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xGinx wrote:
Or how about an unknown drug turning teenagers into Grade School boys??
I believe it should be scientifically possible in the future.. Give it some decades to go..

The non-logical part was the portion of body masses which gone / added during his transformation...
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baka1412 wrote:
xGinx wrote: Or how about an unknown drug turning teenagers into Grade School boys??
I believe it should be scientifically possible in the future.. Give it some decades to go..
The non-logical part was the portion of body masses which gone / added during his transformation...
I think reversing aging won't ever be done. It would be easier to clone yourself and transplant your brain into the younger body of the clone/rewire the clone's brain to match yours.

The second part reminds me of this discussion.
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: It would be easier to clone yourself and transplant your brain into the younger body of the clone/rewire the clone's brain to match yours.
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
baka1412 wrote:
xGinx wrote: Or how about an unknown drug turning teenagers into Grade School boys??
I believe it should be scientifically possible in the future.. Give it some decades to go..
The non-logical part was the portion of body masses which gone / added during his transformation...
I think reversing aging won't ever be done. It would be easier to clone yourself and transplant your brain into the younger body of the clone/rewire the clone's brain to match yours.

The second part reminds me of this discussion.
You remind me of this movie, The 6th Day by Arnold Schwarzenegger
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xGinx wrote: and exactly How DC is Logical??
My bad. I mixed up words. What I meant to say is "realistic", better yet "fairly realistic"
ShiraKiryuu wrote: So the FBI trusting a 7 year old logical?
Bending the rules for the main character - The story has to go on people! In other words, it has been done before by others. Or, it's the main character, you will ALWAYS have to bend the rules in some way. Or, been there, done that (well, I don't recall a specific issue in which I somehow bended the rules for the sake of my main character, but in my eyes, my current work is perfect, so I won't be able to find flaws in it)
Bending the rules for a character that isn't needed in any way for the end of DC - what's the point?

Some characters are meant only for the arc they were in (I.E. Araide). After having nothing to do with them, the best thing a writer can do is either kill them or get rid of them.
Sending Eisuke with a dream to join the CIA - A wonderful way to get rid of a character and still show the character has some more depth left, or "story"
Sending Eisuke to actually join the CIA and come back - again, the point?
ProfParanoia wrote: But he can bend so many rules of the FBI, like lieing to the police of their existence while trying to capture numerous criminals?
Yet we don't see highschool FBI members. Why? Because it doesn't make any sense (and if someone is going to say "since when does DC make any sense?" well..........good for them)
Highschoolers don't and can't become FBI members or CIA agents. Even if they did, they would still have to spend a lot of time in training before they can actually be a field agent. Since a year didn't even pass in DC, and the fact that Eisuke left no too long ago, bringing him back in, as a CIA member would be stupid. Any adult CIA agent who knows japanese would probably make a better candidate than Eisuke. Heck, sending him in will endanger his sister much more than it would help her.
xGinx wrote: Or how about an unknown drug turning teenagers into Grade School boys??
You mean the fantasy/scifi element-plot-device that was forced into a story with fairly realistic settings in order to actually have the current story we have now? (I can't really pick if its fantasy or scifi. Gosho obviously tried to present it with science, but he fails, and some tricks are impossible as well)
Just because I have a romance going on in my story, doesn't make it a love story. Just because Gosho has fantasy/scifi element, doesn't make his story a fantasy/scify story.
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xGinx wrote:

Or how about an unknown drug turning teenagers into Grade School boys??
Do you know something we don't?. Is Heiji about to be given the Drug?

It should be BOY


Edit: Kids Forgot about Hairbara
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Kor wrote:
xGinx wrote: Or how about an unknown drug turning teenagers into Grade School boys??
You mean the fantasy/scifi element-plot-device that was forced into a story with fairly realistic settings in order to actually have the current story we have now? (I can't really pick if its fantasy or scifi. Gosho obviously tried to present it with science, but he fails, and some tricks are impossible as well)
Just because I have a romance going on in my story, doesn't make it a love story. Just because Gosho has fantasy/scifi element, doesn't make his story a fantasy/scify story.
I'm not sure how to properly edit this  ;D, but in regards to the last bit (unknown drugs turning teens into grade school boys and response), it is true that the Magic Kaitou 'verse and DC coexist together, so maybe magic might be allowed (but then...that just opens up more questions..)

Sorry to take this in a different direction but how much do the Detective Boys (Ayumi, Genta and Mitsuhiko) know? They know that Conan is "different" and they know that he likes Ran and they know that he can change his voice and they've seen him do the 'impersonate older person to solve case' thing...
I'd just like to know is all. :D




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sstimson wrote:
xGinx wrote:

Or how about an unknown drug turning teenagers into Grade School boys??
Do you know something we don't?. Is Heiji about to be given the Drug?

It should be BOY
Let's not catch people by their word if they did a mistake, ok?  ;)
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Kor wrote:
sstimson wrote:
xGinx wrote:

Or how about an unknown drug turning teenagers into Grade School boys??
Do you know something we don't?. Is Heiji about to be given the Drug?

It should be BOY
Let's not catch people by their word if they did a mistake, ok?  ;)
No, it should be Kids

Last time I checked Hairbara was not a BOY.
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sstimson wrote:
Kor wrote:
sstimson wrote:
xGinx wrote:

Or how about an unknown drug turning teenagers into Grade School boys??
Do you know something we don't?. Is Heiji about to be given the Drug?

It should be BOY
Let's not catch people by their word if they did a mistake, ok?  ;)
No, it should be Kids

Last time I checked Hairbara was not a BOY.
Yes, we all know that, yet what xGinx wrote is perfectly understandable as it was. So he wrote something which can be considered a mistake, so what? No need to make a big deal out of it.
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Kor wrote:
sstimson wrote:
Kor wrote:
sstimson wrote:
xGinx wrote:

Or how about an unknown drug turning teenagers into Grade School boys??
Do you know something we don't?. Is Heiji about to be given the Drug?

It should be BOY
Let's not catch people by their word if they did a mistake, ok?  ;)
No, it should be Kids

Last time I checked Hairbara was not a BOY.
Yes, we all know that, yet what xGinx wrote is perfectly understandable as it was. So he wrote something which can be considered a mistake, so what? No need to make a big deal out of it.
Note in my correction I did too. That last post was me correcting me
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Kor makes a good point, though, about Eisuke not being able to be an agent as a teenager.  The B.O can get away with having teens because they work below ground.  They can do whatever the heck they want.  The government, however, can't.  That's also why I think that Sera can't be FBI, CIA, Interpol, whatever-legal-organization-you-choose.
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Tori AL wrote: Sorry to take this in a different direction but how much do the Detective Boys (Ayumi, Genta and Mitsuhiko) know? They know that Conan is "different" and they know that he likes Ran and they know that he can change his voice and they've seen him do the 'impersonate older person to solve case' thing...
I'd just like to know is all. :D
They know a lot. Conan is much less careful about hiding his true abilities around them, he had shown them his deductive skill often. (Even before he recently started to show them others around him as well.)
They know about his tracking glasses, that he can kick criminals unconscious and about his hidden football in the belt, his voice-altering bow-tie and even that he has a tranquilizer in his watch (at least Haibara mentioned it to Mistuhiko).

He is lucky that they just consider him "really, really smart" and don't know that he knows way too much for someone their own age. He should be fortunate that they didn't know Shinichi before he shrunk, because having Conan appear as a new kid in school right after Shinichi disappeared would at least have made them fantasize that he is a shrunken High-School Detective.

So... it isn't really something that needs to be resolved right now. Conan should be able to keep his secret identity from them for a while longer (even if he is careless around them), however it might become a plot in the future.
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Re if Kaitou KID is relevant or not -- let's not forget that MK is generally accepted to be non-canon to the DC world but why did Aoyama-sama decided several crossovers? Since there are magic elements of the MK world (Koizumi Akako being a witch and the immortal powers the Pandora gem was rumored to give) how will this reconcile with the strictly non-fic, purely factual world of DC?
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The only elements of MK that are "crossed over" are the elements that actually appear in the DC manga. For all DC knows, Kid is just some crazy thief who likes attention/the challenge. So: Snake? Who's that? Akako? Who's that?
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