Anokata theory: The boss may be...

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Even if the boss' name is Rentaro Daikoku, it doesn't tell us anything, for me, at least. If the boss is the character, who appear in person, then the boss uses a fake name on daily basis, but if the boss didn't appear in person, but it's related to someone, e.g. Vermouth, then the boss' relative(s) uses a fake name or their last name changed, for example, by getting married.

And please don't tell me that the boss not only didn't appear in person, but has no relation to any character(s). I just hope that the boss is not some random named Rentaro and has no connection to anyone, at all.

If the boss' name is Daikoku, it explains why his subordinates wear black, though.
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I am sure the boss is a random person, simply because he can't be related to Conan without noticing that he is too smart for a child.
It doesn't matter for me as long as his identity is surprising (if he's a child for example).
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i wonder if we can do something with the kanji here , for example i saw conan do it a lot with dying messages or also the case about mouri's friend who's a former policeman trying to catch a thief on the ship

that thief also disguised his name by spelling it backward .

people who speak Japanese could tell us i guess .

i wouldn't be surprised if you discover something close to a character name.


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I never really believed that the boss is someone related to Conan. However, if the boss is stuck in the child's form and is related to someone we know, for example, Vermouth or Shiho, then I will be satisfied. Well, I would still prefer the boss to be someone, who we saw before, but I cannot imagine, Ayumi or Mitsuhiko to be the boss. As a matter of fact, I cannot imagine anyone of characters we know, to be the boss, well maybe besides Atsushi, but there already are points against him to be the boss.
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In my head, no one of the people we know so far can be the boss except these people we haven't got enough info on:
- Atsushi Miyano
- Rum
..... can't think of anyone at the moment. ...
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soul_dreamer wrote:I never really believed that the boss is someone related to Conan. However, if the boss is stuck in the child's form and is related to someone we know, for example, Vermouth or Shiho, then I will be satisfied. Well, I would still prefer the boss to be someone, who we saw before, but I cannot imagine, Ayumi or Mitsuhiko to be the boss. As a matter of fact, I cannot imagine anyone of characters we know, to be the boss, well maybe besides Atsushi, but there already are points against him to be the boss.
Well Conan is the main protagonist of the series, so if the Boss appeared without the readers noticing him, he should have been on the same place as Conan, but if that's the case the boss would necessarily have noticed that Conan is not normal for a child.

I think that the boss appeared as Sharon's husband in volume 35, file 1, we don't see his face, even in the anime. Vermouth said it was Chris disguised as sharon's husband, but we know that chris and sharon are the same person, so that's strange that she imagines this man.

And I think that the boss is Renya Karasuma's child and he is probably american like Vermouth.
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usotsuki wrote:The Org had some sort of hangout at the top of the Daikoku (written with the kanji "big black", 大黒) Building in the Mantendo case. The surname Daikoku appears later in the register in the Mermaids case (again 大黒, which has been also read as Ōguro, another valid reading, cf. the Viz manga), as the name Rentaro Daikoku. I don't think this is a coincidence.
but will gosho make the boss name appear in japanese only??? i think not he would make it translated too wich kentaro wasn't if i remember well
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I've always had a suspicion that the boss is actually Sonoko's dad. I have a few reasons why I think this may be the case. He was introduced fairly early in the series and given that the boss was named/shown early on supports that. Aside from that, given that the BO has a huge amount of members, they have a whole biochemistry research team it would stand to reason whoever is in control must have a large amount of money. He is the correct age assuming the boss has been one steady boss. On top of that we know that the real name of the organization would give it away, what better way to avoid suspicion that to be a very powerful and successful company/presence in Japan.
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Ice9455 wrote:I've always had a suspicion that the boss is actually Sonoko's dad. I have a few reasons why I think this may be the case. He was introduced fairly early in the series and given that the boss was named/shown early on supports that. Aside from that, given that the BO has a huge amount of members, they have a whole biochemistry research team it would stand to reason whoever is in control must have a large amount of money. He is the correct age assuming the boss has been one steady boss. On top of that we know that the real name of the organization would give it away, what better way to avoid suspicion that to be a very powerful and successful company/presence in Japan.
I had that in mind as well when they mentioned that the org name will give the boss name away. But I neglected that idea when I thought how easy it was for someone, who's really careful with everything he does, to be replaced by kaitou kid. Also, there was something else but i forgot
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Mary/Gin:''It's like encountering a demon in the darkness...''
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Akai Shuichi:''Fear of death is worse than death itself''
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Shinichi Kudo:''following the smell of blood to arrive upon a crime scene, using every one of your senses to hunt the culprit, then once you've seized hold of him, sinking your sharp teeth(your evidence) until your opponent gives up the ghost, That's a detective''
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In volume 78, Gin said he's happy if the Suzuki's family is injured. I am sure Gosho did that to end this theory.
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Shinichi Edogawa wrote:In volume 78, Gin said he's happy if the Suzuki's family is injured. I am sure Gosho did that to end this theory.
haha probably, unless he doesn't know his identity. Is it proven that he knows the boss' identity?
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Bourbon:''A child's curiosity and a detective's spirit of inquiry do have much in common''
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Vermouth:''A secret makes a woman, woman''
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Mary/Gin:''It's like encountering a demon in the darkness...''
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Akai Shuichi:''Fear of death is worse than death itself''
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Shinichi Kudo:''following the smell of blood to arrive upon a crime scene, using every one of your senses to hunt the culprit, then once you've seized hold of him, sinking your sharp teeth(your evidence) until your opponent gives up the ghost, That's a detective''
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But Sonoko was on the train too, so I think that's another point against Sonoko's father being the boss.
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alyaboulenein wrote: 2-Maybe Eri, because when Vermouth was speaking to Itagura there was a sound of a cat in the background, Eri has a cat
Eri is not the boss. In one interview with Gosho, he said that Eri is not involved in the BO at all.

Anyway, I think that the boss might be inspector Yamamura's grandma. First of all, Yamamura presses the same buttons as Vermouth did when she was texting her boss. I don't remember which episode it was, but after that Conan yells to him "where did you just call?", and Yamamura says that he called his grandma in the Tottori Province. Second of all, she doesn't appear a lot, in fact, I believe she only appeared in the witch in the fog case. She didn't really have a chance to see Conan's deductions skills. She's one of the most mysterious people so far. Thirdly, she's the right age to be the boss assuming that the boss hasn't changed since the beginning of BO.
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Adel34 wrote:
alyaboulenein wrote: 2-Maybe Eri, because when Vermouth was speaking to Itagura there was a sound of a cat in the background, Eri has a cat
Eri is not the boss. In one interview with Gosho, he said that Eri is not involved in the BO at all.

Anyway, I think that the boss might be inspector Yamamura's grandma. First of all, Yamamura presses the same buttons as Vermouth did when she was texting her boss. I don't remember which episode it was, but after that Conan yells to him "where did you just call?", and Yamamura says that he called his grandma in the Tottori Province. Second of all, she doesn't appear a lot, in fact, I believe she only appeared in the witch in the fog case. She didn't really have a chance to see Conan's deductions skills. She's one of the most mysterious people so far. Thirdly, she's the right age to be the boss assuming that the boss hasn't changed since the beginning of BO.
creepy grandma 0.o
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Bourbon:''A child's curiosity and a detective's spirit of inquiry do have much in common''
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Vermouth:''A secret makes a woman, woman''
Image Image
Mary/Gin:''It's like encountering a demon in the darkness...''
Image
Akai Shuichi:''Fear of death is worse than death itself''
Image
Shinichi Kudo:''following the smell of blood to arrive upon a crime scene, using every one of your senses to hunt the culprit, then once you've seized hold of him, sinking your sharp teeth(your evidence) until your opponent gives up the ghost, That's a detective''
DeviantArt:http://meitanteixx.deviantart.com/
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I hope that Yamamura's grandma is not the boss. She just doesn't fit to be the boss in my eyes. If the boss will turn out to be someone related to Shiho or Vermouth, I won't be so surprise, because I'm considering them to be the boss. In order for me to be completely shock about the boss' identity, he or she would have to be either Kogoro, Eri, James Black or someone from the police or even one of detective boys. Basically, someone, I don't consider to be the boss.
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