Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 913-917

[MeiTanteixX]

Same here, Kuroda has the associations of being a BO member, I mean come on, former NPA member? The Mysterious coma incident, and a possible connection to the woodpecker organization? (And his age is almost equivalent to pisco, who has worked with the boss for a long time) Sounds fishy to me,... kan-chan on the other hand,... just a simple badass nagano detective with no revealed special connections to anything particular. ...Kuroda for now as well!

And maybe we should learn from over 760 episodes of this show not to judge a book by its cover but sometimes you cannot necessarily help it. I mean someone like unclesporkums avatar being the boss of Gin. Menacing Gin? Shoot myself to overcome the effects of a tranquilizer Gin? Or maybe we are both wrong and we will have someone completely different be revealed as Rum during the 1000th chapter of Conan. But I am hoping that chapter involves Kir being found out as being undercover and AKAI reveals himself.

Agreed, a perfectly fitting climax of this arc, Kir killed in the line of duty by rum, Akai doesn't have to hide anymore from the BO radar and confronts them openly(while still keeping his okiya identity a secret) and that leads to more confrontations with rei and sera, as well as the return of eisuke-niichan! And let's not forget our protaginst Haibara and her awaited confrontation with Akai, and then there's the mystery involving the mystery girl,....oooh, just getting hyped up with all these endless possibilities! :3

[alphajjc]

Same here, Kuroda has the associations of being a BO member, I mean come on, former NPA member? The Mysterious coma incident, and a possible connection to the woodpecker organization? (And his age is almost equivalent to pisco, who has worked with the boss for a long time) Sounds fishy to me,... kan-chan on the other hand,... just a simple badass nagano detective with no revealed special connections to anything particular. ...Kuroda for now as well!

And maybe we should learn from over 760 episodes of this show not to judge a book by its cover but sometimes you cannot necessarily help it. I mean someone like unclesporkums avatar being the boss of Gin. Menacing Gin? Shoot myself to overcome the effects of a tranquilizer Gin? Or maybe we are both wrong and we will have someone completely different be revealed as Rum during the 1000th chapter of Conan. But I am hoping that chapter involves Kir being found out as being undercover and AKAI reveals himself.

Agreed, a perfectly fitting climax of this arc, Kir killed in the line of duty by rum, Akai doesn't have to hide anymore from the BO radar and confronts them openly(while still keeping his okiya identity a secret) and that leads to more confrontations with rei and sera, as well as the return of eisuke-niichan! And let's not forget our protaginst Haibara and her awaited confrontation with Akai, and then there's the mystery involving the mystery girl,....oooh, just getting hyped up with all these endless possibilities! :3

If you realize it seems like its been like ages since we got a proper BO member. I mean with the exception of Chianti and Korn. Kir is undercover for the CIA, Vermouth and Bourbon are both in the Reconnaissance division, so was Irish(yes i know he wasn't canon but I like to mention him). I don't mean in terms of loyalty...I think vermouth and Bourbon are loyal.

But I mean in terms of how it seems like for a while now we have plot where they are wavering with protecting certain "good guys" like Vermouth is doing as a life debt for saving her life, or unknown reasons like Bourbon who is still a mystery(but like I said technically speaking I think they are both still loyal).

It is hard to put into words what I am trying to say but basically I mean like its been a while where we get a member like Tequila and Pisco..Where there is no "catch" they are just a straight up full fledged member. I think and hope Rum would bring it back to that.

What I want to know is what is the significance of this "10 years ago" with Koruda

[AICHAN]

I think vermouth and Bourbon are loyal

You think Bourbon is loyal to the BO?He's a spy just like Akai,so I don't consider him as a BO member...

Seriously I miss Gin,Vodka,and the other real BO members...I want Conan to be really threatened by the BO.
Of course there are also other things I'm waiting for(Sera/Ai/Akai confrontations,the truth about the Akai family...),let's hope Gosho will solve them soon.

For Rum I don't have any idea who he might be...I kinda hope it's a good guy on Conan's side,to balance with all the spies working in the BO.

[unclesporkums]

I agree that I miss all the genuine, threatening agents, but I am SICK and TIRED of all the freaking spies in the Org. Rum most likely better not be a spy, considering he's the boss' 2nd in command. But I did have that unsettling feeling as a consideration. I think Rum if he is Komei, should be what one of the things Chekhov felt Bourbon should've been, a slick, seemingly nice guy who can go into bursts of "crazy psycho face" like Gin.

[k11chi]

If Koumei is RUM then RUM is going to be a team of 2 or more, otherwise that'd be contradictory to the hints we've gotten so far unless there's something Ai misunderstood...

[MeiTanteixX]

If Komei turns out to be rum, without being given at least one clue before the end of this case, then I'd be disappointed in how gosho dealt with the build up...unless real clue, even hints to the smallest scale, comes up, there's no way komei will turn out to be RUM, or as k11chi said, RUM would have too consist of a group of three or something...

[alphajjc]

I agree that I miss all the genuine, threatening agents, but I am SICK and TIRED of all the freaking spies in the Org. Rum most likely better not be a spy, considering he's the boss' 2nd in command. But I did have that unsettling feeling as a consideration. I think Rum if he is Komei, should be what one of the things Chekhov felt Bourbon should've been, a slick, seemingly nice guy who can go into bursts of "crazy psycho face" like Gin.

If Tequila, Calvados, and Pisco did not die right away it would at least be slightly closer to being balanced. Hopefully to make up for the lack of recent loyal BO Gosho adds 2 more unexpected codename members in addition to Rum.

I think it is Koruda by the way and I think Conan will be spending most of the time trying to figure out the connection of what happened 10 years ago and what is the deal with the "coma". I think someone in this thread or maybe another mentioned they believe if Gin was the rational shrewd member who is kind of like Holmes and thinks of all the possibilities before shooting....but how Rum may be the type to shoot first and ask questions later.

I don't think someone like that would be the boss' #2.....That comes across as far too reckless. He is probably as hard as it to imagine, Gin on steroids psychologically and I would not be surprised if he was the one to originally train Gin.

As for Komei, if that ends up being the case it would go against the point we are making. Because all the previous "undercovers" like Kir, Bourbon(allegedly), and Vermouth(not really undercover but isn't 100% committed to BO) all had GOOD TENDANCIES....

Meanwhile you got nothing of that sort from Gin, Vodka, Chianti, Korn, Pisco, Irish(yes I know he is non canon) Tequila,etc.....So if all of us in here agree that it is time for there to be a real and true BO member for the first time in ages...we should all be rooting that it is not someone like Komei because he has shown "good tenancies" in the past.

Vermouth's "Reconnaissance Division" is getting played out lol

PS.

I wonder if Gosho is trying to tell us something with this "Woodpecker organization" and the "Crow organization"(black organization) or its just a "coincidence"

[k11chi]

I think it's done on purpose, but it might not be anything special as far as the main story goes, depends how the case closes and all the connections the characters and the Woodpeckers have between each other.

[aaron_ouji]

Spoiler:

This case is so brutal, the anime might censor it.

[MeiTanteixX]

Spoiler:

This case is so brutal, the anime might censor it.

That's my biggest concern!!!!

[Wakarimashita]

Spoiler:

This case is so brutal, the anime might censor it.

More like 'will'.

[Kleene Onigiri]

Couldn't RUM be like Sera maybe? (if it's only one person).

Sera get's mistaken as male while she's female.
So same could be happening for RUM?
Also, Sera is doing martial arts as is Makoto, but both still are slender from their body type but could be seen as strong if they get into a fight.
And if the person has silver/grey hair like gin, they could be mistaken for an old person.
They could also be old but have taken the APTX


(and Gosho totally did a pun on pirates, rum and a fake eye... XD)

[MeiTanteixX]

Couldn't RUM be like Sera maybe? (if it's only one person).

Sera get's mistaken as male while she's female.
So same could be happening for RUM?
Also, Sera is doing martial arts as is Makoto, but both still are slender from their body type but could be seen as strong if they get into a fight.
And if the person has silver/grey hair like gin, they could be mistaken for an old person.
They could also be old but have taken the APTX


(and Gosho totally did a pun on pirates, rum and a fake eye... XD)

And if we add his troll with kansuke, one LEG!!! xD

[Kleene Onigiri]

Couldn't RUM be like Sera maybe? (if it's only one person).

Sera get's mistaken as male while she's female.
So same could be happening for RUM?
Also, Sera is doing martial arts as is Makoto, but both still are slender from their body type but could be seen as strong if they get into a fight.
And if the person has silver/grey hair like gin, they could be mistaken for an old person.
They could also be old but have taken the APTX


(and Gosho totally did a pun on pirates, rum and a fake eye... XD)

And if we add his troll with kansuke, one LEG!!! xD

Omg XD
So we are looking for a person with a parrot, that will be RUM.

[Incomplete-tantei]

Spoiler:

The way Kuroda acts in this case with the Nagano inspectors makes me think of how Rum could act with BO members.
I know he is the chief of the division and that he has to be strict but, I wonder if Gosho is making this on purpose or it could be that I'm just overthinking it. I'm going to explain what I mean ; when Kuroda was told where Saegusa and Akiyama went, Kuroda asks Yui "why is everyone going off on their own?". This could be seen as how Rum could wonder why there are people in the BO doing things on their own ; Vermouth and Bourbon, or/and former spies ; Ethan, Akai and the others.

Kuroda also suspects Yamato of being the culprit. A similar situation could be seen in the BO where Rum suspects Bourbon/Kir of being a spy. Yamato is a good person accused by Kuroda of being a criminal/bad person and Rum suspects a BO member who is supposedly a bad person of being a spy and thus a "good" person.

I was thinking about this because Vermouth said (at the end of the Scarlet arc) Gin wanted to do something about the "rats" in the BO, so maybe Rum is moving because of this as well. Anyway, these situations made me think about a similar situation that might happen within the BO with Rum (considering it's Kuroda, even if I'm not totally convinced) suspecting some people and wondering why some members are acting on their own. I'm sorry if I'm not clear though.