Akai (SPOILERS)

[Shuusgirl]

If Conan is not in the plan. Conan did not know Akai was called out. Conan did not know he's in dangerous situation. Conan did not know Akai will return as a burnt body. Conan has no reason to check the serial number in the first place and almost impossible for him to deduct that change of phone mean Akai successfully escape his death.

Akai admit to Kir that Conan leave him and the FBI speechless, even thought he's a little boy, I think he trust Conan enough. And the reason Conan know is not because Akai tell him. But they plan it together. Otherwise Conan would not regard the plan as matter of lif and death to Akai since it's oly Camel and KIr will put thire life in danger.

That, or he knows that Conan's not just a little boy.  There's evidence that he at least knows that Conan's not.  Not that I think that Akai knows that he's Shinichi, but it seems that he knows Haibara's Shiho, and from there it's just a step to Conan's shrunk too.
So him planning to fake his death with Conan makes sense.  There are other times when he leaves situations up to Conan, like not worrying when Conan's kidnapped by Vermouth.

One of the best parts of the series in its modern incarnation is the dynamic between Conan & Akai. There's this unspoken trust between them that makes them quite a formidable duo. I'm really looking forward to the "reveal" later in this arc and the Okiakai/Conan explanation of everything... just hope it doesn't take us too long to get there.

I agree, when the two of them work together they make the most amazing results just about ever.

[Suutashi]

If Conan is not in the plan. Conan did not know Akai was called out. Conan did not know he's in dangerous situation. Conan did not know Akai will return as a burnt body. Conan has no reason to check the serial number in the first place and almost impossible for him to deduct that change of phone mean Akai successfully escape his death.

Akai admit to Kir that Conan leave him and the FBI speechless, even thought he's a little boy, I think he trust Conan enough. And the reason Conan know is not because Akai tell him. But they plan it together. Otherwise Conan would not regard the plan as matter of lif and death to Akai since it's oly Camel and KIr will put thire life in danger.

That, or he knows that Conan's not just a little boy.  There's evidence that he at least knows that Conan's not.  Not that I think that Akai knows that he's Shinichi, but it seems that he knows Haibara's Shiho, and from there it's just a step to Conan's shrunk too.
So him planning to fake his death with Conan makes sense.  There are other times when he leaves situations up to Conan, like not worrying when Conan's kidnapped by Vermouth.

Actually when you think about it, the fact that Akai treats Conan as an equal doesn't necessarily mean he knows who he really is. You can use Yamato and Koumei in both the Fuurinkazan Case and the Red Wall Case as examples of those who treat Conan as an equal yet are neither in on his secret nor are they his current physical age.

[User 4869]

If Conan is not in the plan. Conan did not know Akai was called out. Conan did not know he's in dangerous situation. Conan did not know Akai will return as a burnt body. Conan has no reason to check the serial number in the first place and almost impossible for him to deduct that change of phone mean Akai successfully escape his death.

Akai admit to Kir that Conan leave him and the FBI speechless, even thought he's a little boy, I think he trust Conan enough. And the reason Conan know is not because Akai tell him. But they plan it together. Otherwise Conan would not regard the plan as matter of lif and death to Akai since it's oly Camel and KIr will put thire life in danger.

That, or he knows that Conan's not just a little boy.  There's evidence that he at least knows that Conan's not.  Not that I think that Akai knows that he's Shinichi, but it seems that he knows Haibara's Shiho, and from there it's just a step to Conan's shrunk too.
So him planning to fake his death with Conan makes sense.  There are other times when he leaves situations up to Conan, like not worrying when Conan's kidnapped by Vermouth.

At that time, Akai still refer to Conan as annoying kid (or he just refer to Ran and Haibara) the reason he leave Conan with Vermouth because (mainly) he has no way to chase, when Jodie blame him for letting her go. he answer with how Jodie leave the key in the car and she got away easier.

i agree with Yamato and Koumei incident. They did not (and did not have reason to) know his identity but still think of him as better than them.

[AICHAN]

If Conan is not in the plan. Conan did not know Akai was called out. Conan did not know he's in dangerous situation. Conan did not know Akai will return as a burnt body. Conan has no reason to check the serial number in the first place and almost impossible for him to deduct that change of phone mean Akai successfully escape his death.

Akai admit to Kir that Conan leave him and the FBI speechless, even thought he's a little boy, I think he trust Conan enough. And the reason Conan know is not because Akai tell him. But they plan it together. Otherwise Conan would not regard the plan as matter of lif and death to Akai since it's oly Camel and KIr will put thire life in danger.

That, or he knows that Conan's not just a little boy.  There's evidence that he at least knows that Conan's not.  Not that I think that Akai knows that he's Shinichi, but it seems that he knows Haibara's Shiho, and from there it's just a step to Conan's shrunk too.
So him planning to fake his death with Conan makes sense.  There are other times when he leaves situations up to Conan, like not worrying when Conan's kidnapped by Vermouth.

One of the best parts of the series in its modern incarnation is the dynamic between Conan & Akai. There's this unspoken trust between them that makes them quite a formidable duo. I'm really looking forward to the "reveal" later in this arc and the Okiakai/Conan explanation of everything... just hope it doesn't take us too long to get there.

Yeah,I have to say you're right...I like their interaction,the trust between them...it's very interesting

[kkslider5552000]

just hope it doesn't take us too long to get there.

too late

[WolfenAmphithere]

Kyuu, many times you've said you'd be pissed if Gosho tried to validate the theories of Akai surviving... well, here's proof he's not afraid to try:

Spoiler:

I love how even Shiratori knows how much BS that was xD

[Suutashi]

Kyuu, many times you've said you'd be pissed if Gosho tried to validate the theories of Akai surviving... well, here's proof he's not afraid to try:

Spoiler:

I love how even Shiratori knows how much BS that was xD

We really need a thread like this one ----> http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?p=426473#p426473 where we can point out where there are instances where DC has been wrong about this kind of stuff.

Spoiler:

A mahjong tile stopping a bullet is pure nonsense. Then again so is shooting all the way through a sniper scope from 700 yards away when doing so at almost point blank range is just not going to happen.

Then we can get a better idea as to what is truly possible and impossible in the world of Detective Conan.

[kyuuketsuki]

@Wolfen, did you read the entirety of the debate between Chek and I? I said that because the way they showed the gun shot, it would be highly implausible to survive. The likelihood of anyone surviving a point blank shot to the head is slim to none at best. Likely the exit wound would blow the back of his head out. Unless a blank was used and it somehow left him barely alive. Which is unlikely to happen, because at that range a blank would act the same way as a bullet.

That pic is laughably impossible, but that bullet was not fired at point blank like it was with Akai.

[WolfenAmphithere]

@Wolfen, did you read the entirety of the debate between Chek and I? I said that because the way they showed the gun shot, it would be highly implausible to survive. The likelihood of anyone surviving a point blank shot to the head is slim to none at best. Likely the exit wound would blow the back of his head out. Unless a blank was used and it somehow left him barely alive. Which is unlikely to happen, because at that range a blank would act the same way as a bullet.

That pic is laughably impossible, but that bullet was not fired at point blank like it was with Akai.

My point wasn't so much the fact that it proves Akai can be alive; moreso that Gosho isn't hesitant to try to BS stuff xD And I did read it awhile back, but not in the last month or two...

[SZ5531]

When I was reading the chapter of Akai's death  :'( I was thoroughly convinced that

Spoiler:

this was the end of our badass friend :S

It seemed so obvious to my little brain.

Anyway this talk about the gunshot fired from a close range reminds me of the Rena and Ethan Hondou, how "she shot" him from under the chin. We all know what happened to him, as a result of that. Why can't Akai meet the same fate? (yeah, he is smarter than that and the gun was a little further away from him....)or something along the lines that  about Rena shooting from under the chin that Gin said when he was in the car talking to Vodka about traitors, 'Hondou' having many identities and Kir demonstating loyalty to the BO... I need to remember what chapter that was in...

(sorry, about my ramblings; my memory is really fuzzy)

~

[Kaia]

about Rena shooting from under the chin that Gin said when he was in the car talking to Vodka about traitors, 'Hondou' having many identities and Kir demonstating loyalty to the BO... I need to remember what chapter that was in...

It was in episode 464.
In Manga, it is the tenth file in volume 53.

[SZ5531]

about Rena shooting from under the chin that Gin said when he was in the car talking to Vodka about traitors, 'Hondou' having many identities and Kir demonstating loyalty to the BO... I need to remember what chapter that was in...

It was in episode 464.
In Manga, it is the tenth file in volume 53.

good! that helps me in the investigation i'll look that up right now~

[Tanaka Taro]

BTW why does Bourbon have a grudge against Akai (according to Gin in episode 580 and 581) if he is only a new member to the Black Organisation.   

[Dus]

(S)he is not necessarily a new member to the BO but has only recently been awarded a code-name.

[SZ5531]

BTW why does Bourbon have a grudge against Akai (according to Gin in episode 580 and 581) if he is only a new member to the Black Organisation.   

Akai was quite skilled, active as an FBI agent and probably took many 'missions'.
There is every reason why Bourbon would hate him