Episode 345 - Haibara and the spare glasses

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Episode 345 - Haibara and the spare glasses

Postby Divin » November 3rd, 2011, 7:50 pm

Hello everyone!

I searched for an answer to my question, unfortunately didn't find one. So I hope you can shed some light on the matter.

I buy the premise, that Conan didn't find the spare pursuit glasses, despite his persistent personality. It's unlikely, but still possible.
But as far as I know, these glasses can only pursue the Detective Badgets and specialized transmitters... so, why on earth, if he didn't want Haibara to follow him and suspected that she had the spare glasses, didn't he just leave every kind of transmitter at home?

The only reason I can think of is, that in the worst-case-scenario Agasa needed a transmitter-signal to find him. However he doesn't use the glasses or any other tracking device, as far as I could see.

Well... I just wouldn't like the idea, that Gosho couldn't come up with a scenario to get Ai to the final showdown, that was in itself consistent. He is better than that.

So let me hear it! What did I miss?
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Re: Episode 345 - Haibara and the spare glasses

Postby sstimson » November 3rd, 2011, 11:08 pm

My opinion. Conan was trusting Asaga to track him. He was hoping that they would take him to the BO Boss. So he had to be trackable and you are right, he did not use any kind of tracking device, but he had on his person a tracking device. (Chapter 434 Page 14). Another thing you are forgetting is this. He is trying (Unsuccessfully because of Heiji) to protect Haibara by taking her place.(Chapter 433 Pages 13 and 14) To see Asaga gear see Chapter 434 Page 15)
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Re: Episode 345 - Haibara and the spare glasses

Postby Shinhoi » November 5th, 2011, 10:11 am

Actually conan already knew about the tracking glasses in the house and if it were me, I would just keep it with me just in case haibara might find it.
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Re: Episode 345 - Haibara and the spare glasses

Postby sstimson » November 5th, 2011, 5:42 pm

You missed the part where Conan said " Oh she hid them"
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Re: Episode 345 - Haibara and the spare glasses

Postby Divin » November 6th, 2011, 7:34 am

Well, first of: I watch the anime and don't read the manga. The Heiji + Haibara part was differently interpreted in the Anime showing Ai escaping on her own from her basement prison. Thus I wasn't aware of Heiji's assistance.

Nevertheless, if, like you said and I also believe, Conan wanted to keep Haibara out of harm's way, why didn't he succeed? It seems contrived, that he and Agasa weren't able to prevent Conan from being tracked by her, while still being capable of tracking himself. I mean, despite the time pressure they had a fancy heart-monitoring device at hand, but a 2nd tracking technology is out of the question?
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Re: Episode 345 - Haibara and the spare glasses

Postby Chekhov MacGuffin » November 6th, 2011, 12:18 pm

Divin wrote:Nevertheless, if, like you said and I also believe, Conan wanted to keep Haibara out of harm's way, why didn't he succeed? It seems contrived, that he and Agasa weren't able to prevent Conan from being tracked by her, while still being capable of tracking himself. I mean, despite the time pressure they had a fancy heart-monitoring device at hand, but a 2nd tracking technology is out of the question?

I think Conan had to have a more conventional tracker on him at the time because otherwise Agasa could not stay close enough to pick up sound signals from the transmitter. Remember the original plan was that Vermouth was going to take Conan to the boss. Agasa and Conan don't know where the boss is or how long it will take to get there. Agasa was going to have to follow and drive in range of Conan's signals. Conan's equipment isn't a long distance antenna after all.

I assume they used the closest technology they had that worked well, the detective badge, because it wasn't like Agasa had much time to invent something else. Conan worrying about whether Haibara had the tracking glasses proves this is the solution they used. Chances are that Agasa was using a non-tracking glasses rig to follow the signal, like a computer instead. We have seen a similar setup already in the BO's use to follow the mini-bomb transmitter signals.
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Re: Episode 345 - Haibara and the spare glasses

Postby sstimson » November 8th, 2011, 1:10 am

Even though I not sure of the time frame, Chekhov, Agasa is not needed. We know his Shinichi Mom, Yukiko, helped with his (Conan) disguise. Again depending on the time frame, that means that maybe his Dad, Yusaku, might also be involved. That means better equiment then what Asaga invented becomes available. And some of what I saw in those pages, looks over Agasa's ability as it does not look make shift at all, but much more professional. Also remember Agasa Beetle for that case has a satellite hookup as well. That alone could greatly increase their possible distance as well.
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