Wait, wait, wait. What happened to me being an anti-fan? Did you find that statement difficult to defend, or was it merely another example of your habit to pontificate without good reason?
C'mon, Nyarl, you completely skipped over all of it!
Jd- wrote:Hey now! Wait!
Did you really just call me an "anti-fan"? I'm just re-reading that now to ensure that was the implication.
Wow, it was. Can you really question my dedication in any sense? I must be one hell of an anti-fan is all I can say. I've subbed more than half of every Detective Conan episode available in English. More than half. Of 622 episodes. That's not even counting most of the movies and all of the OVAs. I have stuck with this series at its best and at its worst. We both know you're attributing an argument to me that is not my own by saying that I am "frustrated" in any form. If I were "frustrated" at the (lack of) story progress, I wouldn't have continued to ensure there would always be high quality releases of both the anime and the manga, every week, for all these years. And the movies. And the OVAs. If that's the resume of an "anti-fan" who also happens to be someone who doesn't attack others at every turn simply for having a different opinion than them, I'll gladly take up that flag. Considering, you know, the "true fans" like you have, by comparison, done... virtually nothing but attack others that have done no personal harm to you.
I'll issue you a public challenge this time around. You usually avoid acknowledging anything but a very small portion of my posts in your replies, but why is that? Why continue to pick out what you must feel you only have a shot at defending and rebutting? Are you willing to say the rest is valid? If they are really so easily countered (as you very often imply), the counterarguments will be incredibly simple for you. It isn't like your time is really that precious--you invest a considerable amount of time visiting this place that you loathe so much. By thoroughly dissecting all of my posts with your supposedly ironclad logic, you would be able to do me in time after time, right? You know, instead of replying with pre-conceived soundbites meant to bolster your argument in "response" to bite-sized pieces of another. The challenge is a simple one: Simply answer all of the points I am raising in this post. It's very possible that I am completely wrong on some, which would make it very easy for you to answer. I think it is quite a fair challenge, and since your time is apparently coming to an end soon, it'd be a shame for you to run away from such a challenge now.
As for the temper statement: I can't just ignore you just because of your short temper leading to any given post because, if I did that, I'd be ignoring all of your posts (I was raised to not be so rude; unlike you, it would seem). I mean, let's be honest--you only seem to operate in one of two modes ("angry at the world" and "on the verge of being angry with the world").
I notice you cherry picked one statement to reply to in regards to my taking you to task on how haphazardly you apply the "anti-fan" label. Why is that? Afraid you may have been wrong in applying it in the first place and thus unable to actually defend it with a full reply? In fact, your entire argument (detailed in the opening monologue to the "Nyarl vs. The World" manifesto) relies upon everyone else being "in the clique", but if you actually ever bothered to read any discussions here... you would notice that I tend to disagree with people
all the time. I am, in fact, often in the minority, and I have no problem with that. Again, the difference is I don't condemn people solely out of having a differing opinion. Try it sometime. Your imaginary "super anti-fan clique" is just that--imaginary. There is no cohesive clique that's out to get you.
If you would ever stop and listen to someone else sometime, you would remember what I told you weeks ago: No matter whether what you're saying about some aspect of the series is true or not,
you cannot rave like a lunatic if you want to be taken seriously. No one listens to the one that cannot present a clear, reasoned, and respectful argument. If all you will ever do is attack others, no one will ever care what you have to say. If you would apply those arguments to a calmer and less antagonistic approach, it would very likely cease having the complete opposite effect. Notice that I am not saying you are "wrong" about whatever arguments you're making about the "facts" of the series here. That's because that simply does not matter when your demeanor is as callous as yours, as I told you before. If you act like you are out of your mind, people are going to treat you as such.
Just a tip: "It's their fault" isn't a particularly good defense for operating with such a meretricious disregard for others.
There
is room for perpetual grudges, absolutely. The problem is that they are reserved for those that have nothing better to do with their lives than let them be run by the ill will of others. Do you have any idea how many people have targeted me and DCTP over the years, and never let up in their pure hatred for us?
(I promise you they number far greater than what you have described for your end) The key to coming out on top and standing for something is never letting them get to you. If you are doing things for the right reasons, no amount of animosity will be able to keep you down. But, if you become part of the hate machine (as you apparently so willingly have), you've already long lost.
Ever notice that I very rarely have anything to say when it comes to the couples in the series and all that which you so commonly obsess over? It's because I just so happen to know that the series is what it is. If Ran really is such a fine sleuth, she doesn't need Nyarl to attack others in her defense. If your argument is, as you so often claim, based on "fact" and "evidence", then they are their own defense. Unfortunately for you, you rarely (well, never) leave it at that. If you replied to others with fact-based arguments that were not born out of deep-seated animosity for those that disagree with you, your posts would mean something.
I hate to break it to you, but a great amount of what you continually claim against "the clique" simply isn't as fact-based as you are so keen to believe. Here, are you actually claiming that Ran is
literally and undeniably a better detective than her father? Is that really a
fact or is that something that is up for debate? Hint: It's the latter as of this writing. Whether you like to use that as leverage for stating she isn't one of the "dumber" characters is inconsequential because of the fact that someone saying she is "one of the dumber characters" doesn't mean anything without an actual list. That's just another reason that your arguments aren't what you want them to be--so much of it is simply subjective. For example: How many "smart" characters are there in the series on which you are making this argument? If you are actually attempting to make an argument that appeals solely to the facts, stop injecting so much bias into it. To prove them wrong with something even resembling "facts", make a list of every recurring character in the series with their entire intelligence-based accomplishments listed and provide that to anyone that "hates on" your waifu.
Politics, and especially consensus, mean absolutely nothing to me. Do you even read these forums, or do you just come here to vent? As was stated earlier in this post: I am virtually always in the minority. If I cared about the politics or the consensus, I would continually placate others just to get them on my side for the next argument. You're not going to see me doing that--I don't hold back my opinion on something just because it may prove the unpopular one (anyone that's ever spoken to me should know that by now).
Now, Nyarlkins, are you ready for me to blow the lid off your entire argument?
If I lent any credence to the Conan community's consensus, Movie 14 would be among the best Conan movies ever made. Unfortunately for you, I--unlike "the consensus"--consider it one of the worst if not
the worst.
Well, so much for that! Thanks for playing, see you next time.
