to be gentle while making the reminder.

If this is a set up for a change in Conan and Haibara's friendship, I really hope Conan comes out of it looking better than he did at the end of this case.

Conan was great at the end of the case

[Wakarimashita]

Thank you, that was a great reply. I was definitely trying to be gentle while making the reminder.

If this is a set up for a change in Conan and Haibara's friendship, I really hope Conan comes out of it looking better than he did at the end of this case.

Conan was great at the end of the case

+1

[Borealis]

see it like this: if he lets the husband be arrested, he destroys a family that at least could have a happy ever after. He leaves the choice to the wife. If she can't forgive him, the relationship is over anyway. If she can forgive him, that means that they have a good chance of working things out.
Also, it isn't as if she couldn't sell him out (like she said) she only has to tell the police that she found out about this being planned later on.

I also don't think that Conan would have let him go if he hadn't shown remorse. He was really sorry and thus had a chance to change.

[mihai]

see it like this: if he lets the husband be arrested, he destroys a family that at least could have a happy ever after. He leaves the choice to the wife. If she can't forgive him, the relationship is over anyway. If she can forgive him, that means that they have a good chance of working things out.
Also, it isn't as if she couldn't sell him out (like she said) she only has to tell the police that she found out about this being planned later on.

I also don't think that Conan would have let him go if he hadn't shown remorse. He was really sorry and thus had a chance to change.

I agree with you. Conan felt he deserved a second chance and let his wife to decide whether she can forgive her husband or not. OK, now I want Amuro/Bourbon/Okiya related stuff!!!!