How Shinichi Should Tell Ran That He's Conan???

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Re: How Shinichi Should Tell Ran That He's Conan???

Postby angelranchan » November 14th, 2011, 10:42 pm

lols!! imbestigating the dead fish!! that sure was a serious case ^^
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Re: How Shinichi Should Tell Ran That He's Conan???

Postby feluda » November 15th, 2011, 12:29 am

He should call her on the phone talking about childhood days and then walk into the room while still talking and it slowly dawns on Ran, that he is the "one".
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Re: How Shinichi Should Tell Ran That He's Conan???

Postby Supernatural Delight » November 17th, 2011, 7:25 am

Right now it's past 4am & I could not sleep because I kept running through different ways of Shinichi telling Ran that he's really Conan in my head & I ended up using some ideas that were said. It really got me thinking on many different things because my mind just wanders like that.

I used the idea with the fingerprints which got me curious, how is it the police don't know already? We know that they have Conan's fingerprints in the system & we can assume that they have Shinichi's. It would be hard to imagine that they didn't already have his fingerprints. Also the 10th movie when Conan's fingerprints were read as Shinichi's, really? You'd think that someone in the police department would have figured it out or something.

One that ran through my head that I liked relating to the fingerprints is, Takagi is comparing fingerprints because of a case & somehow accidentally ends up discovering that Shinichi & Conan have identical fingerprints & after that he starts acting a little strange while around Conan. Ran notices this & she's yet again going through where she is suspecting Conan of being Shinichi so thinking that if she talked to him he might end up tricking her into thinking he wasn't him, she ends up getting an answer as to why Takagi has been acting strange while around Conan & well it grew from there.

I went through multiple ideas but I'm too tired to recall most of them.
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Re: How Shinichi Should Tell Ran That He's Conan???

Postby ssjup81 » November 19th, 2011, 12:22 am

angelranchan wrote:^ Ran would not mind that :D because there's so many much good things happen to him and conan..conan save her life many times..:D


Maybe, but I still think she would feel hurt over the fact that she wasn't told of what was going on, even if he was trying his best to protect her.
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Re: How Shinichi Should Tell Ran That He's Conan???

Postby ssjup81 » November 19th, 2011, 12:25 am

Supernatural Delight wrote:Right now it's past 4am & I could not sleep because I kept running through different ways of Shinichi telling Ran that he's really Conan in my head & I ended up using some ideas that were said. It really got me thinking on many different things because my mind just wanders like that.

I used the idea with the fingerprints which got me curious, how is it the police don't know already? We know that they have Conan's fingerprints in the system & we can assume that they have Shinichi's. It would be hard to imagine that they didn't already have his fingerprints. Also the 10th movie when Conan's fingerprints were read as Shinichi's, really? You'd think that someone in the police department would have figured it out or something.

One that ran through my head that I liked relating to the fingerprints is, Takagi is comparing fingerprints because of a case & somehow accidentally ends up discovering that Shinichi & Conan have identical fingerprints & after that he starts acting a little strange while around Conan. Ran notices this & she's yet again going through where she is suspecting Conan of being Shinichi so thinking that if she talked to him he might end up tricking her into thinking he wasn't him, she ends up getting an answer as to why Takagi has been acting strange while around Conan & well it grew from there.

I went through multiple ideas but I'm too tired to recall most of them.
But what reason would they have for having Shinichi's prints in the system? Maybe the reason it hasn't been brought up is because his prints aren't there, only Conan's as it was on actual evidence (that phone).  I can't think of any reason for Shinichi's prints to be there unless he was in a situation like in the case of how they have Conan's.
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Re: How Shinichi Should Tell Ran That He's Conan???

Postby Supernatural Delight » November 19th, 2011, 2:57 am

It's possible that they have his. If he did detective work & was around the police a lot it would make sense. If they didn't & Ran got suspicious again she'd find a set of his fingerprints to compare to Conan's. Although she hasn't seemed to be smart enough to do that yet. Maybe deep down somewhere she knows that she shouldn't know for her own safety so she just lets herself to fall for his tricks to convince her otherwise & just leaves it. I mean seriously already she knows they have the same birthday, same blood type, & look alike. If she gets suspicious again then the best way to prove it is comparing fingerprints. There's no possible way he can convince her otherwise if she knows they have the same fingerprints.
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Re: How Shinichi Should Tell Ran That He's Conan???

Postby ssjup81 » November 19th, 2011, 7:44 am

Supernatural Delight wrote:It's possible that they have his. If he did detective work & was around the police a lot it would make sense. If they didn't & Ran got suspicious again she'd find a set of his fingerprints to compare to Conan's. Although she hasn't seemed to be smart enough to do that yet. Maybe deep down somewhere she knows that she shouldn't know for her own safety so she just lets herself to fall for his tricks to convince her otherwise & just leaves it. I mean seriously already she knows they have the same birthday, same blood type, & look alike. If she gets suspicious again then the best way to prove it is comparing fingerprints. There's no possible way he can convince her otherwise if she knows they have the same fingerprints.
Unlike other countries, Japan doesn't keep prints of its citizens on file,. unless said person is a criminal.  Unless Shinichi handled evidence where his prints just happen to get on the items (like in the case of Conan with the cell phone which couldn't be helped), then I highly doubt they would be there in the police system.

That aside, what does intelligence have to do with this?  Anyone sane would toss the notion out of the window because it's scientifically impossible for a person to not only shrink in size, but to age backwards by ten years.  It's illogical to assume otherwise.  She has no logical reason to even compare the prints, especially since, like I said, it's not common for commoners in Japan to have their prints on file.  Now maybe if Shinichi was a foreigner, sure....  Anywho, Shinichi being the "Holmes freak"/Detective otaku, I doubt he would get his prints on anything in fear of tainting evidence.  He had to earn the trust of the police in some way, and I doubt that he earned it by not being extra careful in that regard.

Edit:  They look alike, they're supposed to be family and related to one another so that's not too farfetched an explanation.  When I was a kid, I looked a lot like my father's younger sister when she was a kid. 

Blood type is tricky, but this I honestly don't remember...did she make that connection when she gave blood for Conan?  That he and Shinichi had the same type?  I can't remember at all if she recalled Shinichi's blood type...but in Japan, it's common knowledge to know that about a person.  I can't recall the manga case or the anime ep number to go back and check myself.  What was Conan/Shinichi's blood type?  What was Ran's?
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Re: How Shinichi Should Tell Ran That He's Conan???

Postby believer08 » November 19th, 2011, 7:55 am

ssjup81 wrote:That aside, what does intelligence have to do with this?  Anyone sane would toss the notion out of the window because it's scientifically impossible for a person to not only shrink in size, but to age backwards by ten years.  It's illogical to assume otherwise.


To be honest, we are always complaining about Ran's "lack of intelligence" because she "doesn't know/didn't realize" that Conan is Shinichi. But, actually... who on earth could believe that your best friend suddenly became a child again? No matter how many proofs she could have, she'll need an irrevocable one to believe it. And I don't blame her...
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Re: How Shinichi Should Tell Ran That He's Conan???

Postby sstimson » November 19th, 2011, 7:55 am

Yes but. If I remember right there was a case where his fingerprints being where there should not be (he placed them before the murder) was the smoking gun for the case
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Re: How Shinichi Should Tell Ran That He's Conan???

Postby ssjup81 » November 19th, 2011, 8:17 am

believer08 wrote:
ssjup81 wrote:That aside, what does intelligence have to do with this?  Anyone sane would toss the notion out of the window because it's scientifically impossible for a person to not only shrink in size, but to age backwards by ten years.  It's illogical to assume otherwise.


To be honest, we are always complaining about Ran's "lack of intelligence" because she "doesn't know/didn't realize" that Conan is Shinichi. But, actually... who on earth could believe that your best friend suddenly became a child again? No matter how many proofs she could have, she'll need an irrevocable one to believe it. And I don't blame her...
Exactly!  I hate it when people say Ran is stupid because she hasn't figured out that Conan was really Shinichi.  The notion is just way too farfetched.  For me to believe something like that, he'd have to say something that only he and I would know, and even then, I'd dismiss it as, "Hm, Shinichi must've mentioned it at some point." or he would either have to change right in front of me.
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Re: How Shinichi Should Tell Ran That He's Conan???

Postby believer08 » November 19th, 2011, 8:28 am

ssjup81 wrote: or he would either have to change right in front of me.


I think this is the only way that Ran will actually believe it (I think she knows who conan is, at least subconciously)
It made me remember the OVA... "strange in ten years" or something like that. I know it's not canon, of course, but she had the proof (and OBVIOUS proof) and she did'nt believe his story just because is unbelievable.
So, unless he change in front of her, she will not be convinced. She could "believe him" if Conan tells her the story, but she only can confirm this in that way.
But, how he will make it? He had a lot of opportunities to change in fornt of her, but he didn't because he's "protecting her". The change will be an accident, unpredictable, that's the only way just because Conan is soo stuborn.

Sorry about the english, I hope u can understand the point.
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Re: How Shinichi Should Tell Ran That He's Conan???

Postby Supernatural Delight » November 19th, 2011, 2:36 pm

Yeah I can understand it just fine.

You have to remember this is Ran we are talking about. She mistook a airship for a UFO although to be fair she was little at the time. She believes in ghosts... although I believe in ghosts but I wouldn't believe that my best friend would shrink. Alright but she easily believes in things like the kappa. Although yet again to be fair she did see something that looked a lot like it. Alright alight you both made great points.
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Re: How Shinichi Should Tell Ran That He's Conan???

Postby ssjup81 » November 19th, 2011, 5:47 pm

IMO, the Kappa is like our version (US anyway as far as I can say) of the Boogieman and other stories that are told to scare children.  To me it's no different from hearing a legendary story about a monster at a young age.  I also don't fault her for the ghost thing as many people believe in (and are scared of) ghosts.  If anything, that doesn't show that Ran is dumb, it shows that she's very naive and superstitious at most.
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Re: How Shinichi Should Tell Ran That He's Conan???

Postby Supernatural Delight » November 19th, 2011, 10:42 pm

I wasn't trying to point out that she's dumb. I was just trying to say she seems like the kind of person who would believe that someone can shrink & go back in age. I believe in ghosts & I'm not dumb. Heck, I've even seen a ghost before. A few times actually. I'm just saying she has a open mind so it's possible for her to believe that Conan is really Shinichi. Now that he's done plenty to prove otherwise she probably wouldn't believe it if he just walked up to her as Conan & say that he's Shinichi. It might take a little bit or she might go through yet another phase where she's convinced that Conan really is him. I've lost count on how many times she's done that.
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Re: How Shinichi Should Tell Ran That He's Conan???

Postby ConansSideWalk » November 19th, 2011, 11:38 pm

Conan5 wrote:"Ran, I am Cocaine."  :-X
Ran, I am a not on drugs I am one.....  now snort me you drug addict! xD We find out that Ran was crazy and on drugs the whole time man Conan the 5th you just blew my mind. It's like Inception, but with talking drugs :O
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