Importance of Ran as a character

[angelranchan]

IHKF:Sarcastic? What's that? *consult Mr.Dictionary*
okay...whatever...but I just wanted to say by that smile that I'm happy that my opinion is being accepted (or even its really not)
others:
Whatever..<_<  That's all you can say because you can't see Ran's importance because your heart is close and you're blind

You know what,I'm trying to be nice to Ai fans/some other fans even they don't like me...but its USELESS and I'm always MISUNDERSTOOD I want peace,but you don't want...
Ran fans will just keep quiet (i think ) because we don't want fights...

[Kor]

None. That's her importance as a character.

Oh not this again....

Hurry up and take cover. The Ran fans are coming in armored and loaded.

This doesn't help, IHKF, it truly doesn't.

[mangaluva]

I have a solution that will solve all warfare on this forum!

Ship Ran x Shiho OTP. That leaves Shinichi free to be with his true love, Kaito.

[IHKF]

None. That's her importance as a character.

Oh not this again....

Hurry up and take cover. The Ran fans are coming in armored and loaded.

This doesn't help, IHKF, it truly doesn't.

It was a joke. Okay? XD

[angelranchan]

Hey! I'm a RAI(Ran x Ai/Shiho) fan! XD

[Sherry86]

@IHKF
It's because what they do doesn't have anything to do with you. That's why I said that maybe you're jealous to them because they annoy you. The one who know you're jealous or not is yourself, not me.

.... O_o What reason do I have to- you know what? I'm just gonna roll my eyes at this one. You have NO LOGIC behind what you just said. At all. It's fandom. There is nothing to be jealous of. 

@IHKF
Okay, because my words have no logic, I give you words from FFn, "don't like, don't read". If you don't like seeing their behavior, don't waste your time seeing it.

It's.. the forums... HOW was I supposed to know you would write something with no logic...? Your comments make no sense. Please please try and MESSAGE me if you want to continue an argument like THIS. It has no back to it either and I'm pretty sure some people in here would be peeved if somebody got a moderator in here fighting with us.

If you notice the bold phrase in the first quote, it makes me don't understand what do you mean in the second quote. But maybe it's my fault because I replied to you without quoting the previous post.

I just think that it's better if someone don't waste their time seeing something that annoy them, especially if that something doesn't have anything to do with them and they have the freedom to not seeing that something. But it's my opinion and if you dislike it, just ignore it.

And I don't want to continue discussing with you because you keep attacking my reply post to you (low self esteem, no logic, no sense, etc).

And I'm sorry if I annoy you with my post.

@IHKF
Okay, because my words have no logic, I give you words from FFn, "don't like, don't read". If you don't like seeing their behavior, don't waste your time seeing it.

@Kleene Onigiri
I hardly get any flame in FFn, and in dctp everyone seems polite enough, that's why I don't understand why people said that Ai fans or Ran fans are annoying and as Ai fans, I'm a bit offended by that.

Sorry if I look like attacking neutral fans.

Well, just because you don't get flamed doesn't necessary mean others aren't D:
And you're taking it too personal too. It was said that there are some annoying fans in general. Doesn't mean you're too.
Being a Ai/Ran/Akai etc. fan doesn't automatically make you a nice person, or a person that doesn't bash other people D:

Not really, I got flamed in my Heiji x Shiho fic, the two of them claimed that they're Ai fans and they said I destroyed Ai's image in that fic and that fic is fu***ng fic, the other is canon pairing fan because he/she said that I never read DC because if I read DC, I should know that Heiji is belonged to Kazuha and Shinichi belonged to Ran. And they said it with harsh words. But because the other 294 review from 297 review that I got are full of appreciation for that fic, I think I hardly get any flame in ffn.

Maybe you're right, I'm taking it too personal. So what about if in other occasions, you're willing to mention which one from Ai fans or Ran fans that annoy you here, in dctp forum, and what kind of thing that make them annoy you so they can apologize to you and they can assure you that they aren't as annoying as you think? It'll clear up some misunderstanding because you posted your statement about Ai fans or Ran fans are annoying, here, in dctp forum.

IMO, it's true that being certain character fans doesn't automatically make someone a nice person, but it's true too, that being neutral fans doesn't automatically make someone have the right to say that character fans are annoying, everywhere they want. But someone who doesn't bash other people in the forum is a nice person, IMO.

[IHKF]

If you notice the bold phrase in the first quote, it makes me don't understand what do you mean in the second quote. But maybe it's my fault because I replied to you without quoting the previous post.

I just think that it's better if someone don't waste their time seeing something that annoy them, especially if that something doesn't have anything to do with them and they have the freedom to not seeing that something. But it's my opinion and if you dislike it, just ignore it.

And I don't want to continue discussing with you because you keep attacking my reply post to you (low self esteem, no logic, no sense, etc).

And I'm sorry if I annoy you with my post.

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IMO, it's true that being certain character fans doesn't automatically make someone a nice person, but it's true too, that being neutral fans doesn't automatically make someone have the right to say that character fans are annoying, everywhere they want. But someone who doesn't bash other people in the forum is a nice person, IMO.

You don't annoy, I just wish you thought what you were saying through a bit more. Your argument made no sense is all. So what if I don't read it? I know that the fans on either side can be obsessively annoying (I can hear too even if I don't want to), so my opinion stays the same of them. What annoys us annoys us, it's human nature. I will let you keep that opinion though, although it makes 0 sense. xD

Attacking? Oh if you think THAT'S attacking you're in for the long haul. You have a fanfiction account?

Ever been flamed before?
Ever been evaluated?
Ever been disagreed with?
If you think what I was saying was attacking your post, then the answer to all of these is obviously a no. XD

And umm.... I think you may have missed the point that she made there. It was said SOME fans were annoying. SOME. We have a right to say that SOME fans are annoying if we're neutral OR even a fan.

[dilbertschalter]

i was thinking of locking this thread when i first saw it, but i decided not to.

i was wrong.

it isn't producing anything other than personal debates, which is a bad thing (tm).

[kkslider5552000]

i was thinking of locking this thread when i first saw it, but i decided not to.

i was wrong.

it isn't producing anything other than personal debates, which is a bad thing (tm).

a few lame posts aside, this is still better than most topics involving Ran and/or Haibara.

Or most topics in this part of the forum anymore.

[Kleene Onigiri]

@IHKF
Okay, because my words have no logic, I give you words from FFn, "don't like, don't read". If you don't like seeing their behavior, don't waste your time seeing it.

@Kleene Onigiri
I hardly get any flame in FFn, and in dctp everyone seems polite enough, that's why I don't understand why people said that Ai fans or Ran fans are annoying and as Ai fans, I'm a bit offended by that.

Sorry if I look like attacking neutral fans.

Well, just because you don't get flamed doesn't necessary mean others aren't D:
And you're taking it too personal too. It was said that there are some annoying fans in general. Doesn't mean you're too.
Being a Ai/Ran/Akai etc. fan doesn't automatically make you a nice person, or a person that doesn't bash other people D:

Not really, I got flamed in my Heiji x Shiho fic, the two of them claimed that they're Ai fans and they said I destroyed Ai's image in that fic and that fic is fu***ng fic, the other is canon pairing fan because he/she said that I never read DC because if I read DC, I should know that Heiji is belonged to Kazuha and Shinichi belonged to Ran. And they said it with harsh words. But because the other 294 review from 297 review that I got are full of appreciation for that fic, I think I hardly get any flame in ffn.

Maybe you're right, I'm taking it too personal. So what about if in other occasions, you're willing to mention which one from Ai fans or Ran fans that annoy you here, in dctp forum, and what kind of thing that make them annoy you so they can apologize to you and they can assure you that they aren't as annoying as you think? It'll clear up some misunderstanding because you posted your statement about Ai fans or Ran fans are annoying, here, in dctp forum.

IMO, it's true that being certain character fans doesn't automatically make someone a nice person, but it's true too, that being neutral fans doesn't automatically make someone have the right to say that character fans are annoying, everywhere they want. But someone who doesn't bash other people in the forum is a nice person, IMO.

Yeah, well. Now imagine if you'd wrote that and 294 people would flame/bash you instead, because they don't accept your opinion. That's what happens when you aren't a fan of Ai but are neutral/don't hype about her as the other fans and say that openly. Yes, then you'll be bashed and flamed here, some say "are you kidding?" "you must be a troll" "somethings not right with you" etc. Tho GMs are handling such stuff well here and it stops quite fast

I just think that it's better if someone don't waste their time seeing something that annoy them, especially if that something doesn't have anything to do with them and they have the freedom to not seeing that something.

Why are your replying to my opinion then? If it annoys you but doesn't concern you (since you think you're not an annying Ai fan, right?) you can also just ignore it?

[sonoci]

And besides of their obsessiveness about their character and this resulting in a heated argument/bashing, I like those people anyway. Because fandom isn't everything, you can also talk about other stuff People do have different opinions. I accept their opinion, even if I maybe don't understand it always. If they don't accept my opinion, it's their problem, and if they start bashing me or others because of that, then it's annoying.
There is no misunderstanding. Once you want to force your own opinion on someone and don't accept it that he/she doesn't agree, it is annoying and will always be annoying.
So, yes, here in DCTP, there are SOME fans that are annoying. Doesn't mean they are bad people because of that tho.

...

But I don't care if you think I'm nice or not. I'll say what I think and won't hide my opinion just so that other people will think "I'm nice". But I also say my opinion in a polite manner, without bashing anyone and accepting their opinion (at least I try XD)

Oh Giri-chan <3 \o/

Actually, the way I see it, if you know someone that is EXACTLY like you - as in likes what you like, is good at what you do, plays what you play, dresses the way you do - even if you think it's cool/fun at first, there's something VERY wrong there. People shouldn't be clones of each other. TBH, IMHO something like that almost seems like dependency or something (of course, only on the one copying the other) It's like that episode with the sisters obsessed with Yoko. :X

[mangaluva]

And besides of their obsessiveness about their character and this resulting in a heated argument/bashing, I like those people anyway. Because fandom isn't everything, you can also talk about other stuff People do have different opinions. I accept their opinion, even if I maybe don't understand it always. If they don't accept my opinion, it's their problem, and if they start bashing me or others because of that, then it's annoying.
There is no misunderstanding. Once you want to force your own opinion on someone and don't accept it that he/she doesn't agree, it is annoying and will always be annoying.
So, yes, here in DCTP, there are SOME fans that are annoying. Doesn't mean they are bad people because of that tho.

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But I don't care if you think I'm nice or not. I'll say what I think and won't hide my opinion just so that other people will think "I'm nice". But I also say my opinion in a polite manner, without bashing anyone and accepting their opinion (at least I try XD)

Oh Giri-chan <3 \o/

Actually, the way I see it, if you know someone that is EXACTLY like you - as in likes what you like, is good at what you do, plays what you play, dresses the way you do - even if you think it's cool/fun at first, there's something VERY wrong there. People shouldn't be clones of each other. TBH, IMHO something like that almost seems like dependency or something (of course, only on the one copying the other) It's like that episode with the sisters obsessed with Yoko. :X

It'll all end in horrible, horrible murder. (Well, it does anyway, this being a DC forum, but still.)

[Vylash]

But I don't care if you think I'm nice or not. I'll say what I think and won't hide my opinion just so that other people will think "I'm nice".

I love you

[Akonyl]

But I don't care if you think I'm nice or not. I'll say what I think and won't hide my opinion just so that other people will think "I'm nice".

I love you

*bricks Parkur*

[kkslider5552000]

But I don't care if you think I'm nice or not. I'll say what I think and won't hide my opinion just so that other people will think "I'm nice".

*makes long post* = *doesn't care*


I don't care either but you don't see me cutting CM Punk promos.