New Member Here - A few theories

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acerola21

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Re: New Member Here - A few theories

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Sorry I keep butting my crazy head around here, but I just wanted to say,

HOMG I GOT MY HAT LADY!

. . . I think. ^^;

I mean, the resemblance is uncanny, don't you think?
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More crazy speculation/theories from me:

I admit I don't think that Okiya is Bourbon, or that ScarAkai is Akai anymore, now that Akai's sister (most likely, based on her eyes and name) is here. I think my new theory is that Sera Masumi is both Bourbon and ScarAkai, and that Okiya is a new character. As for who Akai is, I have no idea.

I think that the glasses guy and hat lady are Okiya and Sera, respectively. I know, the glasses guy and hat lady appeared in Ch. 419 and Sera appeared in Ch. 768, but I'm not saying that Aoyama plans hundreds of chapters ahead - rather, that Aoyama puts hundreds of fillers between plot. So why do I think that Okiya is a new character and not Akai? Because the end of Ch. 419 implies that the glasses guy and Akai are two different people:
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So why do I think that Sera is both Bourbon and ScarAkai? Well, this is speculation on my part. ^^;

I think that Bourbon is an ally, since Rena said s/he started moving right after Akai was rumored to be dead. I think the "Only I get to kill Akai" line served to protect Akai more than harm him, since the line scares other members away from killing Akai themselves, and if Bourbon didn't have an intention to harm/kill Akai then Akai was more or less safe within the BO. I had trouble thinking that ScarAkai would be part of the BO, since disguising as Akai wouldn't accomplish anything - disguising as Akai wouldn't help getting intelligence on the FBI, since the FBI would regard ScarAkai as an obvious trap, and the BO would freak out and might accidentally kill ScarAkai - but it makes sense if there was an ally within the BO who wanted to check if Akai is dead or not. Okiya also says that the "pack of wolves . . . lost their easy prey" (Ch. 704) when ScarAkai escaped, and if wolves = BO and ScarAkai = prey, then ScarAkai would be someone the BO should like dead. If Sera really is the hat lady (who seems to have worked with Akai and the glasses dude [who I think is Okiya]) and is Akai's sister, then she's an ideal candidate to be Akai's ally (aka Bourbon) and Okiya's ally (aka ScarAkai). Plus, there'll be reasons for her to try to find out if Akai is truly dead or not, hence her disguise as ScarAkai, probably with Vermouth's aid.

Which brings me to think that Vermouth could also be an ally. Vermouth refers to the BO not only as wolves, but werewolves - maybe this is Akai, Okiya, and Sera's code for the BO or something? She does seem to want to bring down the BO in her weird way.

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I'd also like to add something . . . Haibara says at the end of File 304 that Gin is left handed, yet File 242 shows Gin shooting a gun with his right hand. Huh. Nvm! Not sure why I thought Gin was using his right hand when he was clearly using his left hand . . .

EDIT: Another potential glasses dude appeared! Although, Amuro, Okiya, and Sera's vehicles are different from the one the glasses dude was riding. I did think that the glasses dude's car looked like Detective Satou's, and Amuro's car is the white version of Satou's, but the driver's seat is on the right, not left side. Okiya's car is completely different. I guess this means that the glasses dude was James, and that's why James recognized Sera? If this is true, why is James trying to hide Sera?

EDIT: Hmm, I just found out that James' and glasses dudes' cars are pretty similar:
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I would argue that Billy is noti the glasses dude, and that Fusae is not the hat lady, because:
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I guess this might suggest that the glasses dude is James and that the hat lady is Sera. In a way, this makes sense, since James seems to recognize Sera somehow - though James doesn't look like the glasses dude at all with his square jaw, hmm. The glasses dude is drawn so specifically, too.
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MagicianUndertheMoonlight

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Re: New Member Here - A few theories

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With regard to Anokata, I doubt it would be Elena since Shiho's sister was killed my the organization. That seems rather a strange thing for her mother to allow.

My main theory surrounding anokata is that this person has a codename Martini since a lot of the alcohols used as codenames so far can all be used in martinis. Gin and Vodka are basic components of a martini and Vermouth, being Anokata's favorite, is almost always in a martini as its base.

As regards Sera, I also had reason to believe she was Bourbon, since Kir does not reveal a gender and describes Bourbon as a great detective. Bourbon is an american whiskey and Sera said she studied for years in America before returning to Japan on her own. In addition, right after her introduction she was involved in a bombing case where a man strapped bombs to himself to find out the truth about the murder of his sister. This reminded me of the Thirteen Red Shirts case where a man did that to expose the one threatening him about a murder he committed in the past, which was the last time Conan had an encounter with Bourbon who texted Mouri the answer. It seemed the two cases draw a parallel for me in identifying Sera.

In addition, though hard alcohol names are given usually to guys and wines to girls, Bourbon is described as being similar in personality to Vermouth, who was given a hard alcohol alias. As such, if Bourbon is similar in personality to Vermouth, Bourbon could also be a woman. There is strong evidence though that Sera is Akai's sister and also Sscar Akai and Sera have very different builds for her to disguise as him.
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Re: New Member Here - A few theories

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MagicianUndertheMoonlight wrote:and Vermouth, being Anokata's favorite, is almost always in a martini as its base.
Yet there is like no Vermouth in a martini. :P
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acerola21

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Re: New Member Here - A few theories

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With regard to Anokata, I doubt it would be Elena since Shiho's sister was killed my the organization. That seems rather a strange thing for her mother to allow.
I guess, I've thought about that - I don't really want to view Elena that way, either - but my current thought is that the BO is actually pursuing something the boss thinks is for the good. If that's the case, then the boss might feel that ends justify the means, kinda like how Sera thought that killing Sawaguri Isao is better than Isao killing his sister's murderer and then himself.

For Sera, my current stance is that she's Bourbon but (surprise!) is also a good guy. She is named after Sayla Mass, so maybe she's on the side of Akai's enemies like Sayla was on the side of Char Aznable's enemies. I will also maintain that the Hat Lady is Sera. The Hat Lady looks and acts too much like Sera for her not to be Sera!
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