episode 345 question

[caribou]

-Original Post....redone-
Conan knew, shame on all of you for doubting his genius. Though Gosho didn't spell it out for us, he subtley showed us that Conan was solving this mystery like a jigsaw puzzle in his head.  The first piece of the puzzle was introduced in Discover Jodie, where Conan informs Agasa about Mouri's case files, while the last piece was in Party Showdown, where Vermouth's invitation makes all the other pieces fall together.

To assemble the whole puzzle from first piece to last from Conan's perspective would go as:

Spoiler:

• In Discover Jodie, Conan informs Agasa that he has recently become aware that all of Mouri's case files have been stolen and returned without any alterations. This gets him thinking of the possible usage someone would have with that information.
• Later in Hooligan Case, Conan receives the information on Chris & Sharon Vineyard he requested from Agasa and adds it to his knowledge of The Golden Apple case. He starts to wonder if the events of that case did infact happened like they appeared. "She'll be one tough enemy, that's for sure".
• In Haunted House, Conan is debating the death of the Silver Hair Killer with Ran. He no longer believes that it "could of been" a poor act of suicide but more likely a murder with the intent to cover up something but just can't figure out what.
• By Four Porches, Conan is certain that the recent events surrounding him & Haibara are not coincidences and revolve around the two people who just conveniently introduced themselves into his daily life, Dr. Araide & Jodie.  He begins to take precautions by lying to Agasa about Araide and keeping his distance from Jodie. He isn't certain about what is going on yet but knows the best plan is to keep his distance from both "culprits". Plan back fires as both Jodie & Araide end up at Agasa's house while he's not there.
• Bathroom Case, he's already sweep the house and found the listening devices which confirms his suspicions but he's at a disadvantage because he's not sure which one planted the device and what they would do if removed.
• Is disheartened that the situation reached this point on his watch and prepares for the worst by keeping guard with the bait of himself and Haibara in one easy location to attack in the middle of the night.
• Morning comes and he's gained ground because nothing happened and controls information by dictating the flow of the conversations inside the house and plans to continue doing so by staying over for a period of time. Has Agasa repeat where they are going with a false pretense and prepares himself for an ambush outside the house at their destination."Maybe we don't exist in this world anymore."
• False alarm at the destination. Tries to get an advantage by listening to the tapes only to realize they are only meant for one person.

Spoiler:

• Party Showdown Conan is still running the case in his head trying to fill in the missing pieces. Has no luck but is still going ahead with a basic plan of switching himself out for Haibara(to keep her safe) and pretends to be "sick" to remove "Conan" from the situation to make the switch possible. He's waiting on the reply of his mother to see if she can make the switch happen.
• Vermouth's invitation arrives and Conan realizes why the culprit has not made a move yet, it's because they only want one of them. The invitation is bait to separate him from Haibara long for the culprit to act out their plan and now all the pieces finally click together.
• In Conan's brain at a fast pace, Silver Hair Killer was killed to cover up that he had been replaced - only a person with both high acting ability and disguise ability could do so - Sharron Vineyard was in the area - He and Ran saved  the "killer" when logic states they shouldn't have - Chris replaces Sharron immediately after her death and appears more frequently thereafter - Chris was in Japan recently at a party - Pisco disposed of his purple handkerchief after committing a murder at this party but had it once again during questioning - Chris was one of the 7 that had the same purple handkerchief as Pisco according to the log - Chris is Vermouth - Mouri's case files were taken and returned - Araide is in those files, Jodie isn't. Vermouth is Dr. Araide. "Why haven't they come and killed you?!"
  "I don't have a reason but I at least know one of the causes"
• With the puzzle finally solved, Conan gets his smile & adapts his plan. He pretends to take the bait and acts like he is going in blind. Knocks out Haibara to let Vermouth know that she will be staying in the house(even against her will) and to stop her from leaking something he doesn't want Vermouth to know in her panic to stop him.
• Conan now plays along with the Professor, gets the reply from his mom that she can make his initial request possible and takes this chance to mail Heiji (as he knows Vermouth will try to preoccupy "Shinichi" at the party) and re-mail his mom about the Shinichi- Heiji switch and gets the "OK" on that as well and a big smile comes to his face as his plan is set. Now the only thing left to solve is who is Jodie really?...FBI? and at this same instance something at his house gets his attention.
• Conan takes Agasa down to Haibara's lab where there are no devices planted and informs him of the real plan(a plan with a weak pay off if you ask me..but I'm not the genius) and Haibara is eventually moved into this room to complete the switch. Conan now goes to check his house.
• Conan drops the bait on the listening devices, Vermouth bites. The link between him and Heiji is going well and everything seems on track until Jodie appears at the door. Conan tries to remove her from the plan but reconsiders as soon as he catches Jodie's lie about Araide and takes a risk. Now with the proof that Jodie's been listening and shadowing Dr. Araide, Conan gets in her car and deduces on the fly if she's FBI/CIA/Interpol.
• Conan can't fully trust Jodie yet but knows that she is leading Vermouth into a trap which works to his advantage, so he gives Jodie his triumph card in unmasking(he obviously never even hints about his other aces, him not being Conan & device under his shirt) Vermouth to test Jodie, she passes.

Spoiler:

• Conan taking part in this exhausting deduction battle makes him seem less careless(aka Stupid) for not taking into account that Haibara would do everything in her power to break free & find him(like Heiji deduced) or to actually confirm Ran would be where she said she was going to be.

Extremely annoying typing this up again but there it was, I strongly believe all the small pieces pointed that he knew and that he was in a mental showdown but if you find errors point them out because that is the most fun part.

that's very observant. (completely opposite from being Blind, haha, ok I will stop punning now) I must take note of this post.

[Nyarl]

Mouri's case files were taken and returned - Araide is in those files, Jodie isn't. Vermouth is Dr. Araide.

This is a very convincing point, since Conan was concentrating on three suspects when Heiji showed up to investigate Jodie, Jodie and Shuuichi really weren't involved in any cases Kogoro was involved with, and those were the only files Takagi mentioned were taken/returned.

I'm not convinced he's figured it out all the way down to Sharon being disguised as the serial killer when Ran saved her. In volume 42 he speculates that it was fondness for his mother that made Sharon want to keep him safe from the plan to get Sherry. This conflicts with him noticing the killer aiming at them before he warned the killer about the police hearing a shot.  

Conan taking part in this exhausting deduction battle makes him seem less careless(aka Stupid) for not taking into account that Haibara would do everything in her power to break free & find him(like Heiji deduced) or to actually confirm Ran would be where she said she was going to be.

I don't think that stuff could be held against Shin'ichi in any case. He did try to hide the spare glasses form Haibara. He had no idea Ran became suspicious of Jodie. He'd need to be omniscient, not merely extremely smart and observant, to be expected to anticipate everything that could go wrong to counter them.

[caribou]

Conan taking part in this exhausting deduction battle makes him seem less careless(aka Stupid) for not taking into account that Haibara would do everything in her power to break free & find him(like Heiji deduced) or to actually confirm Ran would be where she said she was going to be.

I don't think that stuff could be held against Shin'ichi in any case. He did try to hide the spare glasses form Haibara. He had no idea Ran became suspicious of Jodie. He'd need to be omniscient, not merely extremely smart and observant, to be expected to anticipate everything that could go wrong to counter them.

I thought that was partly Heiji's doing, too. If I read the panels correctly there was one panel in which Heiji was thinking that he wants to make sure that Conan doesn't have to go through his scheme alone.

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[sstimson]

-Original Post....redone-
Conan knew, shame on all of you for doubting his genius. Though Gosho didn't spell it out for us, he subtley showed us that Conan was solving this mystery like a jigsaw puzzle in his head.  The first piece of the puzzle was introduced in Discover Jodie, where Conan informs Agasa about Mouri's case files, while the last piece was in Party Showdown, where Vermouth's invitation makes all the other pieces fall together.

To assemble the whole puzzle from first piece to last from Conan's perspective would go as:

Spoiler:

• In Discover Jodie, Conan informs Agasa that he has recently become aware that all of Mouri's case files have been stolen and returned without any alterations. This gets him thinking of the possible usage someone would have with that information.
• Later in Hooligan Case, Conan receives the information on Chris & Sharon Vineyard he requested from Agasa and adds it to his knowledge of The Golden Apple case. He starts to wonder if the events of that case did infact happened like they appeared. "She'll be one tough enemy, that's for sure".
• In Haunted House, Conan is debating the death of the Silver Hair Killer with Ran. He no longer believes that it "could of been" a poor act of suicide but more likely a murder with the intent to cover up something but just can't figure out what.
• By Four Porches, Conan is certain that the recent events surrounding him & Haibara are not coincidences and revolve around the two people who just conveniently introduced themselves into his daily life, Dr. Araide & Jodie.  He begins to take precautions by lying to Agasa about Araide and keeping his distance from Jodie. He isn't certain about what is going on yet but knows the best plan is to keep his distance from both "culprits". Plan back fires as both Jodie & Araide end up at Agasa's house while he's not there.
• Bathroom Case, he's already sweep the house and found the listening devices which confirms his suspicions but he's at a disadvantage because he's not sure which one planted the device and what they would do if removed.
• Is disheartened that the situation reached this point on his watch and prepares for the worst by keeping guard with the bait of himself and Haibara in one easy location to attack in the middle of the night.
• Morning comes and he's gained ground because nothing happened and controls information by dictating the flow of the conversations inside the house and plans to continue doing so by staying over for a period of time. Has Agasa repeat where they are going with a false pretense and prepares himself for an ambush outside the house at their destination."Maybe we don't exist in this world anymore."
• False alarm at the destination. Tries to get an advantage by listening to the tapes only to realize they are only meant for one person.

Spoiler:

• Party Showdown Conan is still running the case in his head trying to fill in the missing pieces. Has no luck but is still going ahead with a basic plan of switching himself out for Haibara(to keep her safe) and pretends to be "sick" to remove "Conan" from the situation to make the switch possible. He's waiting on the reply of his mother to see if she can make the switch happen.
• Vermouth's invitation arrives and Conan realizes why the culprit has not made a move yet, it's because they only want one of them. The invitation is bait to separate him from Haibara long for the culprit to act out their plan and now all the pieces finally click together.
• In Conan's brain at a fast pace, Silver Hair Killer was killed to cover up that he had been replaced - only a person with both high acting ability and disguise ability could do so - Sharron Vineyard was in the area - He and Ran saved  the "killer" when logic states they shouldn't have - Chris replaces Sharron immediately after her death and appears more frequently thereafter - Chris was in Japan recently at a party - Pisco disposed of his purple handkerchief after committing a murder at this party but had it once again during questioning - Chris was one of the 7 that had the same purple handkerchief as Pisco according to the log - Chris is Vermouth - Mouri's case files were taken and returned - Araide is in those files, Jodie isn't. Vermouth is Dr. Araide. "Why haven't they come and killed you?!"
  "I don't have a reason but I at least know one of the causes"
• With the puzzle finally solved, Conan gets his smile & adapts his plan. He pretends to take the bait and acts like he is going in blind. Knocks out Haibara to let Vermouth know that she will be staying in the house(even against her will) and to stop her from leaking something he doesn't want Vermouth to know in her panic to stop him.
• Conan now plays along with the Professor, gets the reply from his mom that she can make his initial request possible and takes this chance to mail Heiji (as he knows Vermouth will try to preoccupy "Shinichi" at the party) and re-mail his mom about the Shinichi- Heiji switch and gets the "OK" on that as well and a big smile comes to his face as his plan is set. Now the only thing left to solve is who is Jodie really?...FBI? and at this same instance something at his house gets his attention.
• Conan takes Agasa down to Haibara's lab where there are no devices planted and informs him of the real plan(a plan with a weak pay off if you ask me..but I'm not the genius) and Haibara is eventually moved into this room to complete the switch. Conan now goes to check his house.
• Conan drops the bait on the listening devices, Vermouth bites. The link between him and Heiji is going well and everything seems on track until Jodie appears at the door. Conan tries to remove her from the plan but reconsiders as soon as he catches Jodie's lie about Araide and takes a risk. Now with the proof that Jodie's been listening and shadowing Dr. Araide, Conan gets in her car and deduces on the fly if she's FBI/CIA/Interpol.
• Conan can't fully trust Jodie yet but knows that she is leading Vermouth into a trap which works to his advantage, so he gives Jodie his triumph card in unmasking(he obviously never even hints about his other aces, him not being Conan & device under his shirt) Vermouth to test Jodie, she passes.

Spoiler:

• Conan taking part in this exhausting deduction battle makes him seem less careless(aka Stupid) for not taking into account that Haibara would do everything in her power to break free & find him(like Heiji deduced) or to actually confirm Ran would be where she said she was going to be.

Extremely annoying typing this up again but there it was, I strongly believe all the small pieces pointed that he knew and that he was in a mental showdown but if you find errors point them out because that is the most fun part.

mostly right but for two points

One I think it unlikely that until Conan visited his old house, he knew his mom was in Japan. After all if his mom had been a BO agent, he be dead. She shot him with a water gun. They explained they were worried about him. They then probably then made up the costume plan and got Heiji involved. I am very sure the ok seen on Conan phone was from Heiji.

Two involving Heiji again. Heiji might have seen where Conan hide the tracking Glasses. He makes sure that Haibara can get out and follow Conan. The reason I think she gets and used the glasses is the ease in which Haibara found Conan. I see no way Conan could know where Jodie was taking him.

[TheBlind]

I'm not convinced he's figured it out all the way down to Sharon being disguised as the serial killer when Ran saved her. In volume 42 he speculates that it was fondness for his mother that made Sharon want to keep him safe from the plan to get Sherry. This conflicts with him noticing the killer aiming at them before he warned the killer about the police hearing a shot.  

I couldn't find what you a referring to in vol. 42. I have no doubt that it's there but I'm going to need a link to get me on the same page as you(unintentional pun)(sometimes I have problem seeing the obvious when looking for something  ).

I don't think that stuff could be held against Shin'ichi in any case. He did try to hide the spare glasses form Haibara. He had no idea Ran became suspicious of Jodie. He'd need to be omniscient, not merely extremely smart and observant, to be expected to anticipate everything that could go wrong to counter them.

I really meant that(spoiler 3) as a light joke to finish off that huge post but I agree and disagree with your points. Conan knowing that those glasses were missing because Haibara had them should of been a red flag for him to come up with a measure to insure she won't place herself in danger. If Heiji predicted Haibara's course of action without him knowing her as well, Conan should of see it a mile away but him being preoccupied fits with the "slip up".
As for Ran I agree here, Conan couldn't of known she wouldn't of been where she claimed, but maybe we could of gotten an on panel/ on screen call from Conan to Ran to check-up on her. It was already a red flag when Ran's father and her best friend(two of the people she's usually around with) are attending a party but she flat out refuses to go. If Conan wasn't busy with his plan, he probably would of caught this.

I thought that was partly Heiji's doing, too. If I read the panels correctly there was one panel in which Heiji was thinking that he wants to make sure that Conan doesn't have to go through his scheme alone.

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I think that could be a small translation error as it feels from the start Heiji is talking about himself. If he was kept in the dark knowing Kudo was in danger, he would break the lock and do anything possible to get to him to help. It makes more sense this way as Conan was in the house after Heiji left, so he could of checked the door and Heiji would know that. It also stays in character for Heiji as he would of forced Conan to take him than break a lock for Haibara if he though Conan was in THAT much danger(at the time).

[TheBlind]

mostly right but for two points

One I think it unlikely that until Conan visited his old house, he knew his mom was in Japan. After all if his mom had been a BO agent, he be dead. She shot him with a water gun. They explained they were worried about him. They then probably then made up the costume plan and got Heiji involved. I am very sure the ok seen on Conan phone was from Heiji.

Two involving Heiji again. Heiji might have seen where Conan hide the tracking Glasses. He makes sure that Haibara can get out and follow Conan. The reason I think she gets and used the glasses is the ease in which Haibara found Conan. I see no way Conan could know where Jodie was taking him.

Point 1- That is highly unlikely because that would mean Conan's entire plan was a hail mary. Hard to believe with the evidence that the events unfolded:

• Conan sees his mom
• Conan asks his mom if she's good enough to switch him out with Haibara and do the same for Heiji randomly
• Informs Heiji of the plan & Heiji replies with an Ok full of hearts..

That would mean Conan didn't have a plan up to that point. I think the evidence provides a better reason of what actually happened. Also your point doesn't hold because Heiji received the text while he and Kazuha had on their school attired and Conan visited his house at night. It would make more sense for Conan to text Heiji after his mom's original reply(which fits him wearing the school uniform) than for a)Heiji & Kazuha to be wearing their school clothing in the middle of the night b)Conan taking the risk of texting Heiji the day of the party without knowing if Heiji can do it(cold, family trip,etc., knowing it would take Yukiko 6 hours to do the disguise).

A better explanation to your point 1 would be that Conan expected his mom to arrive later or sooner back at home(which fits him looking at the house after the text). Which is why he grew suspicious when no one was in the house by nightfall but there where signs of it being used (we all know how Conan likes believe Yukiko wouldn't do childish things).

As for "they explained", not really. The explanation we saw was the one that Conan gave to Heiji which made it all seem like a big coincidence(which is what Conan wanted). If Conan told Heiji the true plan, you actually think Heiji would of let him do it or even help him do it?(he's using himself as bait when dealing with an organization full of skilled killers) Chances are not very likely, so giving him the bs to stop him from suspecting something makes perfect sense.

Point 2.1- I never said Conan knew where Jodie was taking him. I said he deduced that Jodie was setting up a trap for Dr. Araide using him(Haibara) as the bait.

Point 2.2 - Assuming Haibara just didn't keep the glasses hidden for insurance after the "locker incident",Heiji would never mess up Conan's plan like that. Be very out of character. If he had a problem with the plan, he would of confronted Conan about it instead of blinding him with an unexpected variable while his plan is in motion. Also Heiji is the type to not to think twice of placing himself in a dangerous situation but be hesitant when it comes to doing it to another. So he wouldn't leave the glasses for Haibara to trail Conan or break a lock Conan could notice later himself.

P.S.-As a Heiji fan, I would like to think that he doesn't make it a habit of replying with "OK" made of hearts..

[kirite]

I always interpreted that Heiji Heiji saw Haibara sleeping and Conan locking the door to make sure she stays.  So Heiji opens the door a little bit for her just incase Conan needs help.

I wouldn't say he did it to mess with Conan's plan per say.  But since Conan is doing something dangerous he thinks Haibara's ability to get out of the house and help him would be good back up.

As for the tracker glasses since Haibara lives there I'm sure she's the one who knows where it is and not Heiji.

Point 2.2 - Assuming Haibara just didn't keep the glasses hidden for insurance after the "locker incident",Heiji would never mess up Conan's plan like that. Be very out of character. If he had a problem with the plan, he would of confronted Conan about it instead of blinding him with an unexpected variable while his plan is in motion. Also Heiji is the type to not to think twice of placing himself in a dangerous situation but be hesitant when it comes to doing it to another. So he wouldn't leave the glasses for Haibara to trail Conan or break a lock Conan could notice later himself.

I assume that Agasa keeps a pair(s) of tracker glasses in his house for backup and Haibara knows where they are (along with extra stun watch etc...).  I also think that even if Heiji voice his opinions about Conan's plan Conan wouldn't listen to his advice.  

"Oie Kudo this is too dangerous maybe we should think this over."

"Geeze stop worrying already!"

Or something...  I do agree that it's completely out of character for him to place Haibara in danger.  But I think he's just trying to make sure that Conan's not alone.

And eehhh isn't this the second time Heiji used hearts xD?  "I wanted to see you <3" or something like that...then Conan pointed his stun watch at him xDD.

[TheBlind]

I always interpreted that Heiji Heiji saw Haibara sleeping and Conan locking the door to make sure she stays.  So Heiji opens the door a little bit for her just incase Conan needs help.

I wouldn't say he did it to mess with Conan's plan per say.  But since Conan is doing something dangerous he thinks Haibara's ability to get out of the house and help him would be good back up.

I just don't see that working though. Even if Heiji was the last one to leave or doubled back to unlock the door, he was still boarding the ship by sundown. This gives Conan ample time to double check the door and I think he would make a point of doing it after he received Dr. Araide's call that he was coming over.

I assume that Agasa keeps a pair(s) of tracker glasses in his house for backup and Haibara knows where they are (along with extra stun watch etc...).  I also think that even if Heiji voice his opinions about Conan's plan Conan wouldn't listen to his advice.  

"Oie Kudo this is too dangerous maybe we should think this over."

"Geeze stop worrying already!"

Or something...  I do agree that it's completely out of character for him to place Haibara in danger.  But I think he's just trying to make sure that Conan's not alone.

I've always assumed that there are only two pairs of homing glasses when it comes to the canon. Out of canon, he has multiple, including bulletproof ones...pure awesome.

But anyway, I think if Heiji knew Conan's full plan, he would be in a rush to wrap up whatever event Vermouth had planned on the ship and go join Conan. He seemed really relaxed, even after Conan closed communications(I'm assuming he did because Heiji didn't react to all the "stuff" happening.) to fully know. So with that, again, I can't see him giving Conan the Haibara Emergency Card.

And eehhh isn't this the second time Heiji used hearts xD?  "I wanted to see you <3" or something like that...then Conan pointed his stun watch at him xDD.

I don't....remember this.. and I'm not sure if I want to.

[Nyarl]

I'm not convinced he's figured it out all the way down to Sharon being disguised as the serial killer when Ran saved her. In volume 42 he speculates that it was fondness for his mother that made Sharon want to keep him safe from the plan to get Sherry. This conflicts with him noticing the killer aiming at them before he warned the killer about the police hearing a shot.  

I couldn't find what you a referring to in vol. 42. I have no doubt that it's there but I'm going to need a link to get me on the same page as you(unintentional pun)(sometimes I have problem seeing the obvious when looking for something  ;D).

Here. He never outright says “fondness for his motherâ€

[kirite]

I just don't see that working though. Even if Heiji was the last one to leave or doubled back to unlock the door, he was still boarding the ship by sundown. This gives Conan ample time to double check the door and I think he would make a point of doing it after he received Dr. Araide's call that he was coming over.

Though it is possible for Conan to check to door to make sure she's really "locked up" I really doubt Conan has an intent of -locking her up- and more of the intent of making sure she doesn't know anything.  He probably hopes she'll sleep through the whole thing or something so he wouldn't want to risk waking her.  I'm sure Haibara is resourceful enough to escape from a locked room if she feels the need to so sleeping through it will be the best.

I've always assumed that there are only two pairs of homing glasses when it comes to the canon. Out of canon, he has multiple, including bulletproof ones...pure awesome.

In the movies, Conan is so manly that he can stop the force of bullets with his face .  As for the backup pursuit glasses Haibara hid them:

http://www.onemanga.com/Detective_Conan/433/16/

I wouldn't put it past Agasa to make a bunch though, considering how he made a bunch of voice changer pens for the DB and gives away his gadgets quite casually.

But anyway, I think if Heiji knew Conan's full plan, he would be in a rush to wrap up whatever event Vermouth had planned on the ship and go join Conan. He seemed really relaxed, even after Conan closed communications(I'm assuming he did because Heiji didn't react to all the "stuff" happening.) to fully know. So with that, again, I can't see him giving Conan the Haibara Emergency Card.

He has to appear relaxed because he can't give the impression that he's hiding something or has a reason to worry.  Everyone's eyes are on him, he has to stay the relaxed and I-was-Kudo-for-fun-only detective because Kudo Shinichi is suppose to be dead.

Since you said it might be a translation error I'll dig up the Japanese raw when I have time xD.  But the "I can't let Kudou face those guys all alone" part makes sense.  Conan sends Heiji into sea while he's doing something (and he's not telling what).

I'm not 100% sure why Heiji did what he did.  Nor am I 100% sure why Haibara appeared like she did.  Technically speaking they both made the scenario more...complicated xD but

a) As he is on a boat he can't exactly rush over there without being suspicious.  Heiji did what he did so he'll have someone on -shore- to be with Conan.  
b) Haibara wanted Vermouth to -end things- with her.  She doesn't believe Conan capturing Vermouth will help much.

[TheBlind]

[quote="Nyarl"]
Here. He never outright says “fondness for his motherâ€

[sstimson]

mostly right but for two points

One I think it unlikely that until Conan visited his old house, he knew his mom was in Japan. After all if his mom had been a BO agent, he be dead. She shot him with a water gun. They explained they were worried about him. They then probably then made up the costume plan and got Heiji involved. I am very sure the ok seen on Conan phone was from Heiji.

Two involving Heiji again. Heiji might have seen where Conan hide the tracking Glasses. He makes sure that Haibara can get out and follow Conan. The reason I think she gets and used the glasses is the ease in which Haibara found Conan. I see no way Conan could know where Jodie was taking him.

Point 1- That is highly unlikely because that would mean Conan's entire plan was a hail mary. Hard to believe with the evidence that the events unfolded:

• Conan sees his mom
• Conan asks his mom if she's good enough to switch him out with Haibara and do the same for Heiji randomly
• Informs Heiji of the plan & Heiji replies with an Ok full of hearts..

That would mean Conan didn't have a plan up to that point. I think the evidence provides a better reason of what actually happened. Also your point doesn't hold because Heiji received the text while he and Kazuha had on their school attired and Conan visited his house at night. It would make more sense for Conan to text Heiji after his mom's original reply(which fits him wearing the school uniform) than for a)Heiji & Kazuha to be wearing their school clothing in the middle of the night b)Conan taking the risk of texting Heiji the day of the party without knowing if Heiji can do it(cold, family trip,etc., knowing it would take Yukiko 6 hours to do the disguise).

A better explanation to your point 1 would be that Conan expected his mom to arrive later or sooner back at home(which fits him looking at the house after the text). Which is why he grew suspicious when no one was in the house by nightfall but there where signs of it being used (we all know how Conan likes believe Yukiko wouldn't do childish things).

As for "they explained", not really. The explanation we saw was the one that Conan gave to Heiji which made it all seem like a big coincidence(which is what Conan wanted). If Conan told Heiji the true plan, you actually think Heiji would of let him do it or even help him do it?(he's using himself as bait when dealing with an organization full of skilled killers) Chances are not very likely, so giving him the bs to stop him from suspecting something makes perfect sense.

Point 2.1- I never said Conan knew where Jodie was taking him. I said he deduced that Jodie was setting up a trap for Dr. Araide using him(Haibara) as the bait.

Point 2.2 - Assuming Haibara just didn't keep the glasses hidden for insurance after the "locker incident",Heiji would never mess up Conan's plan like that. Be very out of character. If he had a problem with the plan, he would of confronted Conan about it instead of blinding him with an unexpected variable while his plan is in motion. Also Heiji is the type to not to think twice of placing himself in a dangerous situation but be hesitant when it comes to doing it to another. So he wouldn't leave the glasses for Haibara to trail Conan or break a lock Conan could notice later himself.

P.S.-As a Heiji fan, I would like to think that he doesn't make it a habit of replying with "OK" made of hearts..

Question Look at the following Pictures

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According to you: Conan allready has is mom in place at him place. But the above pictures clearly show he know something is wrong but not what. This happened after he got the note, and while Gin and Volka head to the Party. The next frame would be

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That Picture is where I got my ideas. One Panel shows Conan being shot.( by his mom with a water gun ). If he knew she was there, why would he have allowed himself to be shot?

The bottom Left shows Heiji saying this
"I forced open a lock and made sure, no matter what, she got to kudou's place. Though it might be better said as :she got to where Kudo would be.

I was wrong about Heiji placing the glasses where Haibara could find them. She hid them herself.

As for the time Heiji got the message could have been the next day. Conan could have sent it that night and Heiji found it the next Day.

More evidence: Heiji was surpised to find out that Conan's mom was at his house. According to your idea heiji should have not only known that  Conan's Mom was there, but was a great disguse artist. If he was going there to be disguised then he would have known both facts.

Heiji had to either know the true plan or at least suspect it. After all he forced the door to make sure Haibara could get out.

[Nyarl]

If you or anyone can find the Raws and translate them (no offense to the original translator since I know Japanese has many interpretations), it would clear all this up(or not change a thing since that's how it was written, open to interpretation).I would try to use the anime to check but the anime staff might just have interpreted the way I have and ran with that instead of Gosho wanted.  

Here a raw scan of the relevant page. I have most of the raw tankobon scans, so I can check specific things with the help of a dictionary. Someone who can actually follow the grammar (and the Kansai-ben) should look at this one, though.

[TheBlind]

Question Look at the following Pictures

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According to you: Conan allready has is mom in place at him place. But the above pictures clearly show he know something is wrong but not what. This happened after he got the note, and while Gin and Volka head to the Party. The next frame would be

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That Picture is where I got my ideas. One Panel shows Conan being shot.( by his mom with a water gun ). If he knew she was there, why would he have allowed himself to be shot?

Yukiko agreeing to Conan's request does not equal her being in the house and this is where you are confused. I have never said or even alluded that Conan knew Yukiko was in the house, there is no evidence to support that. But what most likely happened(and the evidence supports) is that Conan expected Yukiko to be in the house by nightfall or a later time, which is why he grew suspicious when the house had signs of use but it appearance that no one was inside. Again, I believe this fits perfectly with everything and makes more sense than Yukiko magically appearing at the house when the plot needed her.

As for the time Heiji got the message could have been the next day. Conan could have sent it that night and Heiji found it the next Day.

Why come up with that reason when the original reason fits better and makes more sense?

• Heiji receives the message after school the day before(fits with the time Conan had his cellphone out)
• Heiji agrees, heads over the next morning which fits with Haibara still being asleep
• Gives enough time for him and Conan to talk, get ready for the diguise(6 hrs for Heiji's), and for him to be at the pier by sundown

Your scenario can't explain all that and has no evidence to back it up(unless you are holding it from dramatic effect  ;D)

More evidence: Heiji was surpised to find out that Conan's mom was at his house. According to your idea heiji should have not only known that  Conan's Mom was there, but was a great disguse artist. If he was going there to be disguised then he would have known both facts.

You are confusing things again. You are assuming just because Conan texted Heiji for help, he told him the whole plan via text when Heiji himself shows that this was not the case. Conan just asked Heiji if he could help him by appearing as him somewhere. Heiji would have to be a mind reader to know that it somehow involved Yukiko or that she was a great disguise artist just from that request which fits with him being surprised when he got there.

Heiji had to either know the true plan or at least suspect it. After all he forced the door to make sure Haibara could get out.

I agree with you that Heiji suspected Conan was up to something greater than he lead on about(remeber Conan only told him the basics) but I'm on the side that Heiji never did anything to the door.

Here a raw scan of the relevant page. I have most of the raw tankobon scans, so I can check specific things with the help of a dictionary. Someone who can actually follow the grammar (and the Kansai-ben) should look at this one, though.

Thanks maybe someone who can handle the perfect Japanese(Heiji vs Jodie ) can clear up what Heiji actually meant and more importantly if the anime stayed loyal in regards to this scene.

[TheBlind]

i have another question, how on earth did heji deduce all that ?

in the episode, he just told how the trick was done, but he didn't tell how he found out the truth.
can someone explains that too 

By trick, do you mean the murder that took place on the ship?
It was a tag team between Heiji & Shinichi which answers why they were able to figure it out so quickly.