Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 818-824 "Mystery Tr

[Conan5]

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You get the movie 10 syndrome. Too many characters makes each of them having an important role impossible.

Thanks Wakari-san. ^^

Spoiler: What a relief

I was kind of sceptical about the idea of Kid's involvement with the case. But based on translations, I am damn glad that he wouldn't be on this case.
As much as I like the guy, I don't want him to mess up with an important arc such as this one.

[believer08]

Spoiler:

You get the movie 10 syndrome. Too many characters makes each of them having an important role impossible.

Thanks Wakari-san. ^^

Spoiler: What a relief

I was kind of sceptical about the idea of Kid's involvement with the case. But based on translations, I am damn glad that he wouldn't be on this case.
As much as I like the guy, I don't want him to mess up with an important arc such as this one.

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I think Gosho'll not involve KID on this one. It's more like a Hint that he'll be present in the future. On the other hand, if KID show up right now, this case will be a complete mess.

[Conan 48:69]

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There's no way Gin won't pursuit Sherry after he heard the possibility that Sherry may go for riding a train, like back to File 800, Gin heard Vodka saw Akai on TV, Vodka thinks it is just a resemblance, but Gin didn't think so and itched to kill him again.

Sera holding a card on page 15, it could not be the same letter Conan received or else she will go to solve a case with Conan. Maybe a photo like Akai's photo or siblings Sera and Akai took it together while they are children.

This series gonna be the beginning of the end of Bourbon's speculation.

[pat kelly]

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Someone is definitely disguised as Kogoro. This has been Kid's MO, but it is possible that it could be bourbon as well (disguise assisted by vermouth). Kogoro conveniently missing when Ran was saying he was just there? I don't think Gosho will put something like that in such an important chapter and leave it as nothing. Notice how Kogoro is licking his hand when he first appeared and touching his moustache - I don't think that was something that he ever did before. Also, he is conveniently missing when conan opened the door to 8A - sure, it is possible that he just wanted to go out and look at other parts of the train while her daughter hangs out with her friends, but I find that too coincidental - he is gone when the killer and/or scar akai is on the move?

[ShinRan4ver]

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Someone is definitely disguised as Kogoro. This has been Kid's MO, but it is possible that it could be bourbon as well (disguise assisted by vermouth). Kogoro conveniently missing when Ran was saying he was just there? I don't think Gosho will put something like that in such an important chapter and leave it as nothing. Notice how Kogoro is licking his hand when he first appeared and touching his moustache - I don't think that was something that he ever did before. Also, he is conveniently missing when conan opened the door to 8A - sure, it is possible that he just wanted to go out and look at other parts of the train while her daughter hangs out with her friends, but I find that too coincidental - he is gone when the killer and/or scar akai is on the move?

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Now why would KID be on the train ONE WHOLE MONTH before Jirokichi's intended date to use the train as bait, not to mention we don't even see Nakamori and Jirokichi on the train?? You KID crazy people needs to calm down and realize he have nothing to do with plot since Gosho said the MK Organization and DC Organization are completely different

[aly_angelflight]

Spoiler:

Someone is definitely disguised as Kogoro. This has been Kid's MO, but it is possible that it could be bourbon as well (disguise assisted by vermouth). Kogoro conveniently missing when Ran was saying he was just there? I don't think Gosho will put something like that in such an important chapter and leave it as nothing. Notice how Kogoro is licking his hand when he first appeared and touching his moustache - I don't think that was something that he ever did before. Also, he is conveniently missing when conan opened the door to 8A - sure, it is possible that he just wanted to go out and look at other parts of the train while her daughter hangs out with her friends, but I find that too coincidental - he is gone when the killer and/or scar akai is on the move?

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Now why would KID be on the train ONE WHOLE MONTH before Jirokichi's intended date to use the train as bait, not to mention we don't even see Nakamori and Jirokichi on the train?? You KID crazy people needs to calm down and realize he have nothing to do with plot since Gosho said the MK Organization and DC Organization are completely different

You could've put it less rudely, you know.

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

If anyone is interested in the case aspects, this might be useful
http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki ... atest_case

[User 4869]

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I also don't think that Kogoro is real Kogoro. Or at least must be something wrong about him. His information box (age) seem weird for a starter (Why we need it now in such a case. And his art seem off).

And to be fair, pat kelly did not say he must be Kid. Just one possibility (which I myself did not agree anyway.)

Crack:
Since Okiya is missing. Maybe Yukiko help him got on the train as Kogoro LoL.

[skyechan]

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I also don't think that Kogoro is real Kogoro. Or at least must be something wrong about him. His information box (age) seem weird for a starter (Why we need it now in such a case. And his art seem off).

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While it is curious they're bothering to give Kogoro an information box, Kogoro's art may seem off because he seems to have purposely styled his mustache this time after Hercule Poirot's mustache. I guess he figured he'd go all out with the "Murder on the Orient Express" theme.

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Now why would KID be on the train ONE WHOLE MONTH before Jirokichi's intended date to use the train as bait, not to mention we don't even see Nakamori and Jirokichi on the train?? You KID crazy people needs to calm down and realize he have nothing to do with plot since Gosho said the MK Organization and DC Organization are completely different

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In regards to this, while I agree it's highly unlikely for Kid to show up early, it is quite possible Kid would be on the train a whole month in advance: he may be keeping tabs somehow on Jirokichi's plans (for whatever reason) and is essentially planning the heist and getting the lowdown on how the train is set up. It's unlikely, but not out of the realms of possibility.

[Midi]

Thank you lol but I can't see the images  my thoughts are built on the images of spoilers in the thread of the previous case

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A couple of things are kind of disturbing:

The pill's effect hardly lasted, I hope some light will be shed on that, or to say how long it's been.

Kid!! I have nothing against him, but to be in a middle of plot a related case and a murder is a bit too much in my opinion to form a good story, and execute all the stories perfectly. 

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Also,

Although Heiji did not make an appearance yet this year, I hope he does not appear here or like GinRei said, it will be another movie 10 !

This reminds me, there is a good chance though to see him after this series ( if he does not appear in this one  ), since Heiji appeared many times after certain plot developments and discuss them with Conan.

May I not agree with you? because

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I'd be in heaven if all of them appeared. Gosho may have said a lot of things... but maybe he lied? Nothing's stopping him from saying half-truths in interviews or later changing his mind. I'd actually find it more interesting that way; no interview of him is a Word of God, and EVERYTHING can happen in the story. That would suck me into this quite a lot more. Of course with KID's appearance set a month away, it's probably next case file bait, but one hopes... after all, KID has previously been known to set up his act waaay in advance. He's nothing if not thorough.

EDIT:

I still

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can't shake off the feeling that Shinichi's parents are on board for this one. Somehow, I've got the niggling feeling that Yuusaku's taken Kogoro's place with Latex Magic.

And I'm sure I know the identity of the new scar-Akai! It's

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Michael Jackson! (AW!)

[User 4869]

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I also don't think that Kogoro is real Kogoro. Or at least must be something wrong about him. His information box (age) seem weird for a starter (Why we need it now in such a case. And his art seem off).

Spoiler:

While it is curious they're bothering to give Kogoro an information box, Kogoro's art may seem off because he seems to have purposely styled his mustache this time after Hercule Poirot's mustache. I guess he figured he'd go all out with the "Murder on the Orient Express" theme.

[/spoiler]

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Then I take back what I said. His difference art has been explain and his information box probably for telling his room number

[AICHAN]

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I'm worried about Okiya...Where is he?
Ai will probably be in big trouble if the BO are planning to catch Sherry when the train reaches it's destination...he's supposed to be protect herXDXDXD

[Sani]

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Now why would KID be on the train ONE WHOLE MONTH before Jirokichi's intended date to use the train as bait, not to mention we don't even see Nakamori and Jirokichi on the train?? You KID crazy people needs to calm down and realize he have nothing to do with plot since Gosho said the MK Organization and DC Organization are completely different

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Whilst it is true, that both organizations are different and KID himself might not have a connection to the plot, Sonoko mentioning him actually might have! Jirokichi is usually very thorough when choosing places for Kid-encounters. There might be something about the train that makes it special; apart from the obvious fact that it's moving. I doubt that there have already been traps installed, but maybe a part of its unique structure will be important to the case and maybe that's why Gosho has KID mentioned.

I agree with Sonoci, that that man is probably out cold and that it wasn't just a fake-mystery, and I don't think KID would ever hold a heist at a place where a murder occurred 1 month earlier. Neither would Jirokichi (bad publicity), so if we are going to have a KID heist in the future, it probably won't have a direct connection to the train. To be on board KID would have to know about Jirokichi's plans and so far it seems to have been internal information of the Suzuki family.

[ShinRan4ver]

Spoiler:

Someone is definitely disguised as Kogoro. This has been Kid's MO, but it is possible that it could be bourbon as well (disguise assisted by vermouth). Kogoro conveniently missing when Ran was saying he was just there? I don't think Gosho will put something like that in such an important chapter and leave it as nothing. Notice how Kogoro is licking his hand when he first appeared and touching his moustache - I don't think that was something that he ever did before. Also, he is conveniently missing when conan opened the door to 8A - sure, it is possible that he just wanted to go out and look at other parts of the train while her daughter hangs out with her friends, but I find that too coincidental - he is gone when the killer and/or scar akai is on the move?

Spoiler:

Now why would KID be on the train ONE WHOLE MONTH before Jirokichi's intended date to use the train as bait, not to mention we don't even see Nakamori and Jirokichi on the train?? You KID crazy people needs to calm down and realize he have nothing to do with plot since Gosho said the MK Organization and DC Organization are completely different.

You could've put it less rudely, you know.

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My apologies for being rude, the Ending of Movie 14 probably had some influence with my attitude toward KID. My point being the Jirokichi Plan is probably internal family secret and KID need to 24/7 wiretap Jirokichi to know it that far in advance, this isn't the movies where KID have his fleet of wiretap Pigeons flying around. I have nothing against KID being mentioned in the story, just think physical appearance/KID being imposter Kogoro in this case would be somewhat far fetched.

[Jecka]

Spoiler:

I think Gosho'll not involve KID on this one. It's more like a Hint that he'll be present in the future. On the other hand, if KID show up right now, this case will be a complete mess.

Spoiler:

I have to agree with believer08. It has to be a hint to his return in a future chapter, not this one.