Possible conflicts inside the Black Organization

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geetp007 wrote:
he did put a transmitter in black impact case which endangered kogoro at that time
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But it was mistakenly put at the shoes of Rena. What im trying to say is to put the transmitter on Gin or Vodka or someone in a cornered place like the fold of the hat of Gin or Vodka

Since it was on Rena's Shoes it was easily noticed


ah sorry. yeah it was by mistake but I don't think that conan will take such risks again
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I think Gin is quite loyal to Anokata. I think that based on how he talks about Anokata, and how he's doing his missions given to him by Anokata. If Gin would not be loyal to Anokata, he wouldn't really be trying to be that perfect in the missions.

Plus, Gin has a some freedom within the BO, being even able to kill other BO nicknamed people (like he tried to kill Vermouth). He must be super loyal to Anokata if he tries doing that without thinking about consequences (other BO members probably would be killed qithout a question if they did that, but looks like Gin would be able to avoid consequences).

About the main topic, I think there are conflicts within the BO. Gin doesn't like other members, and tries to kill them all (except Vodka). The Bourbon's hate towards Rye is well known among all BO members. Chanti and Korn blame Vermouth for killing Calvados. nIt wouldn't be a surprise if they would be secretly trying to kill each other. After all if one BO member is missing, their tasks &c are given to the other BO members who are becoming even more important now (as they have influence on greater amount of things now).
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Yeah he's kind of too loyal makes you wonder where that loyalty comes from and all. Maybe we'll find out when we learn who he really is.
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@k11ichi:-Yeah he's kind of too loyal makes you wonder where that loyalty comes from and all. Maybe we'll find out when we learn who he really is.
Just think that if Gin is loyal to someone then it must mean that anokata must be frightening and/or he must have sensitive information of gin which he must be threatening to reveal about gin
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@k11ichi:-Yeah he's kind of too loyal makes you wonder where that loyalty comes from and all. Maybe we'll find out when we learn who he really is.
Just think that if Gin is loyal to someone then it must mean that anokata must be frightening and/or he must have sensitive information of gin which he must be threatening to reveal about gin
Doubtful. If Gin would be blackmailed he would kill the person who is blackmailing him. Plus, if he would be blackmailed, he rather wouldn't risk wet actions (like killing 'boss' favorite').

For sure it comes down to a large sum of money, and perphaps Gin helped a couple of times when Anokata was in need, and that's why he's so high in the BO ranks, and that's why he has much more freedom than the others. He still respects anokata, because without respecting Anokata the stream of cash would be gone.
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Nemomon wrote:
geetp007 wrote:
@k11ichi:-Yeah he's kind of too loyal makes you wonder where that loyalty comes from and all. Maybe we'll find out when we learn who he really is.
Just think that if Gin is loyal to someone then it must mean that anokata must be frightening and/or he must have sensitive information of gin which he must be threatening to reveal about gin
Doubtful. If Gin would be blackmailed he would kill the person who is blackmailing him. Plus, if he would be blackmailed, he rather wouldn't risk wet actions (like killing 'boss' favorite').

For sure it comes down to a large sum of money, and perphaps Gin helped a couple of times when Anokata was in need, and that's why he's so high in the BO ranks, and that's why he has much more freedom than the others. He still respects anokata, because without respecting Anokata the stream of cash would be gone.
I am under the impression that Gin is not the type particularly concerned with money, other than the money to do with his Porsche. Give him a loaded gun to shoot people, evil plans to execute and killers to command around and he's happy.
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don't forget that the organisation exist since one century. It won't be so easy
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Give him a loaded gun to shoot people, evil plans to execute and killers to command around and he's happy.
HA!! Sweet
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