Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 818-824 "Mystery Tr

[mihai]

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I believe that Vermouth is SA but the woman with Okiya is Yukiko. If Conan planned with Akai all along to use disguises, his mom would be the person to go to. Also, how would Fusae have met Conan to send him a message (which is what I'm assuming the woman is doing with her cell phone)? They haven't met (if they did, I think Conan woulda helped out Agasa with his love problems)

Even if Fusae somehow knew Conan's number, why would he trust it?

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we still don't know if that woman was sending a message to Conan. Another hing i realized is that Amuro and SA know eachother, otherwise there would be a reaction as SA passed when Amuro talked to Ran. Because SA was busy giving Haibara the "I found you, Sherry" stare and Amuro was talking to Ran as if nobody was passing by or he knew exactly who it was(*cough* Vermouth *cough*).
as for the woman with Okiya, if she is Fusae, she better have a good reason being there. Otherwise, I would like if it's Yukiko

[sonoci]

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we still don't know if that woman was sending a message to Conan. ...

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...Also, how would Fusae have met Conan to send him a message (which is what I'm assuming the woman is doing with her cell phone)? ...

:x

[selby]

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It seem like Amuro and Okiya both not from BO, cause Haibara don't have any reaction when Amuro show up. What i'm most curious right now is "who the hell is Scar Akai?" If Scar Akai is the real Akai (in chapter 819 when Haibara saw Scar Akai she immediately think of Dai) so why he give her that kind of look? If Scar Akai is Vermouth in disguised Haibara would have a stronger reaction because Haibara can tell Vermouth's aura. But if Vermouth didn't disguised in Scar Akai, Amuro, Sera, Okiya so where is she? This just pop in my head but maybe she disguised in Mouri. Haibara haven't met Mouri in the train.
If the woman with Okiya sending warning message to Conan then she maybe Yukiko but the conversation between Gin and Vodka mentioned that Vermouth sent text confirming Sherry on the train, in that case she maybe Vermouth. And it seem like Gin and Vodka don't have any intention to get on the train at all, I think Gin want to test Vermouth and Bourbon (I feel like he never truth them anyway)

[nzrock]

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This just pop in my head but maybe she disguised in Mouri. Haibara haven't met Mouri in the train.

Reading this got me thinking...

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...that I should had added another extra note about Amuro in ch820, so here it is(new fact listed in bold):

*Fact: Amuro apparently got his train pass via online bidding and also apparently meet Kogoro in the dinner cart(suspicious off-screen scene anyone? ), not gonna do all his dialogues as there's nothing that important.*

I also updated my previous post, with this new fact.

[Ariadne O.]

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If Okiya is Akai in disguise, then the mysterious woman could always be Jodie.  It would make sense for him to bring in at least some FBI for the possible Bourbon arc climax

[Evil-eyed Yawny Girl]

Is file 819 out already? Can't find it.

[AICHAN]

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If Okiya is Akai in disguise, then the mysterious woman could always be Jodie.  It would make sense for him to bring in at least some FBI for the possible Bourbon arc climax

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But Jodie still think Akai is dead...

[s.pel]

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If Okiya is Akai in disguise, then the mysterious woman could always be Jodie.  It would make sense for him to bring in at least some FBI for the possible Bourbon arc climax

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She could be Fusae as well, 'cause she's an FBI agent (probably)

[Yukimi]

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That last conversation seems to indicate that Gin only needs her to be in the train and totally gives the vibe of plans in blowing the train... not surprising.

My first instinct was that Scar Akai is Vermouth and the mystery woman Yukiko but someone disguised as Mouri also crossed my mind, it just seems more plausible that Vermouth is Scar Akai.

This chapter is awesomesauce.  

They still haven't released 819, have some patience, especially this week with that much stuff going on.

[Officer Kaoko]

I know!

Spoiler: File 820

Amuro is in the Scar Akai mode. This Amuro is fake. He is actualy KID in disguise .

[Leuconoe]

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Actually, I'm feeling pretty certain that the 'mystery woman' is Kir with a wig and a hat by the way Okiya spoke to her in way that sounded very accomplice-y. 

[HolmesA]

Hey guys, do you know how old is Fusae?

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I was thinking that if she's older enough she could be Sera's mother... Remember there's a file (I don't remember which now xD) that we notice that Sera knows Agasa... How does she know him? well, it can be answered if we assume that Fusae's her mother and told her about her first love. Still, I can't find the way why Sera knows about Shinichi... but you see, Fusae was from America (I guess  ) and if she's some FBI's agent and the mother of Sera, it's safe to presume that she has some connection to Akai ( her mother too  ). In this way, Sera might have come from America looking for her brother and mother. Anyway, it's just a weird theory that has just come to my mind and I wanted to share it with you guys! ( although it's wrong probably)  Forgive my English , please ^^

[mihai]

Hey guys, do you know how old is Fusae?

she should be almost as old as Agasa, I don't remember if they were in the same grade or not

[ProfParanoia]

Hey guys, do you know how old is Fusae?

she should be almost as old as Agasa, I don't remember if they were in the same grade or not

I think she was 2 years younger than him.

[Conan 48:69]

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After Conan saw a message coming from his cell phone, he ordered Detective Boys to go back to their room, the message could be about BO had been in the train or Sherry. Who is the one sending message to Conan? First, we can confirm it's not Sera.

Amuro: Conan considered Amuro as pain-in-the-neck, no way Conan gave Amuro his phone number. Amuro said just leave Kogoro to solve a case, his real meaning could be that he going to secretly plan something while Conan and Kogoro is not around.

Okiya: Conan's most trusted person, it won't be surprise that he had Conan's phone number. Furthermore, we can delete him from be the suspect as Bourbon. No way Okiya is Yusaku in disguise, otherwise what is the reason Okiya thinks"I see...so that's how it is..." when he saw Conan using Shinichi's name to make a phone call in File 813.

Scar Akai: Conan is shocked when he heard there is Akai with a scar, so no way to be him. When letting Jodie, Camel, Okiya and Sera (in File 801) to see him, he wearing a same cap. However in this series, why changing a cap and scar is bigger than usual, it's obviously disguised by second person. Even though Sera, Okiya, Amuro and Scar Akai version 2.0 were appeared at a same time, the possibility of Amuro being the original Scar Akai is still available.

Vermouth: If Vermouth sending message to Conan, the detail could be about BO found Sherry or issue a challenge to Conan. If that mystery woman with Okiya is Vermouth is too straight forward, but that woman is identical to the same way Vermouth disguised back to Vol 54 File 1(Ep 464-465), but will Gosho create a same disguise as same person.
http://www.dctp.ws/V54-Reader/V54-1Read/A4.html
http://imgsrc.baidu.com/forum/pic/item/ ... ef6dda.jpg
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1628650505

FBI: Jodie is the only one FBI agent made a phone call to Conan, but FBI still no-show in Series Part 3, since Okiya and Amuro appeared too, wish that FBI appeared next. FBI had no interest to ride a mystery train unless they investigated there is BO members inside a train and informed Conan about that. By the way, it is too odd for BO confrontation series without FBI involved.

Yusaku or Yukiko: The favourite choice for all the fans, but the problem is how do they know there is BO members in a train, Vermouth is the only BO member that Yukiko ever meet. Most people said that mystery woman is Yukiko, like almost everybody guessed the mystery woman during London Case is Yukiko and the answer is correct. Then what is the relationship between Okiya and Yukiko?

Finally, how do Conan solve a case, Conan may need Kogoro to fall asleep in order not to interrupt Conan's deduction, but if using tranquilizer dart to put Kogoro to sleep, Sera may discover the secret of Sleeping Kogoro, then Conan still need to pretend to call Shinichi on phone and solve a case.