FILE.647 English Manga (Amnesia, Real Or Fake?)

[Jd-]

English scanlation up on the K-man's linker.

Best story since Clash, maybe?

[krystal.glass]

English scanlation up on the K-man's linker.

Best story since Clash, maybe?

Finally. I was killing myself trying to translate it myself with the Japanese raw since morning... and I kept getting interrupted.

(Thank you Detective Conan Scanlation team, as always!)

And yes, the last time I was this excited was during Clash manga .

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Aside from that, I agree with Hazy - I mean, the second we see Shinichi, we assume it isn't him because all this time we've gone thinking there's no way he's returning that easily. I wonder what a permanent Amnesia could do to poor Shin-chan?

I don't know whether to think this is the real Shinichi or not, but I am eager to find out if these chapters will be as vital to the ending plot as I want them to be.

[Rio Nagava]

Okay...
I think that Kudos Cold + Antidote + long swimming makes things worse.
Temporaly amnesia, drug which works less time than previous one. Strange circumstances, under which poor Conan had to run away...

I think that Kudo is real. But his face expression is bother me... Too calm...
A preson with amnesia, having such calm face?
It's odd...

That Hairy - is drawn as a person, not just a culprit (which usually drawn as person without distinctive details).
Kaitou could make himself look like Kudo, but i doubt that he would swim naked just to steal Ran =)

Btw it's rather odd that Ai wanted to test antidote secretly... Maybe she's at lolicon already?

[ten]

what I want to know is from 646 is what was in that bag on the table (next to the radio) where conan gets locked in? And from the case a year ago how did he force his wife to commit suicide?

also in page regarding the translation on page 7
Heiji says
"Do you mean the antidote that little girl from the school festival made"
  -- pretty sure this translation is off -- I can't translate Japanese but I am guessing it really said
"Do you mean the antidote that little girl made for the school festival" (referring to the school festival play during the desperate revival arc I guess)

[GinRei]

Not positive, but with how desperate he was to get out of the cabin it was likely something dangerous.  A canister with poisonous gas, for example.

As for "the girl from the school festival", I think he was refering to Haibara and not the antidote here.  I don't think he's met her outside of that one time, so that's probably how he'd refer to her.

[kudoshinchi]

As for "the girl from the school festival", I think he was refering to Haibara and not the antidote here.  I don't think he's met her outside of that one time, so that's probably how he'd refer to her.

I think this is partly correct,as Heiji has also seen her during "345.Head to Head Match with Black Org" case
But she was asleep,there might be more cases like these.
As for Amnesia and Kudo being Fake or Real? 
I am looking forward for like everyone else.....Hope it turns out an interesting case after Clash arc.

[Steel]

I don't think it's a Kudo impersonator. But then again, it does seem logical looking at how Ran's reacting. I think it's too early to say who's right or not though. This does seem like an awesome story arc.

[Spimer]

Well, about that of the APTX4869 antidote in vo. 25 only lasting 24 hours doesn't make sense, moreover, in the series and in then manga says "24 minutes over range" but, the Spanish version ('cause I live on Spain) was translated as "24 hours" but that doesn't fit for a number of reasons.

It's night when Haibara tells Conan in the hospital about the antidote, the festival is more likely to be at morning or noon, then, there's the night of that day, and the NEXT day when he returns to high school and there's that murder case in the restaurant.

That's more than 24 hours! I guess the "24 mins over range" translation if the right one. I'm surprised that the Paikal (if that's the name of the liquor) antidote lasts that long and this new one only 24 hours. Odd, isn't it?

Spimer

[EdogawaConanTantei]

And what is Kaitou Kid's motive to imitate Shinichi?  I doubt he's got any dirt on him this time, he's probably more interested in his next heist.  Bourbon is a maybe, and Vermouth maybe too...but it could be an unknown person, who has connections with Shinichi in the past.  Yet faking amnesia?  To gain information maybe?

I wasn't really suggesting it is Kaitou, just stating that it is easy for him to impersonate Shinichi. As for a motive, I would consider their "rivalry" enough for Kaitou to want to mess around by being Shinichi for a while.

Keep in mind: I would LOVE if the Shinichi we're seeing is fake, and the white-haired guy is Shinichi. I just don't think that's how it is 

[ten]

as for the kudo impersonator theory... if you look at the very last panel, the bottom of his face does sort of match kudo's -- also it seems ran isn't very interested about kudo or concerned for him (as kogoro says) and is more worried about conan (so I suppose this starting point is the origin of this theory)

[codename64546]

the drug is a dupe not a dope

it creates a clone of the receiver 

[Hazy?!]

Also, maybe we're so used of Shinichi looking like himself (and looking full of himself...XD) that when he's not and he has no idea where he is or who he is, that his expression just isn't familiar with the Shinichi we know and love?  >:

As for a motive, I would consider their "rivalry" enough for Kaitou to want to mess around by being Shinichi for a while.

Yeah, like in Movie 8?  XD 

That's more than 24 hours! I guess the "24 mins over range" translation if the right one. I'm surprised that the Paikal (if that's the name of the liquor) antidote lasts that long and this new one only 24 hours. Odd, isn't it?

It is odd.  What has Haibara been working on with the Antidote if she hasn't been working on it's duration?  It's effectiveness?

I just can't help thinking of Movie 4 every time I think of the file.  XD  Two Amnesia cases in one series, one Canon and one not, and one's Shinichi and one's Ran.

[Rio Nagava]

That's more than 24 hours! I guess the "24 mins over range" translation if the right one. I'm surprised that the Paikal (if that's the name of the liquor) antidote lasts that long and this new one only 24 hours. Odd, isn't it?

It is odd.  What has Haibara been working on with the Antidote if she hasn't been working on it's duration?  It's effectiveness?

I did mention that =)

I think that antidote supposed to completly revert Conan to Kudo.
I.e. destroy APTX4869 effect.
First antidote work over 24 hours, well it looks that way. And this would work less time...
Only reasonable explanation - Kudos body is resistant to previous antidote.

[Miyano-sama]

Haibara also claimed that Shinichi might die if he retook the School Festival cure. She doesn't seem particularly concerned about any risk factor in the "new" antidote. Which is probably why she felt confident she could test it on Kudo secretly without any particular danger to his body.

That's why she wants to test it in secret. If Kudo dies, nobody can blame her for his death. 

[yellowpika]

Also, on another note...has Gosho changed his style of drawing Shinichi?  I know we haven't seen him for ages (literally, the last appearance was v. 25... that's a fair few years ago).  He looks very different from the Shinichi that's appeared in those 'dual moments' that Conan has sometimes.  Is it due to his cold, the drug use, his vacant expression because of the amnesia, or is this Shinichi fake?

I totally agree!!!  I thought that it was just my imagination but as I was reading more into the file Shinichi really did NOT look like Shinichi.  I don't know why and I can't put my finger on it but something about him is just different, and it's not only just his expression.

I think something is going on because in previous revival cases Ran would totally forget about Conan, or so it seemed, and would focus all her attention on Shinichi.  However, this time she spoke only a few words to him even when her "husband" has amnesia!!!  And the fact that Kogoro said "[Ran is] more worried about [Conan] than [Shinichi]" has to mean something because Gosho does not put extra fluff in his work.  Every word said is always essential for future reference.

As for Shinichi being an imposer I am not sure; however, I am almost positive that it is not Kaito Kid
Why?  Well because:
1) Gosho likes to spread out the appearance of special guests and Kid appeared only thirty files ago (3-6 episodes).
2) When Kid appears he is confident and cocky, but this Shinichi does not appear that way.
3) Isn't it usually that the audience would know if it is a Kaito Kid or not (either by the cover or mention of his name)?
4) There is no reason for Kaito Kid to play as Shinichi with amnesia.

However, all of this is just mere speculation-I have no proof to say that Shinichi does not look like Shinichi or that Kaito Kid cannot play Shincihi.  There is no evidence....yet. 

But I do kinda believe that Gosho is about to write Conan's "beginning of the end."