Importance of Ran as a character

[chinpokomon]

i thought alot about what ran's character contribute to the story and it seems it's... alomost nothing. she can only wait for shinichi like a good "housewife" and never try to reach to him or snoop around in order to see him more often and also when it comes to crucial parts like handling a criminal, i can count on one hand the number of times i saw ran uses her karate skills to help instead of shaking like a leaf or let the criminal escape(but she is good at busting up doors i'll give her that). i know it's too early for me to speak my mind since i only just began the 200's but it doesn't seem to me that it's ever gonna change.

DS' Note: I changed the topic title because it was the kind that leads to unproductive threads. I thought about closing it, but I think there is room for reasonable discussion of Ran's role, as long as everyone remains respectful and non-shrill.

[kkslider5552000]

well there is THAT episode...

she's also kinda awesome exactly 55 episodes after THAT episode too

yep

I still hope Gosho'll get a karate expert in the BO for her to knock unconscious towards the very end of the series. But I don't think there's anyone like that around. Oh well...

just began the 200's

Welcome to awesome land.

[chinpokomon]

well there is THAT episode...

nani nani? omoshiroi... can you tell me the what's THAT episode? or at leat the episode number?

[Wakarimashita]

345

[Kleene Onigiri]

There are a lot of characters that are mainly just there to give out leads in cases when they aren't directly involved in the BO cases.

[angelranchan]

What the hell you are saying?! Ran is the reason why Conan is working so hard to revert his body back
lets say Ran is out of the story,yeah Shinichi's probably looking for B.O. because he want to give justice,but you see...Ran is sometimes his inspiration...Ran is the one who kept Conan,even Agasa kept him,its not updated as in Ran's place...he can't use his Detective ability without Ran's fathers help...i'm really pissed off by saying that there's nothing important in Ran what's ur important in the world anyway? Importance can't be seen by our naked eyes,so you have to open your heart and mind to see the importance (not literally cut your heart) you guys are just too fascinate to other chara that you close ur heart and focus on the importance of that chara..i mean,you have to deepen your mind because by her character description you can't really see what's her importance...
She is helping too in cases,conan ask her to portray what the criminal do,she chase the criminals and done some karate...she cause conan to be out-of-mind or a time-off with his detective/brilliant mind (etc,imagining ran like that) and she soften the heart of some criminals,make them realize that what they've done is wrong.in movie 15

Spoiler:

ran is the reason why conan is still alive! That's true! O_O believe me! If you have watch DC Movie 15 spoiler,everybody is calling his name but he say he can't move his body,but when Ran(solo) called his name he suddenly realize that he have to live

there's so many times he save conan from danger even it means her life,what she have done in movie 13 is amazing...theres so many importance,i really love her character that's why i don't understand why some hate her.is just because she cries a lot and look stupid of waiting for shinichi? What the fart! X( people who hate her are silly i'm sorry

[oxen221]

Ran imo serves as a constant in Shinichi's life. He sees the worst of humanity frequently whether it's the murderer or the actions of their victims. Also, being a good detective is to not trust people easily or be fooled by their lies. Ran is someone he can count on, someone he can trust. Her feelings for him is genuine and unwavering, which I think is something Shinichi really needs in life. She isn't after him for his fame or wealth, traits allowing Sonoko to consider her her best friend.

Ran may not directly contribute to the solution of cases, but she is Shinichi's anchor; it makes her as important as anyone else in the series.

[sonoci]

@angelranchan: Whoa, calm down O_o This is an honest question.

i'm really pissed off by saying that there's nothing important in Ran what's ur important in the world anyway?

Whoa, really, what's the reason for the personal attack here? Even if someone was flaming Ran, there's no reason to insult the person indirectly to the matter.

Importance can't be seen by our naked eyes,so you have to open your heart and mind to see the importance (not literally cut your heart) you guys are just too fascinate to other chara that you close ur heart and focus on the importance of that chara..i mean,you have to deepen your mind because by her character description you can't really see what's her importance...

It could also be that maybe she doesn't have importance anymore. Really, when someone wonders about the importance of a character it's not exactly an attack.

in movie 15

Spoiler:

ran is the reason why conan is still alive! That's true! O_O believe me! If you have watch DC Movie 15 spoiler,everybody is calling his name but he say he can't move his body,but when Ran(solo) called his name he suddenly realize that he have to live

That was a movie, not canon.

i really love her character that's why i don't understand why some hate her.is just because she cries a lot and look stupid of waiting for shinichi? What the fart! X( people who hate her are silly i'm sorry

There's something that needs to be said here: you don't have to understand why some "hate" her. It's an opinion to like or dislike a character. What you're doing is the silly thing: your comment was basically the equivalent of tackling someone for the ground when they say they don't like your favorite color. I can understand being upset if something you liked was brutally flamed with no basis, but this was a purely innocent question.

Take a breath, read over what's been said (especially oxen's reply, as it was politely worded and thought out), and consider that maybe everyone doesn't think like you.

[Vylash]

What the hell you are saying?! Ran is the reason why Conan is working so hard to revert his body back

You don't think he's working hard to get his body back because he wants his body back?

Also, someone is a little too attached to a fictional character

[Sherry86]

What the hell you are saying?! Ran is the reason why Conan is working so hard to revert his body back

Actually, the one who worked so hard to revert their body back is Ai, not Conan.

[thebesteverinhistory]

I can kind of understand what she was saying. Thematically Ran serves as a moral contrast to the general population. While she isn't perfect it could be argued that possesses little if any structural impurity as a whole. This pure character is a necessary element in any well crafted story to serve as a standard to grade the deeds and motives of other characters like Kogoro, Ai, Sonoko and even Conan himself.

In addition she does of course serve another important purpose as the last link to Kudo Shinichi. While there are other characters that knew Shinichi before the change, his true link to his internal identity is Ran. While she isn't the only reason he wants his body back, she is more than likely the only thing keeping him from just accepting his new identity and leaving the old one behind.

The one thing that verifies this theory is the motive for his appearances both in the flesh and via other means of communications. And while not all of his physical transformations are solely for her benefit, she is certainly at the top of the list of people to see

Essentially, if Ran goes, she takes Shinichi with her. This of course is just what I've gleaned from the story

[ranger]

heheheheh..

[Kleene Onigiri]

What the hell you are saying?! Ran is the reason why Conan is working so hard to revert his body back

You don't think he's working hard to get his body back because he wants his body back?

Also, someone is a little too attached to a fictional character

Says the MLP lover XD


I agree with thebesteverinhistory :V
Without Ran, there wouldn't be any link to Shinichi. No one would talk about Shinichi. Haibara doesn't know "Shinichi" but Conan and know that he shrunk. So why talk about him? Agasa can also directly talk with Conan.
His parents could show the reader how Shinichi was, but they usually don't do that and are seldom being shown.
So Ran is the only link to Shinichi, where she can be used to show the past of Shinichi and his personality etc. compared to the Conan now.
And yeah, without Ran Conan could just move away with his parents (like they suggested to him) but Ran is the reason given he stays Ran is also the reason why he wants to turn back into his original form. Since as Conan, he knows the DBs and Hattori knows he's small. So he could choose to stay small if Ran weren't there (kinda like Haibara)

[kkslider5552000]

my problem with Ran is pretty much that everyone else has left her behind in character development. Things Ran does usually ultimately makes no difference to her character in the long run, even by the often subtle and arguably minimum-to-none character development this series usually has to offer.

It's gotten even worse when Gosho has run out of ideas of how to use her point to the story of the series as good ideas for her story in certain cases, because that pretty much was the closest thing to the plot of this series for years. It's really unfortunate, as it's like if Heiji was still "generic rival" instead of "awesome Osaka detective" or if Sonoko was "every guy obsessed teenage girl ever" instead of "surprisingly awesome Kid/Makoto obsessed girl".

[angelranchan]

sono-chi and the others,yeah...maybe i was too attach to a fictional chara...
thanks sono.chii i did what you suggest