Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 818-824 "Mystery Tr

[fidu21]

i'm sure of it now, Subaro is hyping Akai

[mihai]

Sera's "I thought you were dead" scene occurred when Vermouth was in the disguise, didn't it? Bourbon mentions that while he was the one in the disguise he came to the conclusion that Akai was really did. I'm sure Sera's words were even more confirmation but we don't know if he was told about it before confronting Sherry.

Vermouth sent most likely to Bourbon a message after she knocked Sera out. I believe Bourbon told her to appear in front of her to observe what she knows about Akai

[no one]

hello guys, I have been reading your discussion for a while and I'm very impressed by your accurate deductions.  I have been wondering about few things though :did Conan know that this train trip will be B.O confrontation? Because he hasn't seen the video and I don't think he will let Haibara and everyone-especially the D.B who appeared in the video-face such great danger,moreover he seemed shocked when he saw this message which I think is the video filmed by Mitsuhiko.http://www.dctp.ws/V77-Reader/V77-11Rea ... ahxCvS.png
Another point : I think it is logical to assume that Bourbon or Gin will investigate the destroyed carriage,if they didn't find sherry's body this might lead them to investigate people around Conan,How can Conan fool them??
BTW, why was Sera shocked in this scene:http://www.dctp.ws/V77-Reader/V77-11Rea ... ahxCvS.png   

[jalex26]

Because he hasn't seen the video and I don't think he will let Haibara and everyone-especially the D.B who appeared in the video-face such great danger,moreover he seemed shocked when he saw this message which I think is the video filmed by Mitsuhiko  

Conan already knew about the video before riding the train. Do you remember when Okiya hacked Kogorou's computer? Knowing Akai, he probably informed Conan about it since it's an FBI-related information.

[User 4869]

Conan show shock expression when they inform him about the video, so I don't think he know it before boarding the train. I', not sure but I think Okiya probably plan to fake Sherry dead so he must let Haibara on the train to trick Vermouth..

Sera shocks because she recognizes Shiho, but I don't know why.

Vermouth say Sherry has been reduce to dust. The bomb seem to particularly extreme. There will be no surprise (much) If they can't find the body

[Sake]

Agree with User4869... the whole plan (with Kid as well), was probably set up incidentally by Conan on the fly. He never knew that there was a video of Adult Haibara on the loose. I'm sure Sera has met Haibara/Sherry in the past, especially when we know that Akai was once 'connected' to Akemi.

Oh, and btw, I'm new in this forum... that I forgot to make proper intro and just barging in in the middle of discussion. Sorry about that. Looking forward to share thoughts and brainstorm about what's happening the Conan's world with y'all! Yoroshiku.... 

[jalex26]

Conan show shock expression when they inform him about the video, so I don't think he know it before boarding the train. I', not sure but I think Okiya probably plan to fake Sherry dead so he must let Haibara on the train to trick Vermouth..

Then who might be the sender who sent the video (if it is really a video) to Conan? Could it be
Okiya? Because in this part http://www.dctp.ws/V78-Reader/V78-3Read/V78-3/xFile820_003.png.pagespeed.ic.O4VJsLhO0c.png it was shown Conan receiving that message.

[User 4869]

Okiya is the sender. He could have withhold the information from Conan to use his plan.

I'm sure Sera has met Haibara/Sherry in the past

Haibara seem don't recognize Sera. but Sera seem to know Shiho. I'm not sure about their past.

[El Huesudo II]

Conan's plan within the train required preparation on everyone's part (except for Kaito Kid). I doubt Conan ignored the existence of the video.

Also, there's no indication of what was in the message Conan received. It could have been "V & B are on the move! Stay alert and begin the plan! Get everyone to safety!" or something, for all we know.

[Sake]

I'm sure Sera has met Haibara/Sherry in the past

Haibara seem don't recognize Sera. but Sera seem to know Shiho. I'm not sure about their past.

Well, 'meet' doesn't actually refer to 'know'...
Perhaps she 'met' her on one of Akai's case file? I'm refering to the theory that she must've seen her photo in Akai's belonging somewhere.

Conan's plan within the train required preparation on everyone's part (except for Kaito Kid). I doubt Conan ignored the existence of the video.

I think the one that has been prepared is the whole trapping the BO, since Conan seemed very surprised to hear about the video.
Then again, there's a possibility that he might have known about the video from Okiya before hand. Well, let's just see the explanation in the next file

[AICHAN]

Conan's plan within the train required preparation on everyone's part (except for Kaito Kid). I doubt Conan ignored the existence of the video.

Also, there's no indication of what was in the message Conan received. It could have been "V & B are on the move! Stay alert and begin the plan! Get everyone to safety!" or something, for all we know.

That's what I think too...

[mihai]

Conan show shock expression when they inform him about the video, so I don't think he know it before boarding the train. I', not sure but I think Okiya probably plan to fake Sherry dead so he must let Haibara on the train to trick Vermouth..

Then who might be the sender who sent the video (if it is really a video) to Conan? Could it be
Okiya? Because in this part http://www.dctp.ws/V78-Reader/V78-3Read/V78-3/xFile820_003.png.pagespeed.ic.O4VJsLhO0c.png it was shown Conan receiving that message.

if I remember well, the DB mention themselves(especially Mitsuhiko, the guilty one) the video they sent to Mouri's PC and even more later on, that the Sweeping Kogoro uploaded that to the internet to ask people about Shiho. Also, after he hears about Mitsuhiko taking and sending the video to Mouri, he shouts a bit as well, making Haibara suspicious about the possible BO being after her

[El Huesudo II]

Conan show shock expression when they inform him about the video, so I don't think he know it before boarding the train. I', not sure but I think Okiya probably plan to fake Sherry dead so he must let Haibara on the train to trick Vermouth..

Then who might be the sender who sent the video (if it is really a video) to Conan? Could it be
Okiya? Because in this part http://www.dctp.ws/V78-Reader/V78-3Read/V78-3/xFile820_003.png.pagespeed.ic.O4VJsLhO0c.png it was shown Conan receiving that message.

if I remember well, the DB mention themselves(especially Mitsuhiko, the guilty one) the video they sent to Mouri's PC and even more later on, that the Sweeping Kogoro uploaded that to the internet to ask people about Shiho. Also, after he hears about Mitsuhiko taking and sending the video to Mouri, he shouts a bit as well, making Haibara suspicious about the possible BO being after her

I reread both cases last night and I don't recall anything about that. I only recall Mitsuhiko mentoning that to Sera in the cabin trap case, and to Agasa, Ran, and Sonoko in the Mystery Train case, but Conan wasn't around at the time.

Maybe I missed something? Can you share a link?

[lethiminhkhuyen]

The more I think about Kid having one of Conan's phones the more I think about how he's going to mess with it seeing as he's ticked off at Conan.  Conan's going have all his ring tones messed with.

That'd be hilarious.

Ran tries to call Shinichi and suddenly "LAAAAAADIIIIIIIIIIES AAAAAAND GENTLEMEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNN"

I think that Kid would probably say "Your bust, waist and hip size please"
Anyway, did anyone also notice that the drug that Haibara mentioned as something that shouldn't be make is the antidote for APTX http://www.dctp.ws/V78-Reader/V78-4Read ... sLhO0c.png   because at that time she got in her hand the antidote not the APTX and she said that in order to avoid unnecessary trouble for her friend she has to take it, so I wonder if this is some new hint from Gosho-sensei.
I'm also so worried now about Okiya, because rather than Amuro I think Okiya should vanish from Shinichi's house. After all he was there in order to protect Haibara so now, when officially for BO Sherry is dead he has no reason to stay. In additional Shinichi's house is next to prof. Agasa's house so if Amuro will investigate the Akai's dead again there is possibility that he also will find out that Sherry is Haibara.
And sorry for my English.

[jalex26]

Conan show shock expression when they inform him about the video, so I don't think he know it before boarding the train. I', not sure but I think Okiya probably plan to fake Sherry dead so he must let Haibara on the train to trick Vermouth..

Then who might be the sender who sent the video (if it is really a video) to Conan? Could it be
Okiya? Because in this part http://www.dctp.ws/V78-Reader/V78-3Read/V78-3/xFile820_003.png.pagespeed.ic.O4VJsLhO0c.png it was shown Conan receiving that message.

if I remember well, the DB mention themselves(especially Mitsuhiko, the guilty one) the video they sent to Mouri's PC and even more later on, that the Sweeping Kogoro uploaded that to the internet to ask people about Shiho. Also, after he hears about Mitsuhiko taking and sending the video to Mouri, he shouts a bit as well, making Haibara suspicious about the possible BO being after her

Conan wasn't in the room when Mitsuhiko talked about the video. http://www.dctp.ws/V78-Reader/V78-3Read/V78-3/xFile820_014.png.pagespeed.ic.ogoHNxeuoG.png

Maybe you're talking about this http://www.dctp.ws/V78-Reader/V78-3Read/V78-3/xFile820_004.png.pagespeed.ic.gi2OJa_TZv.png 
It was right after Conan received an unknown message, which happened way before Mitsuhiko even mentioned anything about the video.