Akai (SPOILERS)

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Is Akai really died?

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kentasaiba wrote: ahhhmmm.... thats a fact, no theory^^
Yay ;D. I was always wondering about that. I need to look into it more for other evidence.
Fingerprints in this case are meaningless. Two reasons. Unless Taki. Checked then himself, then they went to a lab.We do not know about that lab, If there are BO working there, and they are watching everything, Then those fingerprints much match for Akai and Kir to be safe. Also the real report that they do not match might be being suppressed somewhere and a fake report saying they do put in its place. You need to look at the events around these events and there are too many reasons to make sure they do match even if they do not. Also it is too convenent that an arm survived getting blasted, yet in camels case being blasted completely destroyed everything. I agree a body switch happened, but I think it happened AFTER the blast by the 'planted' police car on the scene. Again the real body is somewhere being suppressed.

Also I am sure a funeral happened off screen. Questions
1) was it open casket
2) if all this including the funeral was faked, how was it done.
3) and before our red herring showed up, what convinced Jodie that there was no question but Akai was dead.

Would a Wax dummy fool Jodie who knew Akai very well
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The Japanese might have different costums regarding funerals. Also, he was probably cremated.
I'm not quite sure what you're getting at with the first paragraph.
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It is very simple. Until Gosho completely negates everything sstimson postulates (this is impossible, btw), sstimson will keep coming up with more 'what ifs'  :D

The series will end, and no matter what happened, sstimson will insist that Genta and Eri ended up getting married off-panel.
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Abs. wrote: It is very simple. Until Gosho completely negates everything sstimson postulates (this is impossible, btw), sstimson will keep coming up with more 'what ifs'  :D
And I'll keep reminding him that he can not assume his what-ifs are true and base arguments on them without having evidence. It's like the circle of DCTP... (starts humming the intro song from the Lion King...)
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
Abs. wrote: It is very simple. Until Gosho completely negates everything sstimson postulates (this is impossible, btw), sstimson will keep coming up with more 'what ifs'  :D
And I'll keep reminding him that he can not assume his what-ifs are true and base arguments on them without having evidence. It's like the circle of DCTP... (starts humming the intro song from the Lion King...)
Does that mean that every body that died has never had a funeral. If that is true then ok Akai is alive as a zombie

He got tired of just lying around and so scar-Akai is really Akai as a Zombie

Otherwise answer the questions
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I have a strange idea about Akai :)
For starters - who appeared after Shuu vanished?
And what did Shuu say about his ambitions to bring BO down? "Would do anything to bring them down"
Well he could have faked his death in some way (that is the weak point in my idea) How did he escape the shots and the fire without anybody notice...
Well Subaru showed up after Shuu vanished :)
He could be Shuu in a Mask to trap down the Organisation.
Listen carefully to what Subaru says.
"I was looking for a man I saw on the tape of the robbery and I know him for a long time but he wasn't the person I was looking for so I didn't talk to him". Even the burned down house he used to life in is some kind of strange because :
Shuu lost his life in fire and Subarus new life started with a fire.
Let me know what you think :)
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He's a phoenix!  Rise from the ashes!
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Something like that :)
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Are you thinking that Subaru is a reincarnation of Shuu or anything esoteric?
You do have a point about the two related to fire, as there are few cases about arson in DC.
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Not reincarnation.
Subaru is Shuu - at least that is what I think right now.
He could use make-up to fool everyone.
Just think about how good Vermounth is with make up.
And Akai is much smater than her.
Think about it:
Shuu could have escaped (somehow - let's not bother about that now) and the way Gin looked as he saw Akai.
And the way Subaru acted.
It all leads to one thing.
The Akai-san we saw in the Store wasn't the real one. It could be Bourbon or someone else we don't know.
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Kogorou wrote: I have a strange idea about Akai :)
For starters - who appeared after Shuu vanished?
And what did Shuu say about his ambitions to bring BO down? "Would do anything to bring them down"
Well he could have faked his death in some way (that is the weak point in my idea) How did he escape the shots and the fire without anybody notice...
Well Subaru showed up after Shuu vanished :)
He could be Shuu in a Mask to trap down the Organisation.
Listen carefully to what Subaru says.
"I was looking for a man I saw on the tape of the robbery and I know him for a long time but he wasn't the person I was looking for so I didn't talk to him". Even the burned down house he used to life in is some kind of strange because :
Shuu lost his life in fire and Subarus new life started with a fire.
Let me know what you think :)
You should check Kyuu's theories reference thread stickied on this board. You may find the links you are looking for.  ;)
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I'm afraid to inform you these are already well-established theories and have been for quite some time already.
Apart from the connection both have with fire, haven't really heard that one before. And it's a good point at that, I'm almost positive that IS a metaphor for the two of them being connected.
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Does anyone have an episode list of every single appreance Akai has made?
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Detective Prince wrote: Does anyone have an episode list of every single appreance Akai has made?
    *  Episode 230: The Mysterious Passenger (Part 1)
    * Episode 231: The Mysterious Passenger (Part 2)
    * Episode 254: Metropolitan Police Detective Love Story 4 (Part 2)
    * Episode 259: The Man From Chicago (Part 2)
    * Episode 267: The Truth Behind Valentine's (The Reasoning)
    * Episode 269: The Forgotten Memento from the Crime (Part 1)
    * Episode 270: The Forgotten Memento from the Crime (Part 2)
    * Episode 271: Secret Rushed Omission (Part 1)
    * Episode 284: Chinatown Deja Vu in the Rain (Part 1)
    * Episode 285: Chinatown Deja Vu in the Rain (Part 2)
    * Episode 286: Shinichi Kudo's New York Case (The Case)
    * Episode 288: Shinichi Kudo's New York Case (The Resolution)
    * Episode 308: The Dark Footprint (Part 2)
    * Episode 309: Contact with the Black Organization (The Negotiation)
    * Episode 311: Contact with the Black Organization (The Desperation)
    * Episode 336: Secret of the Touto Film Making Centre (Part 2)
    * Episode 338: Four Porsches (Part 1)
    * Episode 339: Four Porsches (Part 2)
    * Episode 345: Head-to-Head Match With the Black Organization; Two Mysteries of the Night of the Full Moon (2.5 Hour Special)
    * Episode 425: Black Impact! The Moment the Black Organization Reaches Out! (2.5 Hour Special)
    * Episode 462: The Shadow of the Black Organization (The Young Witness)
    * Episode 492: Clash of Red and Black! Blood Relative
    * Episode 495: Clash of Red and Black! Coma
    * Episode 496: Clash of Red and Black! Invasion
    * Episode 497: Clash of Red and Black! Awakening
    * Episode 498: Clash of Red and Black! Disturbance
    * Episode 499: Clash of Red and Black! Camouflage
    * Episode 500: Clash of Red and Black! Testament
    * Episode 501: Clash of Red and Black! Suspicion
    * Episode 502: Clash of Red and Black! Innocence
    * Episode 503: Clash of Red and Black! Ready for Death
    * Episode 504: Clash of Red and Black! Death on Duty
    * Episode 507: The Blind Spot in the Karaoke Box (Part 1)
    * Episode 508: The Blind Spot in the Karaoke Box (Part 2)


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Akai appeared in a Flashback in episode 563 too.

But i dont think he was in 507-508.

(And probably in more if he is really ********)
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