Discussion thread: Detective Conan 981-983

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Translation of File 981 text spoilers

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File 981: Killing time at Café Poirot

Ran gets a photo sent to her cellphone which depicts a beautiful illumination. Kazuha sends it, she's coming with Heiji to go see that illumination that's in Ginza and they'll drop by the detective agency.

Ran argues that she hasn't finished cooking Kogoro's dinner so Kazuha agrees to help her out while Conan and Heiji go downstairs to the Poirot so as to kill time at Kazuha's suggerence.

Heiji then asks Conan is he's got nothing to ask and Conan begrudgingly replies that he knows what Heiji wants to say.

The girls get engrossed in their chit-chat and forget to add the soup to the meat and potaoes dish so they decide to cook curry instead

Meanwhile, Conan asks Heiji if he's sure that today's a good day to talk about what Heiji wants to say because it's Friday the 13th.

Amuro shows up and says that they're in Japan and, in terms of probabilities, there are a couple of bad days per year. He encourages Heiji to bring out whatever he wants to say but

But a mysterious customer sitting next to them butts into their conversation and enumerates some examples of disgraces that've happened in Friday the 13th. He also days that today is "Butsumetsu" or the day of Buddha's death.

Conan and the others are taken aback by the sudden apperance of this man the presence of which they didn't catch up.

Shortly afterwards, a college student part of a theater club who'd booked a table in the café shows up. He asks if his pals have already come. When he gets told they aren't here yet he says he doesn't feel well and heads to the toilet. A few minutes later, the student's girlfriend and her chilhood friend (a guy) show up. And after another few minutes a friend of the student also comes. The relationships between the guys and the woman of the group doesn't seem to be too friendly, though.

This group had built a theather stage using the café Poirot as base a year ago to enact a play. Amuro wasn't around the previous year so Azusa explains that she took part into the acting.

The student's friend says he wants to complete a birthday video for the girlfriend so the childhood friend tries to check it out with a note PC yet the PC doesn't turn on. He asks Azusa to lend him an extension power strip. He plugs it into the electrical outlet but it triggers a short-circuit and a blackout ensues.

Amuro asks Azura to pull up the breakers but the childhood friend suddenly groans: blood splashes fly around and stain Conan's and Heiji's faces. The student who was in the toilet comes out asking what this fuss is about they find that the girlfriend's childhood friend has a blade stabbed into him from behind and is dead.

Side-note: "A tragedy has happened at Café Poirot... The detectives take on the case!!"
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What I just realized by looking at the spoiler pictures... The ????-guy is right-handed (holding the cafe in his right hand). So it actually cannot be Shuuichi since he is left-handed.

Also: We don't get much information about him in the text spoilers above... unfortunate. I hope we get some more information about him the next file (982)!
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On the other hand, his smartphone is on his left side, so he would probably use his left hand to do something with it. People usually use their dominant hand to use their smartphones, don't they? At least both of these activities (holding a tea cup and handling a smartphone) is something that can be done relatively comfortably with your non-dominant hand.
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Hm ye you may be right, but I for example sometimes put my Phone on the weaker side too and end up picking it up with the weak hand but giving it into the dominant hand. Also what i see is his scarf. He swang it over his left shoulder, so he used his right hand, right? If you think about it.

Edit: Also in the pictures before, both Ran and Heiji use their right hand to use their smartphone.
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I'm not much of a scarf person myself, but iirc it depends on whether you wrap it clockwise or counter-clockwise rather than the hand one uses.

Also, if I'm not mistaken Ran is right-handed; Heiji was never stated afaik.
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we can't say that knowing too much about european history is strange , shinichi is japanese and just 18 years old and I think he knew all of that too .. gosho likes his smart characters to be knowledgeable so it can't be taken as a hint for anything other than that man is smart

That man can't be akai for more than one reason , if he were those eyes wouldn't have been shown it's gosho's way to imply that be careful this guy is important ,and even when shuu is subaru his eyes isn't shown as eyes can't be disguised the characters who disguise in other characters wear a mask which is not the case in subaru who still keeps his own face also there is no need for akai to do so he can come to poiret as subaru
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ATEM wrote:
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we can't say that knowing too much about european history is strange , shinichi is japanese and just 18 years old and I think he knew all of that too .. gosho likes his smart characters to be knowledgeable so it can't be taken as a hint for anything other than that man is smart

That man can't be akai for more than one reason , if he were those eyes wouldn't have been shown it's gosho's way to imply that be careful this guy is important ,and even when shuu is subaru his eyes isn't shown as eyes can't be disguised the characters who disguise in other characters wear a mask which is not the case in subaru who still keeps his own face also there is no need for akai to do so he can come to poiret as subaru
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Even i think that akai had no reason to come as akai he can come as subaru...and friday the 13th these things are so much of a coincidence...i really am getting excited but lets wait for this chapter to get over without jumping to any conclusions :)
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Now if you look at the exact picture, that guy is listening songs/news or any audio using headphones. Now the interesting part is that he is using one earpiece, that means he was eavesdropping on their chat and hence he gave his verdict on friday the 13th.
Also, if it ain't papa Akai. there are 2 people that come tho my mind.
1. Ethan Hondou , I know he is dead but those hair pattern made me think that way.(I am wrong, but just placed my thought)
2. Vermouth - AGAIN IN DISGUISE, why ? Maybe to check whether or not Amuro is a NOC or not. Any other reason as well.

And apart from it my thought on the guy being akai papa still remain. *chuck* Heard firstly from me ;D
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Tantei San wrote:
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Now if you look at the exact picture, that guy is listening songs/news or any audio using headphones. Now the interesting part is that he is using one earpiece, that means he was eavesdropping on their chat and hence he gave his verdict on friday the 13th.
Also, if it ain't papa Akai. there are 2 people that come tho my mind.
1. Ethan Hondou , I know he is dead but those hair pattern made me think that way.(I am wrong, but just placed my thought)
2. Vermouth - AGAIN IN DISGUISE, why ? Maybe to check whether or not Amuro is a NOC or not. Any other reason as well.

And apart from it my thought on the guy being akai papa still remain. *chuck* Heard firstly from me ;D
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I think Vermouth doesn't care Bourbon is a NOC or not, not to mention Bourbon actually blackmail Vermouth because Bourbon knows her secret. In scarlet epilogue, he threatened that if she dare to do anything with him, her secret will leak. Besides, in chap 954-957, I feel that Vermouth trust Bourbon well enough.
Still too early to conclude anything from this file but the culprit is sure either so stupid or so arrogant that he dare to murder someone next to freaking Mouri Detective agency. I will never choose a place that have a high probability that Mouri will involve to kill someone.
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eros1607 wrote:
Tantei San wrote:
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Now if you look at the exact picture, that guy is listening songs/news or any audio using headphones. Now the interesting part is that he is using one earpiece, that means he was eavesdropping on their chat and hence he gave his verdict on friday the 13th.
Also, if it ain't papa Akai. there are 2 people that come tho my mind.
1. Ethan Hondou , I know he is dead but those hair pattern made me think that way.(I am wrong, but just placed my thought)
2. Vermouth - AGAIN IN DISGUISE, why ? Maybe to check whether or not Amuro is a NOC or not. Any other reason as well.

And apart from it my thought on the guy being akai papa still remain. *chuck* Heard firstly from me ;D
Spoiler:
I think Vermouth doesn't care Bourbon is a NOC or not, not to mention Bourbon actually blackmail Vermouth because Bourbon knows her secret. In scarlet epilogue, he threatened that if she dare to do anything with him, her secret will leak. Besides, in chap 954-957, I feel that Vermouth trust Bourbon well enough.
Still too early to conclude anything from this file but the culprit is sure either so stupid or so arrogant that he dare to murder someone next to freaking Mouri Detective agency. I will never choose a place that have a high probability that Mouri will involve to kill someone.
More than that this arc like many previous one is all about how the guy did it i.e. one in the bathroom and some core character story will be progressed.
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My initial association upon seeing ????:

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That is not to say that the nameless character actually is the canonized Yuuya Kazami.

But my first impression is very similar. I have the feeling that he is an ambitious agent or a determined detective conducting a plot-related investigation rather than Tsutomu Akai, someone from the Haneda family or even Rum.

Judging from the panels, I doubt that Bourbon knows him. Perhaps his familiarity with European history indicates that he will be the one through who Aoyama officially introduces the MI6?

At any rate, this case seems unexpectedly promising.
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Valentin wrote:
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My initial association upon seeing ????:

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That is not to say that the nameless character actually is the canonized Yuuya Kazami.

But my first impression is very similar. I have the feeling that he is an ambitious agent or a determined detective conducting a plot-related investigation rather than Tsutomu Akai, someone from the Haneda family or even Rum.

Judging from the panels, I doubt that Bourbon knows him. Perhaps his familiarity with European history indicates that he will be the one through who Aoyama officially introduces the MI6?

At any rate, this case seems unexpectedly promising.
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More than that, I even hope that guy has relationship with Elena Miyano although the chance is pretty slim.
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or maybe he is the real rum in disguise ;D
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If the victim was stabbed in the back and he is shown facing Heiji and Conan, how did blood splatter onto their faces and table without getting on anything else when the victim was supposedly facing them? The knife also ended up in a weird spot based on how the victim appeared to be sitting and the way he fell.

I feel like more time elapsed in the black out then what we are shown and the the victim must have stood up and been stabbed in the back by the woman , while the victim was facing the fat man, using some kind of mechanism rather than stabbing directly so as to avoid blood on her clothes. The only people standing up when the lights came on were Azusa, Amuro, and the female suspect. However... I'm betting that the knife was actually transported there by the guy in the bathroom, who left his bag on the bench. The knife looks a little bit too big to fit in the purse that the woman has.

The woman and the victim came in together right? I think its possible that she may have turned down the brightness of his screen before they arrived so that he would think that it was dead and try to plug it in. She would then just have to find a way to sabotage the cord so that it overloads and trips the breaker. Since the screen is technically still lit, wouldn't it give just enough light to see in the pitch blackness to allow you to get your bearings if you already knew the exact layout of the building?

Her scarf just kind of disappears after she takes it off, wonder where it went?
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jimmy_kud0_tv2 wrote:
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However... I'm betting that the knife was actually transported there by the guy in the bathroom, who left his bag on the bench. The knife looks a little bit too big to fit in the purse that the woman has.
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If it is his, then why'd he bring it?
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