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They should make a special about Yusaku and the original Kai

Postby Bob2000 » November 16th, 2011, 9:51 pm

It would be an interesting special where Yusaku stops one of the original Kaito Kid's heists. Thoughts?
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Re: They should make a special about Yusaku and the original

Postby sonoci » November 16th, 2011, 9:55 pm

That does sound pretty interesting.


However, then more discussions on Conan's universe being the same as Kaito's will spring up and that's getting to be a bit of a tired subject right now :X

Though I'm always for more Toichi and Yuusaku. ...especially Toichi *loves that guy*
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Re: They should make a special about Yusaku and the original

Postby ShinRan4ver » November 16th, 2011, 11:29 pm

I like this idea, but only if this is done around the same time in the DC Universe timeline as Episode 473-Kudo Shinichi Childhood adventure (so we get young Shinichi, Mouri,Kaito and Aoko involved too) and as a Shinchi Flashback episode, because I really liked that Flashback episode. Not to mention during that episode Yusaku mentioned that he stopped Kid but Kid's escape tactic was quite surprising.
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Re: They should make a special about Yusaku and the original

Postby kkslider5552000 » November 17th, 2011, 12:38 am

...it depends.

If they do enough that distinguises them from Conan and Kaito (or I guess distinguises Conan and Kaito from them) then it would be great. Otherwise, no. Hate the middle school Heiji case for trying to make 2 characters exactly the same, I don't want to see anything like it again.
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Re: They should make a special about Yusaku and the original

Postby Divin » November 17th, 2011, 5:23 am

In the case of Shinichi and Yusaku I think Gosho distinguishes them pretty well. Like Mycroft and Sherlock Yusaku is far more brilliant in his deductions than his son (although this might be just due to more experience), but Shinichi is more complete in - let's call it - law enforcement.

If Gosho was to make a case of a battle between Yusaku and Toichi, I doubt we would see Yusaku taking centerstage himself like his son always does. He would stand on the sidelines like a general and giving orders to incompetent policemen. Similar to the case Shinichi vs Kaito (instead of Conan vs Kaito).

And I further expect that Toichi would be far more mature in his actions than his son is. Although this distinction might not be very strong in the DC universe, since Kaito is less of child in DC than in MK imo.

And while I share your aversion to making characters similar to Conan and Heiji just for the sake of it, I'd like to remind you that in this case we are talking about fathers and sons. Thus there is bound to be some similarity. Nevertheless I would appreciate if the would show that the mothers had some impact on their sons as well.
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Re: They should make a special about Yusaku and the original

Postby Wakarimashita » November 17th, 2011, 5:28 am

Not gonna happen in the main manga/anime for a simple reason : Conan most likely has to be in every single episode/case (flashbacks with Shinichi excepted). That's also why you'll probably never have a case which focuses only on the past of the Black Org.

I guess it could happen in an OVA though.
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Re: They should make a special about Yusaku and the original Kaito Kid

Postby Divin » November 17th, 2011, 5:59 am

Since we already know that the ongoing battle between Yusaku and Toichi was during Shinichi's and Kaito's childhood, I don't see why that couldn't happen?!

Sure Conan/Shinichi wouldn't get the most screentime, but he would definitely get his appearance. And we already had cases where Conan/Shinichi was a minor character to that particular case, e.g., Ran solving the mystery of the shopliftings to save her friend.

But I am afraid you are right about the BO members, although I hope Gosho manages to include their past somehow, at least for the major ensemble like Gin and Vodka. Vermouth's past is going to come up again either way...
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Re: They should make a special about Yusaku and the original

Postby Wakarimashita » November 17th, 2011, 6:37 am

The difference is that Ran is a protagonist where as Toichi and Yusaku are almost non-existent characters (just like the BO in fact).
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Re: They should make a special about Yusaku and the original

Postby Divin » November 17th, 2011, 7:47 am

The difference is that Ran is a protagonist where as Toichi and Yusaku are almost non-existent characters (just like the BO in fact).

That is true and I don't know how to argue against that. Although I think given the number of irrelevant cases we endure see, I don't think this should be a criteria.

Nevertheless I see one possibility for this scenario to happen: in a long case showing the final battle between Conan and Kaito. This battle mixed with memories of a case he observed as a child, when his father was close to getting the original Kaito Kid. And to make those flashbacks relevant, he will remember a fact that leads to his victory or to the discovery of Kaito's true identity.
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Re: They should make a special about Yusaku and the original

Postby GinRei » November 23rd, 2011, 7:39 pm

Divin wrote:but Shinichi is more complete in - let's call it - law enforcement.


And this statement is based on what?
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Re: They should make a special about Yusaku and the original

Postby D. » November 26th, 2011, 1:06 pm

I would like to see it in an OVA too ( as Wakarimashita said earlier) because I tend to like the manga/anime to be more plot related in a more frequent maner. It killing be now that all of the most recent anime and the anime to come is mostly AO.
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Re: They should make a special about Yusaku and the original

Postby Feb914 » November 26th, 2011, 1:27 pm

a flashback episode will give some refreshment to decreasing new material of DC (until Sera first appearance). it gives more insight to people who up until now just merely cameos (yuusaku, and even worse, toichi). It will increase colours to Shinichi/Conan vs Kid now.
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Re: They should make a special about Yusaku and the original

Postby Suutashi » November 26th, 2011, 8:38 pm

Bob2000 wrote:It would be an interesting special where Yusaku stops one of the original Kaito Kid's heists. Thoughts?
Actually I think it would be a bit more interesting to see how Yukiko and Toichi met each other and what it was like for Toichi to have Yukiko and Sharon as pupils. This way there would be the possibility of Black Org related story development as well as giving Toichi a chance to get some more character development.
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Re: They should make a special about Yusaku and the original

Postby mangaluva » November 26th, 2011, 9:12 pm

Suutashi wrote:
Bob2000 wrote:It would be an interesting special where Yusaku stops one of the original Kaito Kid's heists. Thoughts?
Actually I think it would be a bit more interesting to see how Yukiko and Toichi met each other and what it was like for Toichi to have Yukiko and Sharon as pupils. This way there would be the possibility of Black Org related story development as well as giving Toichi a chance to get some more character development.


This. Also, teenage!Yukiko sounds like a lot of fun XD
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Re: They should make a special about Yusaku and the original

Postby ShinRan4ver » November 27th, 2011, 5:07 pm

GinRei wrote:
Divin wrote:but Shinichi is more complete in - let's call it - law enforcement.


And this statement is based on what?


It is based on the ten bajillion times Conan/Shinchi kicked something to knock out the criminal/use the tranquilizer dart on the criminal to incapactiate them before the police could get there or help the police capture the culpirt. There was no evidence that Yusaku had any skill to incapacitate the culprit without police help.

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