Detective Conan Files 801-803 Discussion Thread: Domestic Vi

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

anyway just point out that it seem Gosho make some critical research mistake.  

I did a spot of research for personal interest on rhesus factor distribution at one point. Minus blood is very rare in Japan and among Asians in general. Japan has it bad because its population is more homogenous ethnically than other countries. The main sources of minus blood in Japan are foreigners, because they have very few citizens to get it from. Japanese blood banks will take visiting Rh- foreigner's blood even though the blood of people who have been traveling is less desirable.

someone somewhere is right though they prefer exact match to simply compatible. I think part of the problem is the donor blood (if it includes plasma), if it has antibodies, can react against the receiver, especially when lots of blood is needed.

[rrizqiw]

of course he can make mistake. nothing special about that. is just i found it jarring that he for got some basic info.

thought consider blood type is kinda complicated i guess it make sense if he slipped this.

main reason why i found it bit jarring is that last week i have friend that had car accident. my other friend corcern if hospital have enough blood for him (fortunately they have). i say about this stuff. (he is ok by the way in case you worry)

True, but nowadays hospitals try to minimize (if at all) giving blood that are not of the same group even if they don't have antibody/antigen clashes. So, even if theoretically AB- can receive an O- or A- transfusion, in practice this is not done unless they are desperate.

well, in hospital where my cousin work (which where i learn this stuff). if there is rare blood type. they tend use negative blood if there is no AB-. if it common blood. they usually ask doctor or friend to donor their blood if they match before using alternative. (they also do this for AB- but usually not result).

if the blood type is common. usually cross transfusion happens if disaster happens and resulting many people injury

his hospital not in japan so it maybe work differently.

I did a spot of research for personal interest on rhesus factor distribution at one point. Minus blood is very rare in Japan and among Asians in general. Japan has it bad because its population is more homogenous ethnically than other countries. The main sources of minus blood in Japan are foreigners, because they have very few citizens to get it from. Japanese blood banks will take visiting Rh- foreigner's blood even though the blood of people who have been traveling is less desirable.

someone somewhere is right though they prefer exact match to simply compatible. I think part of the problem is the donor blood (if it includes plasma), if it has antibodies, can react against the receiver, especially when lots of blood is needed.

Exact match definitively more preferably since there is other variable like plasma that effect it. thought they tend to be minor side effect.

just do some calculation it seem in JP AB- is roughly 1 in 3300 (instead 1 in 5000 which Conan say).

Hospital supposed to be have enough blood ESPECIALLY if it rare one. (not sure if this is right but my cousin if blood type is rare they have a database of people that have rare blood and ask them personally if they want to be donor just to make sure they have enough blood on bank).

so yeah they definitively have reason to be worry because it rare blood type. but if i think closely that kinda exaggeration.

then again me and my cousin not live in japan so it maybe different there.

of course Gosho may already research it. but he decide to ignore it to make it more dramatic

anyway minor complain

[ten]

just do some calculation it seem in JP AB- is roughly 1 in 3300 (instead 1 in 5000 which Conan say).

remember though, that both of those numbers (although roughly on same order of magnitude), are the percentage of people with the blood type in Japan.
If you look at red cross website for Japan the last statistic (from 2007 I think it was) says there were ~25 million donors (out of ~127 million Japanese people in the country).

So just to give you an idea of how rare it is, just assume that the distribution of people donating blood's blood type is uniform relative to the blood type of the whole population (I realize this is inaccurate but it gives you a better idea of the rarity):

25 million donors * ( 1 / 3300 people with AB RH negative) ~= 7500  donors donating AB RH neg blood a year.

The real absolute number of AB RH neg donors I'm sure is a bit different, but it gives you an idea that it is this absolute number that is so small that has Conan worried.

[rrizqiw]

25 million donors? that very few

why is that

Never mind it normal if you think again.

yeah it definitively shocking for to hear when she have Rare blood type. but if you think again it's not really very bad situation (as long it's not Bombay)

[Abeizzle]

is gosho takin two weeks holiday

[kuro_shiro]

is gosho takin two weeks holiday

NO, this time shounen sunday is giving holiday to ALL its mangaka.sunday give these every year

[Abeizzle]

is gosho takin two weeks holiday

NO, this time shounen sunday is giving holiday to ALL its mangaka.sunday give these every year

Thank u , but i cant wait 2 more weeks thats unfair         

[shuu]

What?? I thought there is only 1 week break?? Are there 2??? Well, 803 should be on Jan25 so we can have the Chinese file around Jan18, right?

[Abeizzle]

What?? I thought there is only 1 week break?? Are there 2??? Well, 803 should be on Jan25 so we can have the Chinese file around Jan18, right?

Next file is 18/1/12

[shuu]

Sorry I had prob with counting days lol. Yeah... 803 on Jan18 which means we can have the Chinese file next week. So we only have 1 week break, don't we? :d

[Kleene Onigiri]

Well, would you keep your little sister in a evil organization, where they force her to do a drug that kills people? :p
Even if it's just developing the drug, it's still her "action" and it can affect her mentally to know that she killed people indirectly.


And the file... doesn't the lady's wound (wound in the chest) remind you of Akemi and her dying moment? :V Conan was also holding Akemi in his arms D:
And there is a flashback of Akemi too by haibara... so if that woman is pregnant... was Akemi pregnant too then?! (a hint? D:) Remember Akemis message to Akai? There was a P.S. too! D: >.<
Also, the panel where Akemi was holding Akais arm. Akai looks like a ganster there xD

It's a good reason, but why at that time? Why after Shiho reach 18 years old? And isn't it easier if she ask Akai for help when they're still dating? But no, she spend her time enjoying a date with Akai when her younger sister worried about her. Even when she have learned that Akai makes her life and Shiho's life in danger, she still want to have a date with Akai.
It makes me wonder just how great a date with Akai was. XD

I don't think Akemi was pregnant. If Akemi was pregnant, Conan will know about it and when he learn about Akai's involvement in Akemi's death, he will help Ai kill Akai, not help Akai deceiving Ai. XD

There's too many cheerful women around Akai (Sera, Jodie, Akemi), that's why he looks like a gangster everytime. XD

Well, somehow the way you describe it, it sounds as if Akemi is a really bad person :x
But if you think about it, Conan and Ai are in a bad situation too atm. Does that mean they can't have fun and relax in the meantime? D: If they are already stressed, then they need to relax sometime too, otherwise they would collapse.
Also, there was that one scene where Akemi wasn't shocked to hear that Akai is a spy/FBI. So Akemi knew it at some point before that. Maybe she also dated Akai in order to get help first, and then fell in love for real. (Like Akai used her too)
So it's not like she was just enjoying her life the whole time, forgetting about her sister.

Huh? O.o
Why would Conan help Ai killing Akai? o.o Doesn't make sense.
Especially since Ai developed a drug that killed people. And since Conan himself wasn't able to save someone from suicide either.
Conan wasn't able to save Akemi either, so he would be as guilty as Akai.

It was also just a thought, since the scene was so similar :x
And Gosho couldn't have stabbed the woman's stomach, in case she's really pregnant.

I think the stabbing is a bit strange too?
If the man would have wanted to kill his wife, he would have pulled out the knife too? To ensure she doesn't survive/higher chance that she'll die.
Now that she could survive, she could tell the truth.
So pulling the knife out and making the self-defense look more fishy would have been better than letting her stay alive and the risk of her telling the truth D:

[Stopwatch]

I think the stabbing is a bit strange too?
If the man would have wanted to kill his wife, he would have pulled out the knife too? To ensure she doesn't survive/higher chance that she'll die.
Now that she could survive, she could tell the truth.
So pulling the knife out and making the self-defense look more fishy would have been better than letting her stay alive and the risk of her telling the truth D:

Possible explanation for this is that if the kids had been anyone other than Conan and Haibara, the woman would have died anyway and he could have claimed to be in shock, it's probably only because Conan and Haibara knew what to do that she got to hospital as well (and alive ) as she did...

[Kleene Onigiri]

I think the stabbing is a bit strange too?
If the man would have wanted to kill his wife, he would have pulled out the knife too? To ensure she doesn't survive/higher chance that she'll die.
Now that she could survive, she could tell the truth.
So pulling the knife out and making the self-defense look more fishy would have been better than letting her stay alive and the risk of her telling the truth D:

Possible explanation for this is that if the kids had been anyone other than Conan and Haibara, the woman would have died anyway and he could have claimed to be in shock, it's probably only because Conan and Haibara knew what to do that she got to hospital as well (and alive ) as she did...

Agasa was with them...

[Stopwatch]

I think the stabbing is a bit strange too?
If the man would have wanted to kill his wife, he would have pulled out the knife too? To ensure she doesn't survive/higher chance that she'll die.
Now that she could survive, she could tell the truth.
So pulling the knife out and making the self-defense look more fishy would have been better than letting her stay alive and the risk of her telling the truth D:

Possible explanation for this is that if the kids had been anyone other than Conan and Haibara, the woman would have died anyway and he could have claimed to be in shock, it's probably only because Conan and Haibara knew what to do that she got to hospital as well (and alive ) as she did...

Agasa was with them...

...sorry, I have no idea how I forgot that D:

[Sherry86]

Well, somehow the way you describe it, it sounds as if Akemi is a really bad person :x
But if you think about it, Conan and Ai are in a bad situation too atm. Does that mean they can't have fun and relax in the meantime? D: If they are already stressed, then they need to relax sometime too, otherwise they would collapse.
Also, there was that one scene where Akemi wasn't shocked to hear that Akai is a spy/FBI. So Akemi knew it at some point before that. Maybe she also dated Akai in order to get help first, and then fell in love for real. (Like Akai used her too)
So it's not like she was just enjoying her life the whole time, forgetting about her sister.

Huh? O.o
Why would Conan help Ai killing Akai? o.o Doesn't make sense.
Especially since Ai developed a drug that killed people. And since Conan himself wasn't able to save someone from suicide either.
Conan wasn't able to save Akemi either, so he would be as guilty as Akai.

It was also just a thought, since the scene was so similar :x
And Gosho couldn't have stabbed the woman's stomach, in case she's really pregnant.

I think the stabbing is a bit strange too?
If the man would have wanted to kill his wife, he would have pulled out the knife too? To ensure she doesn't survive/higher chance that she'll die.
Now that she could survive, she could tell the truth.
So pulling the knife out and making the self-defense look more fishy would have been better than letting her stay alive and the risk of her telling the truth D:

Maybe it sounds like that but it wasn't like that.
When I read a scene about Shiho stopped her research because the Org didn't give her explanation why the Org eliminated her sister, I thought Shiho didn't know anything about Akai, about Akemi and Akai's relationship and about Akai betrayed the Org. That's why she asked the Org about her sister death.
But the recent chapter showed that Shiho knew all of that. So why she asked the Org back then if she already knew all of that? It makes me think that Shiho have managed to bail Akemi out from death sentence after Akai betrayed the Org. That's why she demanded an explanation about her sister death from the Org.
It leads me to think that the Org eliminated Akemi because Akemi try to get herself and Shiho out from the Org. Akemi have caused trouble for the Org with Rye, so the Org can't tolerate Akemi anymore with that.
So I wonder why Akemi try to get herself and Shiho out from the Org even if Shiho seems doing fine in the Org at that moment, even after Akai's betrayal.

Maybe Akemi want to get help from Akai, but she seems never try to do it, even after she knew that Akai is FBI agent. So her good intentions stayed as good intentions and not become reality.

About 'Conan help Ai killing Akai', it just sarcastic joke for Conan who keeping secret about Akai from Ai for 'what I hope are for Ai's sake'. But I know I'm not good at joking, so don't mind it.

About the stabbing, maybe the man realized that killing his wife is wrong after he stabbed his wife. That's why he can't move and just staring at his unconscious wife after the stabbing.

Well, I hope after this arc, Akai will warming up a bit as his character development. I think he's a heartless person because he dumped Jodie coldly after he fall in love with Akemi and he dumped Akemi in the Org after his betrayal even if he know that Akemi's life in danger.