Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 818-824 "Mystery Tr

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greaterbeastxellas wrote:
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I think that this "scar Akai" Is prob Vermouth this time since she has the strongest "Scent" to drive Sherry out. 
I'm inclined to agree with this.
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Now we can eliminate Okiya is Bourbon, if that mystery woman is Vermouth, it is too straight forward. Furthermore, Vermouth's phone is all black, but mystery woman's phone is black and white.

I found it's odd that there is no FBI agents during confrontation against BO this time.
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Ai is doing a pretty good job exposing herself to all three suspects.
I'm thinking about the message Conan got. Maybe he started suspecting Sera? Because otherwise Ai would be safer with him imo.
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unclesporkums wrote:
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Sure enough, both Okiya and Amuro are on the train! I believe the musterious lady may be Fusae Campbell like Chekhov explained in her theory since she looked like the mysterious woman in the car from that old case and they're trying to make you think it's Vermouth.
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the chapter looks great, Okiya with a woman who clearly isn't Vermouth, Vodka and Gin spying on Jirokichi. I wonde if those guys told him there was a real murder on the train.
as for the woman with Okiya, I'm still not sure whether it'll be more interesting for her to be Fusae or someone else.

also, from what she hears from the others(Sonoko, Ran, Agasa, Ayumi, Mitsuhiko, Genta) figures out the BO might have seen her in that video and most likely are after her. This big case will be really interesting
edit: just looking up on pages 3 and 4, Conan sees the video of Shiho that Mitsuhiko took and gets all worked up. Then Haibara figurs out the BO most likey saw the video as well.
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greaterbeastxellas wrote:
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I think that this "scar Akai" Is prob Vermouth this time since she has the strongest "Scent" to drive Sherry out.  Plus Gin STOP picturing Sherry naked you hentai!
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I agree about Scar Akai being Vermouth this time^^I guess Vermouth aura covers Amuro's aura,which is why Haibara didn't feel anything aroud him.
And Gin is a real pervert,it's the second time he imagines Sherry naked XDXD
Finally Conan and Ai are aware about the video of Sherry helping the DB,that's great!!!
Okiya is also there,I'm sure the woman is Fusae^^
I really can't wait for the translation,this is sooo exciting!!!
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I don't think Amuro is Bourbon I am thinking Sera is (Regardless of her may or may not being Akai's sister) Something about her just screams don't trust her to me. I'm ignoring the fact that we may be thrown off of her and onto Amuro just because he snuck in and used Kogoros comp but Sera would be the one to expect being TOO close to the group more then Amuro is.
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Here's my semi-rough translation of the title, tag line and other important bits(sorry no case translation this time :/).
Please remember that I may change translations and wordings around to suit the English audience, also this is based on the CN translation and not JP, so it may be different with DCTP release in the future.
I'm also using mixed UK/US grammar and spelling(I tend to try to stick to US side when I'm typing online), so I apologize if you can't understand jack shit :P

It is advised to read this side by side along with the Chinese picture version found here: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1627892377
Spoiler: Chapter 820
Title: Mystery Train

Tagline: Slowing closing in, the Raven filled with murderous intent smiles... The story is accelerating along with the wheels, Conan VS. Black Organization!

03
[After looking at something shocking on his phone]
Conan: You guys should head back with Ran-neechan and them first!
Genta: Ah! But we want to help too!
Ayumi: Me too!

04
Conan: You guys mind you own business!! Go back and lock the room, before I come back, no matter who it is you absolutely can not open the door!!
Hibara: Why are you suddenly...
Genta: You're being really scary...
Conan: Um, that... The murderer is still around, it's dangerous right?

05
[Hibara's thoughts]
Hibara: That ominous feeling... Still continuing from before...
Hibara: And his strange attitude... Just what is going on?
Hibara: Eh?
[Sees Scar Akai]
*Fact: Amuro apparently got his train pass via online bidding and also apparently meet Kogoro in the dinner cart(suspicious off-screen scene anyone? :P), not gonna do all his dialogues as there's nothing that important.*

07
[Peaking out of the door, looking at Amuro]
Okiya: It's almost as if God was standing on our side...

14
Agasa: Ehhh!? You sent it to the Mouri Detective Agency!? The video from last week's camping trip!?
Mitsuhiko: Yes...It's because we really want to thank the woman who saved us...
Mitsuhiko: A famous detective should be able to find out who she is...
Ran: I also saw that video with dad!
Ran: Dad said that it's hard to find by just appearance and sound alone, but if you put it online, then there may be people who knew her.
Sonoko: That uncle...has already uploaded it onto the web.
Ayumi: We're still discussing about it, that women was wearing the Mystry Train Pass Ring, maybe we can meet her here?
Genta: But we still haven't seen her!
Hibara: ...
[Hibara's thoughts]
Hibara: Can't be... The reason my heart is unsettling...
Hibara: Can it be them?

15
[In Nagoya's police HQ]
*Jirokichi is just pissed that someone was murdered on his train and wants the cops to catch the suspect at the 'speed of light', when the train stops at Nagoya station. There is no mention of Kid or any Gems here, though it is strange why he's in Nagoya. I personally think that, the case after Mystery Train would be a Kid case with no BO involved.*
Vodka: It seems there's a unexpected murder case... Luck seems to be on our side...

16
Vodka: Bro...
Gin: Ahh(Yeah)...
Gin: Bring that iron snake non-stop, all the way to us...
Gin: Just now, I received a message from Vermouth, confirming Sherry is on the train!
Vodka: Then right now, Vermouth and Bourbon to that woman...
Gin: Mm, whether they kill or capture that women... The important thing is whether that women is in the snake's stomach.
Gin: If she was swallowed alive, Sherry... Nagoya would be your final stop!

*I apologize if Gin's dialogue is weird, he's talking in riddles, so it was tough to make good translation :/*





Special Note: For people confused about Vodka's last weird line. It's probably because Vermouth and Bourbon really are on the train(despite no scene or verbal mention of it) and that's why when Gin said Vermouth sent him the message of confirming for Sherry to be on the train, Vodka immediately thinks they already got her.
Feel free to give inputs, corrections or feedback.
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Thx @nzrock, great file.
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I'm so hyped about spoilers that
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and I agree with others, SA must be Vermouth and that woman Fusae! it fits so well!
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I was just looking again at page 6 from the spoilers(which didn't load the first time) and page 7, and I have to admit Gosho is going all out with this chapter(820)
Partsu wrote:
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I'm so hyped about spoilers that
my HYPE>9000!!!
and I agree with others, SA must be Vermouth and that woman Fusae! it fits so well!
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now that I read nzrock's translation, Scar Akai on page 6 must be Vermouth, but I'm still curious why Fusae(if it's really her and it's a big possibility) be with Okiya on the train. does she want to make Agasa jealous or something? :) joking
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I believe that Vermouth is SA but the woman with Okiya is Yukiko. If Conan planned with Akai all along to use disguises, his mom would be the person to go to. Also, how would Fusae have met Conan to send him a message (which is what I'm assuming the woman is doing with her cell phone)? They haven't met (if they did, I think Conan woulda helped out Agasa with his love problems)

Even if Fusae somehow knew Conan's number, why would he trust it?
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sonoci wrote:
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I believe that Vermouth is SA but the woman with Okiya is Yukiko. If Conan planned with Akai all along to use disguises, his mom would be the person to go to. Also, how would Fusae have met Conan to send him a message (which is what I'm assuming the woman is doing with her cell phone)? They haven't met (if they did, I think Conan woulda helped out Agasa with his love problems)

Even if Fusae somehow knew Conan's number, why would he trust it?
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I'm guessing, off-screen meeting? Either way, it's Yukiko or Fusae.
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Spoiler:
First reaction:
Oh. Yukiko is on the train. She disguise Okiya as S.A (Yes. as himself)
Second reaction:
That S.A. is Vermouth. the woman is Yukiko.
Third reaction.
S.A. is Vermouth (Haibara strong reaction, difference scar And Vermouth is on the train). That woman is Fusae (Hopefully her mystery as Akai connection who trace Conan will be explain at last)
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I really don't think Conan would endanger his mother like that...so for me it's Fusae or someone we never saw in DC.
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Yukiko and Heiji were in the haunted ship. Unless we assume Conan can see through Vermouth's plan, I think he endanger his mother and unknowing friend enough.
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