Detective Conan Files 801-803 Discussion Thread: Domestic Vi

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Who is Bourbon?

Okiya Subaru
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Amuro Tooru who is not Scar Akai
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Masumi Sera
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Scar Akai who is not Amuro Tooru
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Scar Akai aka Amuro Tooru
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Conan
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sstimson
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AICHAN wrote:
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LOL yeah I hope Gosho will make a flashback on Shuichi and Sera when they were younger^^I'm sure their relationship will be interesting and funny,since they are so different...
I think a 12 year-old Sera and 22 year-old Akai can make a lovely scene ^^
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BTW I would be annoyed if Sera fell in love with Amuro...I'm tired with all the Gundam references...Sera is better alone^^
Totally agree ;)

The cover of this chap is really annoying! "Bourbon is on his/her move! Who is he/she really?" >< Like he's teasing us :((
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Sera: "I've got things to do...and Kogoro's apprentice seems to be taking a day off from Poirot today anyway...Next time though, why don't you show me some photo albums and we can have a nice long chat! Like about your boyfriend...!"
Dun Dun Dun.  ::)
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Wakarimashita wrote:
Spoiler: File 801 - English Spoilers - Courtesy of Zenthisoror from the DCTP spoilers c-box (and Knightus for the title)
"The person who never laughs"
The Professor and the Detective Boys are in the car. They've been invited round to somebody's house.

Mitsuhiko: "Aren't we lucky to get invited round by some people we met at a campsite?"

Ayumi: "Yeah! And all we did was give them some rice."

Haibara: "Well, actually it was because a certain smebody got abducted that the day we went camping got moved around...and we managed to meet the couple..."

Conan: "Well, what could I do? Anyway, why did you come after me as well? You could've left the dangerous stuff to the Professor and Subaru..."

Haibara: "Well, it was Subaru who told me to come too...and anyway, I just couldn't stay at home...thinking about how I might miss your agonising death if I stayed and waited around."

Conan: "Oh, right...but, hey, isn't this the first time you've called him 'Subaru'? Have you finally got used to him?"

Haibara: (Remembers...) There's no need for that face...I won't let them get away.

Mitsuhiko: "Who are you talking to?"Haibara: It's not like that...

Conan get's a phone call.

It's Sera: "Heeeey! Conan, wassup!"

Sera: "That voice just then...is that the Haibara girl?"

Ayumi: "If it's Ran, can I speak to her too?"

Conan: "Er...which voice do you mean?"

Sera: "Nah, don't worry about it. I'm just heading to the Agency at the moment...Why don't you bring her as well?"

"Sorry, going to a barbecue," Conan switches off the phone.

Ran: "Oh yeah, he did mention that he was eating out for lunch..."

Sera: "Why didn't you tell me earlier?"

Sonoko: "Don't tell me you're targetting the little four-eyed squirt..." (Shotacon...)

Sera: "Well...erm...I wanted to meet this Amuro guy as well..."

Ran: "Oh I see...I guess it was dark at the time...and our interviews with the police were separate weren't they?"

Sera: "All that aside, have you ever met her? This Haibara kid?"

Ran: "You mean Ai-chan?"

Sonoko: "I don't like her very much..."

Sera: "What's she like?"

Ran: "She's a little odd, but she's sweet."

Sonoko: "Let's put it this way, she's just like if you took an antisocial grown-up woman and shrunk her down."

Sera: "Like a grown-up woman?"

Ran: "Yeah! Sometime's she makes these really mature comments..."

Sonoko: "She overlaps with the four-eyed squirt quite a lot...but it's not as though she's a Holmes freak..."

Ran: "You've only just met him so you wouldn't know, but Conan, just like Shinichi, is a massive Holmes fan..."

Sera: (I knew that...I've known that for a long time...)

When Conan and co. get to the house they've been invited to, a person in a costume jumps out and greets them with, "Happy Halloween!"

The couple are Konno Takuji and Sumika, 34 and 32 respectively...

"Didn't I tell you so? That is would go down a scream!"

They have a barbecue in the garden...

Sumika: "It's so much fun having lunch with kids...oh if only there were kids always around...then my husband's bed-hopping tendencies might decrease..."

Takuji: "Hey Sumika! Do you know where my phone's gone?"

Sumika: "No idea whatsoever! Don't tell me you dropped it in some cabaret club again..."

Takuji: "That time was...hey, you looked in my phone then and did something didn't you?"

Sumika: "Of course! I sent every woman sending you a funny message with my own message - "Die! You sneaking, thieving pussy!"

Takuji: "So that's why they've replying recently..."

Sumika: "So that's why you've been coming home late recently..."

Professor: "Erm...excuse me..."

The couple: "I'm sorry...we're always like this...Don't take any notice..."

Takuji: "Anyway, please help me look for my phone! I'm expecting a message from my section head...Could you try calling it with your phone? I can try looking for it by the sound..."

Sumika: "I haven't been able to find my phone since this morning...I'm sure it must be somewhere in the living room..."

The couple go into the living room from the garden...

In front of the Agency...

Sonoko: "What? You're going home already? Come on, come inside!"

Sera: "I've got things to do...and Kogoro's apprentice seems to be taking a day off from Poirot today anyway...Next time though, why don't you show me some photo albums and we can have a nice long chat! Like about your boyfriend...!"

Ran: "Whaaaaaaat?!"

Sonoko: "You're so bright and optimistic, Sera!"

Sera: "Really? Well, there used to be this person in the past who never laughed...I decided that some way or another I'd make him laugh...and maybe from that..."

She spots something and bursts into a run...

Ran: "What's the matter?"

Sera: "I thought...An old acquaintance...was there..." (Of course he/she wouldn't be here...)

From the shadows, a man with a cap, a scar on his right cheek and eyes like Sera peers after her.

Ayumi discovers a phone buzzing away under the garden bench. She goes to deliver it to the couple...She witnesses Sumika waving around a blade...

"I can't forgive you! I'[ll kill you! Die!" She attacks Takuji...Takuji's on trying to fend her off from the floor...

Blood draining from her face, Ayumi runs to Conan and co. "Guys, help! The wife just got a knife and...She said she'd kill him..."

They run to try and stop the murder, but on arrival they see Sumika stabbed through the right of her chest and fallen to the floor, and Takuji sitting and looking on, with his right hand covered in blood..."

The end!

wow so long :o
thanks for doing this epic work Zenthisoror


regarding the case  
situation is defintely going bad for the guy

regarding "akai is the person who  never laughs"
if he never laughed then how could he managed to hook up two hot girls and made them fall in love with him.
Spoiler: proof that akia laughs
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briggettkylie wrote:
Spoiler: File 801 - English Spoilers - Courtesy of Zenthisoror from the DCTP spoilers c-box (and Knightus for the title)
Haibara: "Well, actually it was because a certain smebody got abducted that the day we went camping got moved around...and we managed to meet the couple..."

Conan: "Well, what could I do? Anyway, why did you come after me as well? You could've left the dangerous stuff to the Professor and Subaru..."

Haibara: "Well, it was Subaru who told me to come too...and anyway, I just couldn't stay at home...thinking about how I might miss your agonising death if I stayed and waited around."
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Thank you! And lol, love that part! xD Gotta love Haibara and her cursing words! <3 ;D
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LOL I just love that part XDDD Haibara always makes me laugh with her words... ;D
I can't wait to see her interactions with Sera^^
BTW I didn't know that Sonoko doesn't like Haibara...Her description of Ai is so negative... :-\

@kuro_shiro:Maybe Akai stopped laughing after Akemi's death...I can't imagine that Akai never laughed in his entire life :|
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Re: Detective Conan Files 801-80X Discussion Thread

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S.Vineyard wrote:
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Sera: "I've got things to do...and Kogoro's apprentice seems to be taking a day off from Poirot today anyway...Next time though, why don't you show me some photo albums and we can have a nice long chat! Like about your boyfriend...!"
Dun Dun Dun.  ::)
What do ya mean?
AICHAN wrote:
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BTW I didn't know that Sonoko doesn't like Haibara...Her description of Ai is so negative... :-\

@kuro_shiro:Maybe Akai stopped laughing after Akemi's death...I can't imagine that Akai never laughed in his entire life :|
Well Sonoko is not the kind of thinking deeply like Ran so if she doesn't like Haibara she will speak it out :D How could she like that kind of girl, cold, and even not polite toward 'adults'?

He's a little cold even before Akemi died, and after her death even colder. (James said that, didn't he?) I wonder if Akemi was the only one who could make him laugh ^^
kuro_shiro wrote:
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regarding "akai is the person who  never laughs"
if he never laughed then how could he managed to hook up two hot girls and made them fall in love with him.
Well as I see, he smiles (a lot i guess), but doesn't laugh :D What if this is the reason why those 2 fell for him '___' kind of 'cool' guy lol

If Sera couldn't ride a motorbike, I could think of her as Akemi in disguise ;)
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I got it.

Sera is a Shinichi fangirl, she found out what happened and is now trying to hit on him in his shrunken form. Clever.

Anyway, are we Abs.olutely sure (meaning: has it been specified somewhere in the manga) that in ep 338 Akai is tailing Haibara? It would be kind of repetitive, but maybe he's thinking this little child is resembling the one he met years before, meaning the Kudo and Akai families have been in contact for some time. That would explain why Sera seems to know Shinichi well. There would also be a chance she also met Ran when they were children, hence why she's so attached to her.
I couldn't help but fantasize a bit, considering Gosho is fond of childhood friends :D

It also wouldn't be all that strange Shinichi doesn't remember Sera, they were children after all.
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Only bit I got of that:
Mr_Useless wrote:
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...is now trying to hit on him in his shrunken form.
...
Terry Pratchett wrote: The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
bash7353 wrote:I kind of always assumed that Haneda's parents might've had names.
Spoiler: Box full of stuff
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kuro_shiro wrote:
Spoiler: proof that akia laughs
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...I think you've confused the word 'laugh' with 'smirking evilly and looking suspicious/badass'.
Mr_Useless wrote:
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Anyway, are we Abs.olutely sure (meaning: has it been specified somewhere in the manga) that in ep 338 Akai is tailing Haibara? It would be kind of repetitive, but maybe he's thinking this little child is resembling the one he met years before, meaning the Kudo and Akai families have been in contact for some time. That would explain why Sera seems to know Shinichi well. There would also be a chance she also met Ran when they were children, hence why she's so attached to her.
I couldn't help but fantasize a bit, considering Gosho is fond of childhood friends :D

It also wouldn't be all that strange Shinichi doesn't remember Sera, they were children after all.
Spoiler:
This would also make sense. It is likely (probably even more so) that Haibara was the one Akai was tailing and it all does fall into place. However, there is the fact that Gosho likes to make those 'think this obvious thing while the real motive is actually this small thing!' moments. So the fact that Conan is in the picture means that the possibility, though small, can't be thoroughly denied. It might make sense, too, that maybe Yuusaku was referring to the Akai family when he said he had an acquaintance higher up.

There's also the coincidence of Sera being in America since three years ago while at the same time that's when Shinichi's parents moved overseas. As Richard Moore would say "That's too coincidental to be a coincidence"  :-X
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leokiko wrote:
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Sera: Shinichi's sister. That would be cool :D
it would be nice but not possible.
Spoiler:
Another possibility is that Sera knows Shinichi from when he was younger or if she's Akai's sister, she referred to Akai for being a Holmes fan or for not smiling
sonoci wrote:
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Uh, am I the only one not thinking the same as everyone else for the blush thing? From the translations we've gotten, I took the blush as Sera's reaction to Sonoko teasing her about wanting to use Ran as an excuse to visit Conan (and judging by the fact that Sonoko secretly thought "Shotacon" *or "Pedokon" as the original translation was* that Sonoko said it very mockingly, like she would normally while teasing Ran about Shinichi.)

I personally think the whole Amuro thing was just to get off the subject and embarrassment (maybe she likes Shinichi, I dunno. It could work I guess, what with him being a 'Silver Bullet' type like her brother. ...Though, she seems to openly...'ship' Ran and Shinichi so I'm not really sure.  :| maybe she wants a threesome?

Also, Sera's comment about knowing Conan/Shinichi was a Holmes fan for a long time...that is confusing the heck out of me. Everything with her being Akai's sister is adding up and making sense...but where would she have known Shinichi before?  ???
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I would also like to think the blush isn't related to Amuro. The guy is like 29 and Sera is 17-18. Sera liking Shinichi instead sounds funnier and more interesting to me. The hug she gave him could point that way
sonoci wrote:
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This would also make sense. It is likely (probably even more so) that Haibara was the one Akai was tailing and it all does fall into place. However, there is the fact that Gosho likes to make those 'think this obvious thing while the real motive is actually this small thing!' moments. So the fact that Conan is in the picture means that the possibility, though small, can't be thoroughly denied. It might make sense, too, that maybe Yuusaku was referring to the Akai family when he said he had an acquaintance higher up.

There's also the coincidence of Sera being in America since three years ago while at the same time that's when Shinichi's parents moved overseas. As Richard Moore would say "That's too coincidental to be a coincidence"  :-X
that could also be true. And that time when the classmates mentined Shinichi, she was probably recalling knowing his familiy(name)
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Spoiler: Crack Theory *DON'T TAKE SERIOUSLY*
Sera thinks that Conan is Akai shrunk. OF COURSE

Though now with SA appearing, her theories have been messed up! Now she must figure out who Conan-
Okay I'm done :|
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sonoci wrote: Sera thinks that Conan is Akai shrunk. OF COURSE

Though now with SA appearing, her theories have been messed up! Now she must figure out who Conan-
Okay I'm done :|
Based on Sera's thoughts about Shinichi in the latest chapter, it seems she has known/strongly suspected Conan is Shinichi for a while now. If you think about it, before she saw Scar Akai, she might have wondered if Akai had "height issues" like Conan which is why he vanished.
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
sonoci wrote:
Spoiler: Crack Theory *DON'T TAKE SERIOUSLY*
Sera thinks that Conan is Akai shrunk. OF COURSE

Though now with SA appearing, her theories have been messed up! Now she must figure out who Conan-
Okay I'm done :|
Spoiler: Sonoci's idea is not so crack
Based on Sera's thoughts about Shinichi in the latest chapter, it seems she has known/strongly suspected Conan is Shinichi for a while now. If you think about it, before she saw Scar Akai, she might have wondered if Akai had "height issues" like Conan which is why he vanished.
Spoiler: Nah that theory is crack
if sera thinks conan=akai then she have to  blind after all conan lacks bags under his eyes.
conan also does not resemble akai in any way.
and most important point ,conan is cute while i don't think akai is cute  after chekhov's laughing face of akai that gave me heart attack. i will never  consider him cute .

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kuro_shiro wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
sonoci wrote:
Spoiler: Crack Theory *DON'T TAKE SERIOUSLY*
Sera thinks that Conan is Akai shrunk. OF COURSE

Though now with SA appearing, her theories have been messed up! Now she must figure out who Conan-
Okay I'm done :|
Spoiler: Sonoci's idea is not so crack
Based on Sera's thoughts about Shinichi in the latest chapter, it seems she has known/strongly suspected Conan is Shinichi for a while now. If you think about it, before she saw Scar Akai, she might have wondered if Akai had "height issues" like Conan which is why he vanished.
Spoiler: Nah that theory is crack
if sera thinks conan=akai then she have to  blind after all conan lacks bags under his eyes.
conan also does not resemble akai in any way.
and most important point ,conan is cute while i don't think akai is cute   after chekhov's laughing face of akai that gave me heart attack. i will never  consider him cute .

Spoiler:
Have you seen Akai as a CHILD yet? '-'
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kuro_shiro wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
sonoci wrote:
Spoiler: Crack Theory *DON'T TAKE SERIOUSLY*
Sera thinks that Conan is Akai shrunk. OF COURSE

Though now with SA appearing, her theories have been messed up! Now she must figure out who Conan-
Okay I'm done :|
Spoiler: Sonoci's idea is not so crack
Based on Sera's thoughts about Shinichi in the latest chapter, it seems she has known/strongly suspected Conan is Shinichi for a while now. If you think about it, before she saw Scar Akai, she might have wondered if Akai had "height issues" like Conan which is why he vanished.
Spoiler: Nah that theory is crack
if sera thinks conan=akai then she have to  blind after all conan lacks bags under his eyes.
conan also does not resemble akai in any way.
and most important point ,conan is cute while i don't think akai is cute   after chekhov's laughing face of akai that gave me heart attack. i will never  consider him cute .

Spoiler: You're forgetting something
Conan wears glasses, and as the laws of fiction go, that's the perfect disguise!  Sera has just figured out that Akai would use glasses to disguise his identity :P
Conan is a kid, if Akai was a kid, he could be cute as well.
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I think Gosho try to cheer the Okiya=Bourbon theory with Ai addressing Okiya with his first name.
Especially with Vermouth talking about gained trust in the previous chapter and then Ai suddenly trusting Okiya and Scar Akai's appearance in this chapter.
And I can understand why Gosho want to write this Gundam Fanfiction. He likes Gundam very much and he's a writer, so...
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