Who is the other woman?

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tiffishungry

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Re: Who is the other woman?

Post by tiffishungry »

i guess i can agree with you
just personally i HATE the ai and conan thing
so i am sorry
no matter how much it makes sense
i just can't go along with it
SORRY!
Miwakosato1412

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Re: Who is the other woman?

Post by Miwakosato1412 »

Hey this time wasnt the first time when akai spoke about an unknown women!
In the file he picked up mr black who was kidnapped he said: "But I want her to regret... that she ever left me...with bitter tears." At first I thought he means Akemi but she is dead and someone dead cant cry bitter tears, can he/she?
So maybe there is somebody we don't know! It is also possible that Bourbon is this woman because we dont know wether bourbon is a he or a she, do we?
I hope he does not mean haibara because that wouldnt be very interesting, would it? Because everybody wants to see her dead! (Gin, Vermouth and now even Akai???  ::) )

But maybe is "to love a woman" a metaphor! Maybe he only means that it is hard to love Akemi and to handle with the Organisation as sacrificially as a lover would?  (Hope u understand what I want to say)
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Re: Who is the other woman?

Post by Fenris »

HayleyStark wrote:
uytki wrote: The other is Jodie.
It's not so hard to understand.
Maybe, but how come he tells her in her face that he loves another woman at the same time? That would be cutting straight to core...but it won't be too surprising when you consider Akai's cold attitude.
I believe he's saying that he wants to get over his first love before he goes to another woman. He doesn't want to still think about a past relationship while with her.

It's like... you break up with a person, and you have a downtime before you run into another relationship in order to calm yourself and try to move on. You can't just be a playboy, that would make it seem like you didn't give a shit about your previous relationship. He's still in love with Akemi.
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Re: Who is the other woman?

Post by prince.ngoc »

This discussion is a bit girlish. Or should I say, more on the "emotional" side of things. :P (no offense girls)

Re: on how Conan protected Ai: doesn't mean that he *loves* her. Conan would go to great length to protect just about anyone (even criminals -- see the Moonlight sonata case in volume 8). Plus Ai is his only hope of becoming Shinichi again.
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Re: Who is the other woman?

Post by Miwakosato1412 »

prince.ngoc wrote:
Re: on how Conan protected Ai: doesn't mean that he *loves* her. Conan would go to great length to protect just about anyone (even criminals -- see the Moonlight sonata case in volume 8). Plus Ai is his only hope of becoming Shinichi again.

Ur so right! Conan dont love ai... i think... but it is possible that she loves him! (btw i dont like Kudo x Miyano...)
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Re: Who is the other woman?

Post by Rellik »

the other woman is Ran

i mean how many woman do we kno tat Akai has met? if its not Jodie then its Ran, Ai just dsnt cut it.

or it could be Vermouth ;) tho its like impossible....
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prince.ngoc wrote: This discussion is a bit girlish. Or should I say, more on the "emotional" side of things. :P (no offense girls)

Re: on how Conan protected Ai: doesn't mean that he *loves* her. Conan would go to great length to protect just about anyone (even criminals -- see the Moonlight sonata case in volume 8). Plus Ai is his only hope of becoming Shinichi again.

Love wasn't the issue here, tiffishungry stated that Conan has never put himself in danger for Haibara and I showed otherwise. Also, in the Moonlight Sonata case, Conan tried to convince the culprit to leave with him while the fire was still manageable, he was never in immediate danger. He only would of been in danger if he actually fought and went back inside to save the culprit but he didn't, which shows he only goes to great lengths for certain people(Though he still feels guilt for not noticing that he drove the culprit into that corner).

Also what is the deal with this "Conan only has Ai around because she is his cure" thing spreading? ???
It's not even worth proving wrong.
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Re: Who is the other woman?

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Well Conan always protect people who are in danger, and i think he's sorry that she (haibara) always think about the B.O, he wants her to move forward and live a normal life , Haibara is a great friend of him and he get on well with her more than Ayumi,Genta and Mitsuhiko because they have close ages! i don't know why SOME people mistake it for love,...
as for Shuichi's two loves they are undoubtly Akemi and Jodie,!!! the thought of Ran was cool XD
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Re: Who is the other woman?

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Ran wrote:
Well Conan always protect people who are in danger, and i think he's sorry that she (haibara) always think about the B.O, he wants her to move forward and live a normal life , Haibara is a great friend of him and he get on well with her more than Ayumi,Genta and Mitsuhiko because they have close ages! i don't know why SOME people mistake it for love,...
as for Shuichi's two loves they are undoubtly Akemi and Jodie,!!! the thought of Ran was cool XD
Didn't I cover this with you in a another topic a long time ago?
The evidence is there and one example is episode 335. When Yukiko tells Conan that she know Haibara likes him, Conan tries to confront her later that night and chickens out at the last moment. If it was another girl(other than Ran) I doubt his huge ego would let him get cold feet like that. Gosho knows how to sell books and by providing small clues like these, the Haibara vs. Ran battle will continue...even if it you don't like it. :P.. ;D
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Re: Who is the other woman?

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TheBlind wrote:
the Haibara vs. Ran battle will continue...even if it you don't like it. :P.. ;D
I know and that's whats making it interesting  ;D
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Re: Who is the other woman?

Post by happyan »

Jodie,exactly!
In File 677,very clearly!
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Re: Who is the other woman?

Post by Rellik »

Ran wrote:
TheBlind wrote:
the Haibara vs. Ran battle will continue...even if it you don't like it. :P.. ;D
I know and that's whats making it interesting  ;D


everyone knows who's gonna end up getting hurt in the end  ;)
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Re: Who is the other woman?

Post by LDCF »

uytki wrote: The other is Jodie.
It's not so hard to understand.
I can't think of anybody else but Jodie. Because when Akai "died", she's the one who's mostly affected. :D
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