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Postby kkslider5552000 » March 11th, 2012, 10:56 pm

oh no, 2 episodes. Now I have to make 2 posts, that's totally not worth it.  ::)

Like the last case, my prior knowledge of parts of this case kinda hurts it for me. And the previous sentence was typed before watching the episode because I'm 99.9% certain it will be true. If you are reading this, it was.

I'm not really gonna discuss popular plot theories until the end of this case and what I was ranting about when in the spoiler forum a while ago, but obviously you can.

Sera decides to show off her flat chest to her classmates...ok : D (or in this case I guess it would be : A?). That's kinda funny.

I love how this case starts. Oh I guess this is gonna be another case, you know 4 suspects going to Kogoro for help and one of them ends up dead when they go somewhere. GUNSHOT! WRONG! I just love the villian, he is really clever. "SOLVE THIS CASE OR YOU ALL DIE." I like stuff like that. Also, at this point I can say that Haibara's recent characterization and the Detective Boys doing something were done on purpose for at least something resembling character development. Honestly not sure if Haibara is finally back as a part of the plot again (which she almost has to be in order for this arc to have a really satisfying conclusion), but I hope she is.

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Postby Mead » March 12th, 2012, 2:25 am

I'm convinced Conan is fine with anyone but Ran learning who he is, It's the only time he even pretends to care about hiding his identity. Oh well, someone has to crack the obvious every major arc I guess.

Also I don't get the villain, Sure it seems logical... Force the renown detective to solve the case then kill both himself and the murderer. It's the bombs that seem fake to me. If he was really okay with killing the 3 Suspects, Himself, a famous detective, two girls, and probably anyone around... Why... in gods name doesn't he just kill all three woman to start with. It would involve less people to foil you, and ONE of them did it. So you get revenge anyway. Sooo the bombs are probably fake, unless he just didn't think that through, which seems in his personality type I guess.
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Postby ShinRan4ver » March 12th, 2012, 2:53 am

Really like how Haibara's face got really close to Conan & then she made the comment about Ran as "your girl at the detective agency", seems to me the Shiho-Shinichi-Ran triangle is back :D/
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Postby ranger » March 12th, 2012, 3:22 am

ShinRan4ver wrote:Really like how Haibara's face got really close to Conan & then she made the comment about Ran as "your girl at the detective agency", seems to me the Shiho-Shinichi-Ran triangle is back :D/


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Postby Misztina » March 12th, 2012, 4:07 am

Mead wrote:
Also I don't get the villain, Sure it seems logical... Force the renown detective to solve the case then kill both himself and the murderer. It's the bombs that seem fake to me. If he was really okay with killing the 3 Suspects, Himself, a famous detective, two girls, and probably anyone around... Why... in gods name doesn't he just kill all three woman to start with. It would involve less people to foil you, and ONE of them did it. So you get revenge anyway. Sooo the bombs are probably fake, unless he just didn't think that through, which seems in his personality type I guess.


Because killing them all is the last, desperate option. He wants to know the truth, he would do anything for that, even taking the famous Kogoro & co. as hostages. If Kogoro somehow wouldn't or couldn't cooperate then good bye and boom. But it is in Kogoro's interest to help him, assuming Kogoro doesn't want Ran and himself to die, plus the innocent ones.
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Postby Mead » March 12th, 2012, 4:17 am

Misztina wrote:Because killing them all is the last, desperate option. He wants to know the truth, he would do anything for that, even taking the famous Kogoro & co. as hostages. If Kogoro somehow wouldn't or couldn't cooperate then good bye and boom. But it is in Kogoro's interest to help him, assuming Kogoro doesn't want Ran and himself to die, plus the innocent ones.


The couldn't is the problem, This guy has NO problem with killing Kogoro and two girls with a bomb if he couldn't figure it out? It seems like he's willing to do a lot more killing than needed, He has a gun. It has enough bullets to kill three women and himself if Kogoro can't figure it out. The bombs I guess were useful for making sure they didn't "just kick his butt" but anything beyond that seems to be more murderous than need be (AKA, He'll blow himself up if he can't solve it).
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Postby Misztina » March 12th, 2012, 9:17 am

For the famous "Sleeping Kogoro" a case like this should be a piece of cake. Anyone would think that in the DC world except those who know that he is not that great. But because he is the Sleeping Kogoro that guy had to prepare more to threaten him, than a simple gun, especially with "allies" like Karate Ran.
The guy is desperate, but I highly doubt that he would kill all of them. Except of course if he was very temperamental. Then even a slightly mistake would cause him to actually blow them up. IF the bombs were real, we don't know that yet.
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Postby HADAA » March 13th, 2012, 3:54 am

I'm the kind of person who wants to know exactly "who" and "why", and apparently Sawaguri is the same. Would he rather die without knowing exactly who killed his sister by blowing everyone up, or die knowing he had avenged Miku's death with his own hands that just executed the intended culprit? I think Sawaguri is choosing the latter.
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Postby Kurunouma » March 17th, 2012, 5:45 am

ranger wrote:
ShinRan4ver wrote:Really like how Haibara's face got really close to Conan & then she made the comment about Ran as "your girl at the detective agency", seems to me the Shiho-Shinichi-Ran triangle is back :D/


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Postby kkslider5552000 » March 18th, 2012, 12:49 am

I feel like pointing out that the music from Breakerz is so much better than the actual singing.

So this part is called sniping-wait what? I forgot about that. I also forgot Shinichi ended the previous episode.

Ok, so that's 3 times we've had a special team involved, all 3 times in a plot case...hmm...

This case is really interesting. Well...no actually not the case but figuring what the hell Shinichi is planning that could possibly save lives and Sera trying to get the guy shot and Ran not wanting that, it's actually really interesting and fun and relevent to the god damn characters we care about instead of them doing nothing. It isn't even if this case has a plot related point, in general it feels like a breath of fresh air, which is sometimes even more necessary than the actual quality.

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Postby Conan 48:69 » March 18th, 2012, 4:33 am

Sera don't mind seeing someone being killed in front of her means she had seen it a few times already.

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Sera is very flustered when she can't do anything to stop the bomber ready to kill a rat, her expression won't fit to be Akai's younger sister. Akai (her elder brother?) still able to smile when he is going to be "killed" by Rena.
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Postby kkslider5552000 » March 18th, 2012, 4:47 pm

Conan 48:69 wrote:Sera don't mind seeing someone being killed in front of her means she had seen it a few times already.

I think Ran has seen one...or one hundred dead bodies so I don't think that's the difference.

Granted that's more of ignoring how hilariously common murder mysteries are for suspension of disbelief more than a plot hole. Assuming that's actually where they are going (I'd just assume different philosophies for different detectives).
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Postby kei » March 18th, 2012, 5:25 pm

What I found odd while reading the manga and now watching the anime, is that Shinichi waits so much time after telling this guy who the rat is. In fact, in that period of time he could've killed that woman and commit suicide.
I know that waiting before telling him to stop is for the suspense, but I find it very disturbing.
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Postby Wakarimashita » March 18th, 2012, 7:25 pm

3 episodes for this case :

648 Besieged Detective Agency (Slow)
649 Besieged Detective Agency (Slower)
650 Besieged Detective Agency (Slowest)
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Postby ryankun0903 » March 18th, 2012, 7:29 pm

kei wrote:What I found odd while reading the manga and now watching the anime, is that Shinichi waits so much time after telling this guy who the rat is. In fact, in that period of time he could've killed that woman and commit suicide.
I know that waiting before telling him to stop is for the suspense, but I find it very disturbing.


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