Importance of Ran as a character

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Re: Importance of Ran as a character

Postby Vylash » October 22nd, 2011, 4:30 pm

xUntouchedHopex wrote:Ran is one of the most importants characters for me, everyone in DC has a role to play, Ran's role is discovering Conan's real identity and protect him(and being saved by conan...), also to wait for Shinichi, to help him sometimes to solve cases, and she is sometimes implied with the BO,and obviously she protects Haibara and the DB and everyone, she takes care of Kogoro and Conan and she is friend of Kazuha, Heiji and Sonoko. She isnt  perfect like everyone says, she is sometimes clumsy and a little bit tomboyish, and she cries a lot, she is a very complete character. And Ran's reason to exist is TO LOVE AND BEING LOVED BY SHINICHI!! Isnt that enough important!?

None of this is really important at all

Everyone's gonna discover conan's identity eventually, and what exactly is she protecting him from?

...to wait? really? to wait?

she never helps him solve cases, and never will

she's been involved with the BO once, and that still hasn't lead to anything

...when has she ever protected the DBs? They never even talk

oh wow she cooks, cleans, and has 3 friends, sounds legit important

and of course, that last point is just facepalm worthy
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Re: Importance of Ran as a character

Postby xUntouchedHopex » October 22nd, 2011, 4:38 pm

TAT Yes...they occur very rarely but i sill think that Ran is very important for Meitantei Conan

And stopwatch, im not english so i dont know what derailed means...and in the dictionary says that t means something about trains o.o.....

Parkur, she actuslly helped him to solve cases, and she solved cases herself and  she was involved with the BO more than once.
And whatever you want to say the fact is that now:Shinichi loves Ran and Ran loves Shinichi, and that's a very importamt reason for her eexistance
Oh yeah of course evryone...Only a few know about it and i still think that Rans knows about it too
Protcting him from the BO, murderers and culprits and whatever, she did it lots of times ;)
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Re: Importance of Ran as a character

Postby Stopwatch » October 22nd, 2011, 4:46 pm

xUntouchedHopex wrote:And stopwatch, im not english so i dont know what derailed means...and in the dictionary says that t means something about trains o.o.....

Ah, sorry, I meant that the last thing you said sort of ruined (derailed has a kind of similar meaning) quite a lot of the rest of it, because it says she's fully reliant on Shinichi instead of an independent person in her own right. I agree with most of the rest of what you said though :)
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Re: Importance of Ran as a character

Postby xUntouchedHopex » October 22nd, 2011, 5:32 pm

oh, dont worry :) i understand now...so i will edit ^^ arigatou :D
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Re: Importance of Ran as a character

Postby phreak_91 » October 22nd, 2011, 5:38 pm

xUntouchedHopex wrote:TAT Yes...they occur very rarely but i sill think that Ran is very important for Meitantei Conan

And stopwatch, im not english so i dont know what derailed means...and in the dictionary says that t means something about trains o.o.....

Parkur, she actuslly helped him to solve cases, and she solved cases herself and  she was involved with the BO more than once.
And whatever you want to say the fact is that now:Shinichi loves Ran and Ran loves Shinichi, and that's a very importamt reason for her eexistance
Oh yeah of course evryone...Only a few know about it and i still think that Rans knows about it too
Protcting him from the BO, murderers and culprits and whatever, she did it lots of times ;)


I only recall one instance when she was directly involved with the BO and that is when she saved Haibara.  In regards to solving a case by herself, I don't think that has ever happened.  I think there was one episode where she did it with only a little help from Conan, but that's about it.  She does currently love Shinichi, but things could always change.  Besides, just because one loves the main character doesn't mean that she is important as a character.
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Re: Importance of Ran as a character

Postby doublemoonlight » October 22nd, 2011, 6:00 pm

Parkur wrote:
doublemoonlight wrote:hmmm lets see with Ran  Shinnich would've got shrunk and then he will have NO home... NO way of solving cases... and thus NO way of meeting BO... yeah...


dude, it's kogoro's house, ran doesn't really matter there

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yeah but she is his daughter... do you think Ran dose not matter to Kogoro...
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Re: Importance of Ran as a character

Postby IHKF » October 22nd, 2011, 7:00 pm

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What... does that have to do with ANYTHING? XD
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Re: Importance of Ran as a character

Postby Vylash » October 22nd, 2011, 7:33 pm

IHKF wrote:^

What... does that have to do with ANYTHING? XD
i literally have no idea
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Re: Importance of Ran as a character

Postby Kleene Onigiri » October 22nd, 2011, 7:58 pm

Parkur you're wrong in that point. Ran is giving out hints for Conan. She is better at recognizing songs, although Conan has a perfect pitch. That's because Conan can recognize certain notes, but Ran has more knowledge about general music, since conan isn't interested in music (if it's not classic).
That helped in the nanatsu no ko case, or some other case with music.
She is also usually a witness, who can give out detailed information about what she saw (which is not something give actually).
And she also has knowledge in other subjects/stuff, like history or in "girl stuff" together with sonoko usually.
She usually also notices the "emotional part" about people that Conan can't see. Like "xyz looks sad, probably because this and that happened..." which gives Conan new clues about a case.

But plot wise, Ran can't be involved much anyway. Since if she would be involved more, she'd be nearer in discovering Conans identity/being targeted by BO. And Gosho doesn't want that currently. Similar to Haibara not being exposed to the BO. Since Gosho also doesn't want that currently.
That's why but, Ran and Haibara, aren't involved much in the "main plot/BO plot".

But if you look at the normal cases, Ran is more involved in them than Haibara, which makes her "more important".
But really, I don#t think you can compare them both equally. One is used more on normal cases, while the other one can be used more on BO cases. Doesn't mean any of them is less important :|
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Re: Importance of Ran as a character

Postby phreak_91 » October 22nd, 2011, 8:04 pm

The only reason Ran is involved in the normal cases is that she always is with Conan and her dad when they discover the murder.  To me, that's like saying that Inspector Megure is important as a character because he is at pretty much every crime scene that occurs in his district.
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Re: Importance of Ran as a character

Postby pofa » October 22nd, 2011, 8:23 pm

That depends on whether you think the murder cases or the BO plot are more important to DC. :V If you see the standalone murder cases as the point of the whole thing, as some people here do, you probably think Megure/Takagi/Kogoro, etc. are more vital characters than Gin/Akai/Jodie, etc. If you think the continuous BO storyline is the point, it's probably the opposite.

Then also, the people who think the romances are the point of the whole thing probably think Ran/Haibara, etc. are the most important characters. XD

As for me, I'm pretty sure it's all about Conan and nobody else matters too terribly much except as they relate to him. :x
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Re: Importance of Ran as a character

Postby Kleene Onigiri » October 22nd, 2011, 8:28 pm

phreak_91 wrote:The only reason Ran is involved in the normal cases is that she always is with Conan and her dad when they discover the murder.  To me, that's like saying that Inspector Megure is important as a character because he is at pretty much every crime scene that occurs in his district.


That's like saying: Haibara is just important because she happened to be in the BO and developed APTX. Thus she happens to be involved in BO cases.
Thus, if she wouldn't have developed APTX, she wouldn't be important (using IHKF's hypothetical logic here)
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Re: Importance of Ran as a character

Postby phreak_91 » October 22nd, 2011, 8:30 pm

Well, not necessarily.  She could have just been another victim and not have developed it herself. 
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Re: Importance of Ran as a character

Postby Kleene Onigiri » October 22nd, 2011, 8:39 pm

Ran could be another detective and be Shinichis rival. What's your point? :P
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Re: Importance of Ran as a character

Postby phreak_91 » October 22nd, 2011, 8:40 pm

She could. That might actually give her some real significance to the plot.  My point? I don't know if I even have one.
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