What's the identity of Rum?

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Re: What's the identity of Rum?

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DCUniverseAficionado wrote: Hopefully a personal tie to the BO will eventually be revealed (family, etc.), and that will get him competent and involved.
It's like we are digging our own grave, but that very slight chance of finding Gold is still tempting...
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MeiTanteixX wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote: Hopefully a personal tie to the BO will eventually be revealed (family, etc.), and that will get him competent and involved.
It's like we are digging our own grave, but that very slight chance of finding Gold is still tempting...
???

Could you explain, because the reference went right over my head. :-[ (Well, it does remind me of a scene from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, but I don't think that's what you were referring to. :D )
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DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
MeiTanteixX wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote: Hopefully a personal tie to the BO will eventually be revealed (family, etc.), and that will get him competent and involved.
It's like we are digging our own grave, but that very slight chance of finding Gold is still tempting...
???

Could you explain, because the reference went right over my head. :-[ (Well, it does remind me of a scene from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, but I don't think that's what you were referring to. :D )
Hahaha, I mean that we are just setting ourselves up for disappointment, in terms of our expectations for Kogoro, but that slight possibility of him getting an unique development is still tempting to hope for...
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Vermouth:''A secret makes a woman, woman''
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Mary/Gin:''It's like encountering a demon in the darkness...''
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Akai Shuichi:''Fear of death is worse than death itself''
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Shinichi Kudo:''following the smell of blood to arrive upon a crime scene, using every one of your senses to hunt the culprit, then once you've seized hold of him, sinking your sharp teeth(your evidence) until your opponent gives up the ghost, That's a detective''
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MeiTanteixX wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
MeiTanteixX wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote: Hopefully a personal tie to the BO will eventually be revealed (family, etc.), and that will get him competent and involved.
It's like we are digging our own grave, but that very slight chance of finding Gold is still tempting...
???

Could you explain, because the reference went right over my head. :-[ (Well, it does remind me of a scene from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, but I don't think that's what you were referring to. :D )
Hahaha, I mean that we are just setting ourselves up for disappointment, in terms of our expectations for Kogoro, but that slight possibility of him getting an unique development is still tempting to hope for...
Not giving him something to do for at least the finale doesn't make sense to me, so I'll say he'll at least give some antagonist a judo throw in the last few cases of the series.
“Life is infinitely stranger than anything which the mind of man could invent. We would not dare to conceive the things which are really mere commonplaces of existence. If we could fly out of that window hand in hand, hover over this great city, gently remove the roofs, and and peep in at the queer things which are going on, the strange coincidences, the plannings, the cross-purposes, the wonderful chains of events, working through generations, and leading to the most outre results, it would make all fiction with its conventionalities and foreseen conclusions most stale and unprofitable.”
“Education never ends... it is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last.”
― Arthur Conan Doyle, The Complete Adventures of Sherlock Holmes and His Last Bow
"I have decided to stick to love... hate is too great a burden to bear."
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DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
MeiTanteixX wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
MeiTanteixX wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote: Hopefully a personal tie to the BO will eventually be revealed (family, etc.), and that will get him competent and involved.
It's like we are digging our own grave, but that very slight chance of finding Gold is still tempting...
???

Could you explain, because the reference went right over my head. :-[ (Well, it does remind me of a scene from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, but I don't think that's what you were referring to. :D )
Hahaha, I mean that we are just setting ourselves up for disappointment, in terms of our expectations for Kogoro, but that slight possibility of him getting an unique development is still tempting to hope for...
Not giving him something to do for at least the finale doesn't make sense to me, so I'll say he'll at least give some antagonist a judo throw in the last few cases of the series.
he will definitely have a role towards the end, but as far as his connection to the overall plot is concerned, that's all up to Gosho...
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Bourbon:''A child's curiosity and a detective's spirit of inquiry do have much in common''
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Vermouth:''A secret makes a woman, woman''
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Mary/Gin:''It's like encountering a demon in the darkness...''
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Akai Shuichi:''Fear of death is worse than death itself''
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Shinichi Kudo:''following the smell of blood to arrive upon a crime scene, using every one of your senses to hunt the culprit, then once you've seized hold of him, sinking your sharp teeth(your evidence) until your opponent gives up the ghost, That's a detective''
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Re: What's the identity of Rum?

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I'm surprised by the optimism in the forum, DC is going to have a finale?
For me the series is never going to end, I read it like a soap-opera.
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Shinichi Edogawa wrote:I'm surprised by the optimism in the forum, DC is going to have a finale?
For me the series is never going to end, I read it like a soap-opera.
Same.
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The manga will definitely end, but as far as how far they will take the anime, that's all up to the anime staff...
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Bourbon:''A child's curiosity and a detective's spirit of inquiry do have much in common''
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Vermouth:''A secret makes a woman, woman''
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Mary/Gin:''It's like encountering a demon in the darkness...''
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Akai Shuichi:''Fear of death is worse than death itself''
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Shinichi Kudo:''following the smell of blood to arrive upon a crime scene, using every one of your senses to hunt the culprit, then once you've seized hold of him, sinking your sharp teeth(your evidence) until your opponent gives up the ghost, That's a detective''
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Re: What's the identity of Rum?

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Shinichi Edogawa wrote:I'm surprised by the optimism in the forum
The optimistic posts you've seen were made by the same 3 people, so I don't think it's much of a display of optimism.

There will always be people who are optimistic about the series. Some of them will probably lose this optimism along the way (not directed at any of the posters here, just a general statement).

We have a bunch of "think pieces" threads about the ending of DC throughout the forum, most of which insist it might be "soon-ish" because of this development, and this couple, and this plot point reappearing, and that Gosho interview, etc. The end of DC can be soon-ish for years basically. Sure, it might end after the Rum stuff, but the Rum stuff may take a decade to end. Or sure, you can go on about how it makes sense the Rum stuff will be the second to last stuff and then the ending starts, but Gosho can always bring more stuff even if it doesn't make any narrative sense, and then people can insist once more how the next arc will be the one before last, and then that the next next arc will be the one before last, and he can wrap it up with one couple but then introduce another romance thing of Recurring Unimportant Character #34.

If you do want to continue this DC ending discussion, I suggest to open a new thread about it. This is supposed to be a thread about Rum.
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Maybe it's true many fans are waiting for the end since the end of vermouth arc and nothing is happening just the end of an arc brings the start of another much longer one but the only difference now from my point of view is that gosho started to get old drawing and releasing every week is really tiring and he was seriously ill and couldn't draw for many months already so I think that he thought about ending conan at that time .. I think he considered the probability of him getting ill again or become too tired to fit the deadlines and how it can be a waste that a project like conan become endless or has a weak ending and of coarse he considered having finally a rest ... so maybe this arc is going to be the one before the final for real this time ...
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Shinichi Edogawa wrote:I'm surprised by the optimism in the forum, DC is going to have a finale?
For me the series is never going to end, I read it like a soap-opera.
As Kor says above, it's only a handful of people, myself included, who are optimistic/have a positive opinion of the current manga. We're a minority here, though that isn't necessarily true at other DC forums besides this one.

Nothing lasts forever. DC will end. The question is if it's by Gosho's hand or someone else's.

Anyways, I wonder if Rum's cameo appearance in M20 will be just that, a cameo, or if the movie will actually reveal something that could be a hint regarding his identity. Even if it does though, it'll probably be something pointed to in the manga already, kind of how M18 basically confirmed Okiya's identity the same time it was formally revealed in the manga.
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Kudo Shinchi wrote:Anyways, I wonder if Rum's cameo appearance in M20 will be just that, a cameo, or if the movie will actually reveal something that could be a hint regarding his identity. Even if it does though, it'll probably be something pointed to in the manga already, kind of how M18 basically confirmed Okiya's identity the same time it was formally revealed in the manga.
In six weeks, the movie will come out—the spoilers for the manga file that will be released on the coming Monday (when the Chinese scanlation team will post it) will come out at the same time. This file will be either File 955, 956 or 957 (my guess is that Gosho will take a maximum of two breaks between now and then). If the current case is just 3 Files, then the following case should be 2 Files in when the movie comes out (or 3 or 4, if Gosho takes one break or no breaks). We'll have a better sense of what the movie may hint, by the time the movie releases (as in comparison to the file that releases at the same time as the movie being the case's first file).
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Ok, lets start.
Whats the common sense in here:

Based on the manga...

1) ... does Kuroda actually has 2 eyeballs or only one ?
2) ... does Conan actually take Ais comment about the artificial eye as a fact or does he doubt it in some way?

mfg
[ ] Yonehara = Rum
[ ] Kuroda = Amuros Boss
[x] MG = Mrs. Akai
[x] Haneda = Brother Akai
[ ] Rumi = Asaka
[ ] Wakita = Bo-Member Whiskey (aka the RAT)
[ ] Iori = just a butler
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dccd wrote:Ok, lets start.
Whats the common sense in here:

Based on the manga...

1) ... does Kuroda actually has 2 eyeballs or only one ?
2) ... does Conan actually take Ais comment about the artificial eye as a fact or does he doubt it in some way?

mfg
I actually decided to go panel hunt, it actually seems that his left eye (from his point of view) might be sealed shut
If it is sealed shut, he would have no need for an actual false eye.
Also I want to point out that unlike the character from the Magic Kaitou anime who has a false eye
Kuroda's glasses remained shaded over in the anime.... also they became square glass frames for some reason...
(it seems that the 812 Raw is now online, so I'm going to go pick through the episodes and see what the Anime staff decided to do)

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Kudo Shinchi wrote: Anyways, I wonder if Rum's cameo appearance in M20 will be just that, a cameo, or if the movie will actually reveal something that could be a hint regarding his identity. Even if it does though, it'll probably be something pointed to in the manga already, kind of how M18 basically confirmed Okiya's identity the same time it was formally revealed in the manga.
I really hope that movie 20 doesn't reveal anything that isn't clear in the manga. DC is manga serie and manga is canon. And that's why it should be possible to follow only manga and still know everything important to plot
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