Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,070-107X

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Whether Wakita crosses Rumi or not, but he must trigger Ai's radar. If that doesn't happen then, ...meh. And it's too soon to comment on the writing, of setting up the Wakita X Rumi; it might turn out to be just cold stares back and forth between them. Would be interesting to see if the capsule part is talked in front of him, and his reaction to Akemi's name. Not counting on him recognising Shiho at once. File has become much interesting, even for something small as finding a capsule.
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I know we shouldn't put too much attention to the magazine promotion for upcoming files, but the first one got me thinking of one possibility, although very unlikely, I would still like to put it out here

The preview for file 1070 was "In the new series, Haibara Ai who is deeply connected to the Akai Family appears! A shadow draws near Conan and Haibara who came to Teitan Elementary...?"

So with the Akai Family mentioned, yet when know nothing about them was mention in the two chapter that were released so far, is it possible that what Akemi has put in the time capsule was related to them to some extent.

For example, since we believe that the two sister don't know that Dai Marabushi ( Akai Shuichi) is related to them, it won't be so direct. So maybe, Akemi had a note or something telling Shiho that she remembered that they had an aunt, their mother's sister, and she is trying to track some information about her, maybe even know her name, since Akemi was old enough to understand the convo between her parents mentioning a sister to Elena.

Maybe Akemi knew that she has an Aunt called Mary, without the family name or much information, and wanted her sister to know that, so if in the future she met someone with that name or something, they can connect as family.

I know it's highly unlikely, but I can't think of anything else besides that, as Akemi is 11-13 years old there, and I wonder what she had to say for her sister that she had to include in the Capsule instead of telling it to her sister directly or indirectly.
What were the odds of Shiho finding out about the capsule ever if she never shrank and met that guy who thought she was Akemi's younger sister.

Anyway, I would like to hear your thoughts about this, or any ideas of what Akemi has to tell shiho in this weird capsule thing!

Don't get me wrong, this case is super exciting because it's about Akemi & Shiho (Haibara) , with Rumi and Wakita in it, I'm over the moon, but the thing with Akemi is so weird, just saying.
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kkuuddoo wrote:
April 20th, 2021, 3:53 am
I know we shouldn't put too much attention to the magazine promotion for upcoming files, but the first one got me thinking of one possibility, although very unlikely, I would still like to put it out here

The preview for file 1070 was "In the new series, Haibara Ai who is deeply connected to the Akai Family appears! A shadow draws near Conan and Haibara who came to Teitan Elementary...?"

So with the Akai Family mentioned, yet when know nothing about them was mention in the two chapter that were released so far, is it possible that what Akemi has put in the time capsule was related to them to some extent.

For example, since we believe that the two sister don't know that Dai Marabushi ( Akai Shuichi) is related to them, it won't be so direct. So maybe, Akemi had a note or something telling Shiho that she remembered that they had an aunt, their mother's sister, and she is trying to track some information about her, maybe even know her name, since Akemi was old enough to understand the convo between her parents mentioning a sister to Elena.

Maybe Akemi knew that she has an Aunt called Mary, without the family name or much information, and wanted her sister to know that, so if in the future she met someone with that name or something, they can connect as family.

I know it's highly unlikely, but I can't think of anything else besides that, as Akemi is 11-13 years old there, and I wonder what she had to say for her sister that she had to include in the Capsule instead of telling it to her sister directly or indirectly.
What were the odds of Shiho finding out about the capsule ever if she never shrank and met that guy who thought she was Akemi's younger sister.

Anyway, I would like to hear your thoughts about this, or any ideas of what Akemi has to tell shiho in this weird capsule thing!

Don't get me wrong, this case is super exciting because it's about Akemi & Shiho (Haibara) , with Rumi and Wakita in it, I'm over the moon, but the thing with Akemi is so weird, just saying.
I had mentioned exactly this on Discord since the start of the case and brought up that possibility of Akemi's message progressing the story as a secondary purpose (while the primary purpose is a wholesome connection-building between Shiho & Akemi). This would fall in line with the previous Miyano recording, where we get Silver Bullet research reveal as a secondary purpose.

I don't think it's unlikely at all, though I could also easily see the end of the last chapter just spotlighting Wakita vs Rumi. We might mirror Elena's tape, where Haibara hears the message and we only listen to parts of it, and then we learn much later in the future that Haibara secretly harbored a continuation to Akemi's message about their aunt's family.
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1,072 spoiler pics are now out.

We're in for a 4 week break until SS Issue 26—we can expect 1,073 spoilers around May 21st.
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DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
April 23rd, 2021, 5:42 am
1,072 spoiler pics are now out.

We're in for a 4 week break until SS Issue 26—we can expect 1,073 spoilers around May 21st.
Yup... saw this one posted up in youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugVBcH01t-g
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DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
April 23rd, 2021, 5:42 am
1,072 spoiler pics are now out.
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It seems that most of the fans agreed that Wakasa is Asaka and their ultimate argument is that Wakasa touched the window's glass with her hand making the infamous Asaka pose, which is super silly. It's the opposite thing, that pannel seems more of a red herring than a Wakasaka hint. Gosho said that he will be revealing the truth about Wakasa bit by bit so I don't see him revealing the mystery with very obvious hints before the reveal that is supposed to be surprising in one way or another.
We don't have enough hints to be confident about saying that Wakasa is Asaka, yet.

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HatiMMOS wrote:
April 26th, 2021, 2:40 am
We don't have enough hints to be confident about saying that Wakasa is Asaka, yet.
Indeed , Wakasa is Asaka
The killer in the files 1067 1068 1069 , her name is Shamoto Tsu(Rumi) and she resembles Iori Muga in appearance and age as well .

Gosho hints that Wakasa (Rumi) is Asaka , the bodyguard of the wealthy Amanda as Iori Muga , the bodyguard of the wealthy Momiji .

In addition to the shogi stone , which indicates that she was present at the crime scene . I don't know the source of Hotta Gaito's information , but he said Asaka is a woman and Mary was not surprised .
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Great, another retcon of the miyanos past.
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Andarer wrote:
May 3rd, 2021, 4:18 am
Spoiler:
Great, another retcon of the miyanos past.
What do you mean?
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Max1996 wrote:
May 3rd, 2021, 5:01 am
Andarer wrote:
May 3rd, 2021, 4:18 am
Spoiler:
Great, another retcon of the miyanos past.
What do you mean?
Well I'm on 1070 and haven't seen the raws but
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it simply doesn't fit to make it so that Akemi was in the exact same school as the detective boys and that there's alumni that knew her and would recognice her sister, and that she left a hidden message... for her sister? in a school that she probably wouldn't attend? even tho she had left tens of casettes for her?
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Andarer wrote:
May 3rd, 2021, 3:59 pm
Max1996 wrote:
May 3rd, 2021, 5:01 am
Andarer wrote:
May 3rd, 2021, 4:18 am
Spoiler:
Great, another retcon of the miyanos past.
What do you mean?
Well I'm on 1070 and haven't seen the raws but
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it simply doesn't fit to make it so that Akemi was in the exact same school as the detective boys and that there's alumni that knew her and would recognice her sister, and that she left a hidden message... for her sister? in a school that she probably wouldn't attend? even tho she had left tens of casettes for her?
I don't see what's wrong with it. The casettes were recorded when akemi was likely an adult? And by then, they've gone through a lot in the organization. while at the school, it wasn't that much of a hidden message, it was just a picture with a heartfelt cute letter to her sister. *I cried here* .Akemi was just an elementary kid. Though, it does surprise me that she's an alumni there, but it did say she was there for a short while - maybe she kept moving schools because of their parents work? - though by now, the DC universe is always somewhat linked to one another so it isnt that weird.
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Quinn wrote:
May 4th, 2021, 6:23 am
Andarer wrote:
May 3rd, 2021, 3:59 pm
Max1996 wrote:
May 3rd, 2021, 5:01 am
Andarer wrote:
May 3rd, 2021, 4:18 am
Spoiler:
Great, another retcon of the miyanos past.
What do you mean?
Well I'm on 1070 and haven't seen the raws but
Spoiler:
it simply doesn't fit to make it so that Akemi was in the exact same school as the detective boys and that there's alumni that knew her and would recognice her sister, and that she left a hidden message... for her sister? in a school that she probably wouldn't attend? even tho she had left tens of casettes for her?
I don't see what's wrong with it. The casettes were recorded when akemi was likely an adult? And by then, they've gone through a lot in the organization. while at the school, it wasn't that much of a hidden message, it was just a picture with a heartfelt cute letter to her sister. *I cried here* .Akemi was just an elementary kid. Though, it does surprise me that she's an alumni there, but it did say she was there for a short while - maybe she kept moving schools because of their parents work? - though by now, the DC universe is always somewhat linked to one another so it isnt that weird.
I'm sorry, but your incorrect about a few things ...
Since Their parents died when Shiho was still very young, the tapes would have been recorded before Elena's death, but they were kept somewhere.
I agree that the letter young Akemi wrote for her sister was really sweet, and its normal for someone her age to write something like that, hoping it will reach her sister one day, if possible.
It was also mentioned in this case that Akemi moved a lot because of the organization's orders, and not because her parents work, since they are already dead, and the BO are the people looking after/watching/sponsoring the two sisters.
The tapes could have been hidden somewhere, where adult akemi came across them one day, but decided to hide them instead of giving it to shiho personally, because she feared the BO wouldn't allow her/ or destroy the tapes fearing what they might carry of information about them or the research. The BO would want Shiho to be loyal, and maybe something her parents would say could change her mind, so she was left in the dark about who her parents really are most of her life.
Another possibility, is that Akemi knew about the tapes back when she was in this school, but knew it wasn't the right place/time to share them with shiho.
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Interesting thoughts here. Just read the file, bit late I know. Not really disappointed with 1072. Akemi's message seems perfectly fine, just what a 12 year old might write to her sis. But some things stand out like how much knowledge did Akemi have about the project of the BO she mentioned. She couldn't have known anything else besides that it is a secret project, because otherwise the BO wouldn't let her live free.
So Akemi hid the tapes, and now we find out she hid a message as well. Won't be suprised if she has hidden another message somewhere else. :P
Rumi's stare at the Wakita's back, suggests she recognises him or atleast she might have a hunch. I like how right now, there are so many things up in the air, disconnected and yet to be merged into one coherent picture. Like Conan, irrespective of his thoughts in 1072, would surely think twice about Haibara's radar going off. We had Amuro looking at Rumi's photo, thinking who knows what. And now we have Rumi with that Asaka pose.
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Reader wrote:
May 7th, 2021, 12:50 am

So Akemi hid the tapes, and now we find out she hid a message as well. Won't be suprised if she has hidden another message somewhere else. :P
Hmmmm, why not? ;D
Reader wrote:
May 7th, 2021, 12:50 am

Rumi's stare at the Wakita's back
Doubt
I don't think that's the real reason for her reaction, It needs to be something else, it might be something to do with the pizza delivery guy, maybe his uniform or the text on his back, or just the whole scene reminded her of a memory from the past.(X road)
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May 7th, 2021, 12:50 am

suggests she recognises him or atleast she might have a hunch.
That's how Gosho want us to think.
I'm calling it now, it's a baseless assumption but I trust Gosho:

Wakasa is NOT Asaka

And chapter 1072 solidifies it.
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May 7th, 2021, 12:50 am

I like how right now, there are so many things up in the air, disconnected and yet to be merged into one coherent picture.
Exciting, right? ;D
My favorite DC theories:
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-The real Anokata is the friends Conan made in his journey.
-Gosho and Akemi are actually alligators.
-Okino Yoko is BO.
-Wakita likes basketball.
-Every character in the show is actually Vermouth if you think about it.
-Amuro does not wake up at 5 am everyday.
-Korn is vegetarian.
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HatiMMOS wrote:
May 7th, 2021, 9:51 am
Reader wrote:
May 7th, 2021, 12:50 am

I like how right now, there are so many things up in the air, disconnected and yet to be merged into one coherent picture.
Exciting, right? ;D
Pfft... such as why Bourbon suddenly took interest in RUMI after the field-trip and how Wakita/RUM suddenly took interest in a missing shogi piece and even asking Conan about it to confirm whether he has any leads or not... would be weird if Bourbon actually reported back to RUM about potential Kohji killer spotted while he was at the ranch... now why would he do that really? But I do agree that RUMI staring back at Wakita's back may be a false alarm after-all he does have a silly disguise on even if she knew what RUM looks like... unless RUM used the same disguise 17 years ago? Once a sushi guy always a sushi guy? Pffttt..... ;D
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