Why is Kid in Conan's universe???

[mangaluva]

Kid appeared in the manga because Aoyama felt like having a little gimmicky nod to the fans of that series, and he became a major-league dark horse.

As for Akako's magic? MST3K mantra.

Fixed, only because I was very confused for a moment.

I need to turn off the spellcheck on my new browser. It changes random words. Why the hell doesn't it know "series"? It tried to turn "Sapphire" into "Sapphic", too. Who the hell programmed this thing?!

[ddrober2003]

So when Akako does finally show up and use magic Shinchi will go insane trying to find a logical explanation, and the series will end with him in a straight jacket repeatedly saying "there is only one truth!"

Or because Kid is awesome.

Or because Gosho wanted to draw more Kid but not work on two manga at the same time.....this one I suppose is more likely, but I like the first one the best.

[sonoci]

(For example: When they were all stuck in that village and Ayumi had the whole interaction with the ghost girl. I refuse to believe that you can see facial features, clothes, eyes, and hair from fog. LET ALONE match her "random" description of a girl who DIED years before. I refuse. I've seen fog before and never have I mistaken for it to be a person. What Conan said was a load of bull. XD Not to mention at the end of the case Ayumi said she just STOOD there. She didn't say she spoke or anything like that. Suspicious? I think so.)

Sorry, as much as I'd like to agree, that was an AO.

That was the animation staff having their fun, Gosho was not involved. As far as canon is concerned, there's still only logic 

Why the ? Gosho abandoning (some kind of) logic would be the worst thing that could happen to DC.

The  was there as a way of saying "sorry bud but I just proved your point null". It was in no way supposed to be saying "logic should be abandoned".  I don't really see that emoticon as undecided but rather the one that's closest to : /

[Mead]

Basically don't get so worked up over it, It's a bit silly to say "X happened in a different manga that has a connection with Y, This means X can happen in Y"

Kid had a cross over with Yaiba, and by process of crossing over with DC, does that mean that all of the weird stuff that happens in Yaiba is now possible in DC? No.

[kkslider5552000]

still more logical than Gosho deciding that Chiba case was worth his, or anyone else's, time

[WolfenAmphithere]

Answer: Gosho wrote that chapter long before he decided to go with semi-realism, is my guess. Keep in mind it's based on a manga chapter from probably 1990 or so (just guessing, no idea the exact year). Also, Shinichi does appear in the Magic Kaitou manga in volume 4 or so, but that volume was finished well into the Conan manga.

At this point, Gosho has also probably changed his mind as for not combining the two series (as was his original statement probably 10 years ago).

[IHKF]

(For example: When they were all stuck in that village and Ayumi had the whole interaction with the ghost girl. I refuse to believe that you can see facial features, clothes, eyes, and hair from fog. LET ALONE match her "random" description of a girl who DIED years before. I refuse. I've seen fog before and never have I mistaken for it to be a person. What Conan said was a load of bull. XD Not to mention at the end of the case Ayumi said she just STOOD there. She didn't say she spoke or anything like that. Suspicious? I think so.)

Sorry, as much as I'd like to agree, that was an AO.

That was the animation staff having their fun, Gosho was not involved. As far as canon is concerned, there's still only logic 

So far, anyways.

I'm still betting there will eventually be one thing Conan is unable to explain at some point in time that he'll never find the answer to. xD I hope Gosho does. It's just way too funny to imagine it. XD

[oxen221]

Basically don't get so worked up over it, It's a bit silly to say "X happened in a different manga that has a connection with Y, This means X can happen in Y"

Kid had a cross over with Yaiba, and by process of crossing over with DC, does that mean that all of the weird stuff that happens in Yaiba is now possible in DC? No.

Yes, but having so many cases about Kid in DC universe makes Kid a minor character you can't ignore. If it was a one off then I wouldn't care so much. I am not too sure how many Kid cases in DC are manga and how many are AO (I am assuming the vast majority is from Canon). So unless Yaiba is a recurring character in Kid I still consider Kid Universe = Conan universe.

[sonoci]

It's difficult to explain, but no matter how many times Kaito shows up, there's the fact that he hasn't been involved with the plot, and that's where importance lies (as weird as it is to say with how scarce the plot is).

The argument of Kid being important and by extension his universe really shouldn't be made unless he was involved with plot. If he's not, which he hasn't, then it boils down to cameo. It's difficult to wrap your head around it, but just imagine it this way: imagine Gosho isn't also the author of Magic Kaito. Then what would Kaito's appearances be?

A cameo.

That's all it is. The high number of appearances? That's because of the convenience that comes with Gosho being the mangaka of both series.

I can't find the specific link right now, but as an example Conan has made a cameo in a manga called Hayate Combat Butler (or something along those lines). He was even referenced by name. In fact, I believe he's had quite a few references in that series. Does it mean he has anything to do with the show? Considering the only thing I know about that series is the few cameos made by Conan and nothing else that could be a summary, I'd say not.

It's the same with Kaito's situation. The reason I found out about Kaito's story was because I looked up Magic Kaitou. The only reason I found MK was because of a comment on related to his third appearance. Kaito appeared 3 times and among those I learnt nothing about Magic Kaitou, and I would've continued to be oblivious of his own tale if I only watched DC.

It is my belief that one universe should only equal the other if they're important to one another or explicitly stated to be the same place (ie: certain Tamora Pierce books). If Kid's universe was = to Conan's, we would've known more about him. In essence, the word "universe" here could be thought of as "series".

So, thinking of it that way, Why is Kid in Conan's "series"?

Cameo.

Conan has his own "series" or universe: Detective Conan

Kid has his own "series" or universe: Magic Kaitou

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If they were, the above should've been either DDeetteeccttiivvee  CCoonnaann or MMaaggiicc  KKaaiittoouu as I was compariing the spelling. It's not the same, therefore the universes should not be thought of as the same 

At least that's the way I see it. Another answer would be what mangaluva said: MST3K mantra

In essence, don't think too much about it 

[yamiangie]

from hear on out I'm just going to post the link to Icka's handy dandy Kid appearance cheat sheet.  i mean fansite http://www.mischif.net/1412/kid.htm  

Any way I mostly think it comes down to whether or not you can accept that Conan's intellectual rival dresses like Tuxedo Mask.

[D.]

I was wondering weather Gosho plans to end DC with MK or one before the other. Because in DC we have this BO with Gin and the others, and in MK we have "dunno what organization" with Snake and now Spider.
*a bit confused*

[kkslider5552000]

I pretty much think that either Gosho needs to combine the Organizations or just have the MK organization defeated (if only temporarily depending on if MK ever continues more than once every couple of years ever again) in Conan as a way to justify Kid being part of the series from a story perspective. Gosho is allowed to continue the series as nothing in Sunday will be as popular, might as well use everything that he possibly can before the series ends instead of making stories no one could ever possibly care about. Especially considering Hayate no Gotoku, which is doing DC stories better than DC nowadays so Gosho desperately needs to do something.

[ShinRan4ver]

Akako have already appeared in the DC universe, in episode 219 during Kid's flashback of the Clocktower case and showed some supernatural power already, Akkao bascially predicted that Shinichi would appear to stop Kid and also said Shinichi is "Kuroba-kun's rival","Someone powerful, with the aggressiveness of the Devil" without even nowing his name. So clearly she got this information from a supernatural source like Lucifer(she even said that to Kaito).

[Wakarimashita]

The beginning of episode 219 is not in the DC manga. That was the animators screwing up (again).

[Kor]

The beginning of episode 219 is not in the DC manga. That was the animators screwing up (again).

Yeah, I know. Those animators, they are responsible for all the problems in the world. How dare they make a faithful adaptation of a MK file and put it in DC? They totally screwed up there, well, not animation-wise, that was fine, but how the hell did they manage to insert 20 minutes of stuff from MK if it wasn't even in the DC manga? We should hate those animators forever! But for some reason I kinda have the feeling that they knew exactly what they were doing......?












nah, obviously they just screwed up by screwing up for the sake of screwing up because they just wanted to screw the fans! They should do it exactly in the way that it's in the manga.

Spoiler:

*raises the sarcasm flag just in case*