Anokata theory: The boss may be...

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soul_dreamer wrote:I hope that Yamamura's grandma is not the boss. She just doesn't fit to be the boss in my eyes. If the boss will turn out to be someone related to Shiho or Vermouth, I won't be so surprise, because I'm considering them to be the boss. In order for me to be completely shock about the boss' identity, he or she would have to be either Kogoro, Eri, James Black or someone from the police or even one of detective boys. Basically, someone, I don't consider to be the boss.
yoko okino?
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MeiTanteixX wrote:
soul_dreamer wrote:I hope that Yamamura's grandma is not the boss. She just doesn't fit to be the boss in my eyes. If the boss will turn out to be someone related to Shiho or Vermouth, I won't be so surprise, because I'm considering them to be the boss. In order for me to be completely shock about the boss' identity, he or she would have to be either Kogoro, Eri, James Black or someone from the police or even one of detective boys. Basically, someone, I don't consider to be the boss.
yoko okino?
If she would turn out to be the boss, then I also would be completely surprised as IMO, she was meant to be Vermouth, but Gosho changed his mind after the series got popular.
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MeiTanteixX wrote:
soul_dreamer wrote:I hope that Yamamura's grandma is not the boss. She just doesn't fit to be the boss in my eyes. If the boss will turn out to be someone related to Shiho or Vermouth, I won't be so surprise, because I'm considering them to be the boss. In order for me to be completely shock about the boss' identity, he or she would have to be either Kogoro, Eri, James Black or someone from the police or even one of detective boys. Basically, someone, I don't consider to be the boss.
yoko okino?
I don't think that's likely. For somebody as cautious as the boss is said to be, it'd be very weird for them to invite detectives not affiliated with the Organization to snoop around the apartments of her and her operatives, and anybody stalking the boss would have wound up dead well before they got a chance to suicide in her security-free apartment.
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ErraticSpark wrote:
MeiTanteixX wrote:
soul_dreamer wrote:I hope that Yamamura's grandma is not the boss. She just doesn't fit to be the boss in my eyes. If the boss will turn out to be someone related to Shiho or Vermouth, I won't be so surprise, because I'm considering them to be the boss. In order for me to be completely shock about the boss' identity, he or she would have to be either Kogoro, Eri, James Black or someone from the police or even one of detective boys. Basically, someone, I don't consider to be the boss.
yoko okino?
I don't think that's likely. For somebody as cautious as the boss is said to be, it'd be very weird for them to invite detectives not affiliated with the Organization to snoop around the apartments of her and her operatives, and anybody stalking the boss would have wound up dead well before they got a chance to suicide in her security-free apartment.
don't worry I was never convinced that she is a possible suspect
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Akai Shuichi:''Fear of death is worse than death itself''
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Kor wrote:But Sonoko was on the train too, so I think that's another point against Sonoko's father being the boss.
Unless she's not his daughter, maybe just related to the mother. You guys did all make great points I just can't let go of the idea that whoever the boss is has to have alot of money, that and why the real name would give it away. Though you guys are probably right. I also loved that theory that the boss is shrunk hence the text messages
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Ice9455 wrote:
Kor wrote:But Sonoko was on the train too, so I think that's another point against Sonoko's father being the boss.
Unless she's not his daughter, maybe just related to the mother. You guys did all make great points I just can't let go of the idea that whoever the boss is has to have alot of money, that and why the real name would give it away. Though you guys are probably right. I also loved that theory that the boss is shrunk hence the text messages
yea me too ^.^
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Akai Shuichi:''Fear of death is worse than death itself''
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Shinichi Kudo:''following the smell of blood to arrive upon a crime scene, using every one of your senses to hunt the culprit, then once you've seized hold of him, sinking your sharp teeth(your evidence) until your opponent gives up the ghost, That's a detective''
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Shadow wrote:What we know about Atsushi and Elena is, according to Pisco, they had "a lab incident".
We don't know for sure if they are dead, or rejuvenated, or became "monsters", etc...

After all, Vermouth faked her own death twice, Akai faked his death, and Shin'ichi is sometimes rumoured as dead
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What if the boss is actually Vermouth's son?

She doesn't age after all. Who knows how old she really is. It's a crazy theory, I know, but it just ocurred to me after Bourbon threatened her with telling the others about her being the boss' something
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I think its either the father, the brother or the Son of Vermouth because of the hint "Vermouth´s favourite" and she said the someone should stop the OG and I think she means some someone should stop her father,her brother or maybe son!!
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caniran wrote:I think its either the father, the brother or the Son of Vermouth because of the hint "Vermouth´s favourite" and she said the someone should stop the OG and I think she means some someone should stop her father,her brother or maybe son!!

bourbon said you're the boss's ... vermouth stopped him so its someone close to her beside she doesn't seem to care about the BO so ithink she's here for him/her only
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caniran wrote:I think its either the father, the brother or the Son of Vermouth because of the hint "Vermouth´s favourite" and she said the someone should stop the OG and I think she means some someone should stop her father,her brother or maybe son!!
It doesn't necessarily have to be a biological relation. The boss could also be her husband. He could have kept aging and she did not, and now he wants to create a new drug that turns him younger so he can be with her at the same age again. She is very important to him and is his "favorite". He also lets her do what ever she wants, even if it is contradictory to the organizations goals. If it were her son, I feel like she wouldn't be taking on any orders as she has so far, and if it were her father I think she would have rebelled to the point of switching sides altogether. If it was someone that she was personally emotionally attached to like a husband, it would make more sense to me.

I feel like the person being her husband is more likely and that his company's actual name has something to do with alcohol. Even though a lot of Sharon's back story has holes in it created by the fact that Sharon and Chris are the same person, it is still possible that she was married at some point and that Vineyard may not be her original last name, but one she gained from being married to him.
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jimmy_kud0_tv2 wrote:
caniran wrote:I think its either the father, the brother or the Son of Vermouth because of the hint "Vermouth´s favourite" and she said the someone should stop the OG and I think she means some someone should stop her father,her brother or maybe son!!
It doesn't necessarily have to be a biological relation. The boss could also be her husband. He could have kept aging and she did not, and now he wants to create a new drug that turns him younger so he can be with her at the same age again. She is very important to him and is his "favorite". He also lets her do what ever she wants, even if it is contradictory to the organizations goals. If it were her son, I feel like she wouldn't be taking on any orders as she has so far, and if it were her father I think she would have rebelled to the point of switching sides altogether. If it was someone that she was personally emotionally attached to like a husband, it would make more sense to me.

I feel like the person being her husband is more likely and that his company's actual name has something to do with alcohol. Even though a lot of Sharon's back story has holes in it created by the fact that Sharon and Chris are the same person, it is still possible that she was married at some point and that Vineyard may not be her original last name, but one she gained from being married to him.
Don't forget something wrong with the husband angle though. Remember on certain occasions there has been some sexual innuendo between Vermouth and Gin with Vermouth being the one to initiate often. I know this show has had mature themes at certain points. But are we really gonna end up with talk about open marriages?

With Gosho's style he probably wants us to think its a relationship like that. I know just like you I am saying to myself this is so frustrating trying to think of who the hell could "That Person" be.

PS.

Do you guys think there is any correlation with Vermouth's parents "supposedly"(if she was not outright fabricating stories again) dying in a fire and the same happening with Jodie Starling's parents? Yes I know she did it cause he was in the FBI...but could it also have
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Just read Chapter 111 where Agasa's (great?)uncle, Kurisuke Agasa and his sister, Teiko is mentioned. Agasa says that his uncle:
- was a rich accountant
- died more than 50 years ago
- was a misanthropist and his sister was the only company he would accept
- in his testament, he wanted nothing to be moved in the house for the next 50 years
Teiko died at age 76, a year before the current timeline, and never married.

If the uncle is the boss, it might explain why Haibara would be shocked- because it's Agasa's relative. And if Teiko happens to be Vermouth then it means she's his sister, therefore his favourite?

Also Kurisuke sounds a bit similar to the Japanese word Karasu that means crow ::)
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Nix wrote:Just read Chapter 111 where Agasa's (great?)uncle, Kurisuke Agasa and his sister, Teiko is mentioned. Agasa says that his uncle:
- was a rich accountant
- died more than 50 years ago
- was a misanthropist and his sister was the only company he would accept
- in his testament, he wanted nothing to be moved in the house for the next 50 years
Teiko died at age 76, a year before the current timeline, and never married.

If the uncle is the boss, it might explain why Haibara would be shocked- because it's Agasa's relative. And if Teiko happens to be Vermouth then it means she's his sister, therefore his favourite?

Also Kurisuke sounds a bit similar to the Japanese word Karasu that means crow ::)
Or from romanji,.. Kurisuke=chris ke ...which means!!!! :O jk :P
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Bourbon:''A child's curiosity and a detective's spirit of inquiry do have much in common''
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Vermouth:''A secret makes a woman, woman''
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Mary/Gin:''It's like encountering a demon in the darkness...''
Image
Akai Shuichi:''Fear of death is worse than death itself''
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Shinichi Kudo:''following the smell of blood to arrive upon a crime scene, using every one of your senses to hunt the culprit, then once you've seized hold of him, sinking your sharp teeth(your evidence) until your opponent gives up the ghost, That's a detective''
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