ShiraKiryuu wrote:Shuusgirl wrote:I really like Ran because she's not so...independent as some of the heroines I read about (at least here in the US). She's still vulnerable, not so much of a "I don't need help, I don't need a man, I don't need anyone but me" type character. I guess I'm trying to say that she's not "Super Ran" and I really like that.
But that type of character trait for a heroine is too mainstream.

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pofa wrote:Detective Gin wrote:What is M and S?
Clearly, an overwhelming majority believes Kaito prefers M&Ms over Skittles.
Which, I mean, duh. No contest.
That's like 75% of the girls in my townBaritsu Master wrote:Ran has seen her parent's divorce, her father become a drunk, and her boyfriend disappear. Tough life.

ProfParanoia wrote:That's like 75% of the girls in my townBaritsu Master wrote:Ran has seen her parent's divorce, her father become a drunk, and her boyfriend disappear. Tough life.
ShiraKiryuu wrote:Except that Kogoro and Eri aren't divorced, just living separately.
). It's quite depressing that way.
She tries to kill herself once or twice and suddenly shes labeled as "suicidal"Wakarimashita wrote:I pretty much like both characters, but I had a preference for Ai before. However, now I like Ran more given what Haibara has become. The Ai I like is lonely, depressed and suicidal.
1Kaito wrote:She tries to kill herself once or twice and suddenly shes labeled as "suicidal"Wakarimashita wrote:I pretty much like both characters, but I had a preference for Ai before. However, now I like Ran more given what Haibara has become. The Ai I like is lonely, depressed and suicidal. ;D


Wakarimashita wrote:1Kaito wrote:She tries to kill herself once or twice and suddenly shes labeled as "suicidal"Wakarimashita wrote:I pretty much like both characters, but I had a preference for Ai before. However, now I like Ran more given what Haibara has become. The Ai I like is lonely, depressed and suicidal. ;D
And had she succeeded, she would have been labeled as "dead", now that would have been outrageous, don't you think ?

Baritsu Master wrote:It's sad when your friends put the word 'poor' in front of your name. Poor,sad, suicidal, lonely, depressed Ran. Does Shinichi think he'll be able to waltz right in some day and solve all her anxieties? I don't think so!




randompi314159 wrote:ShiraKiryuu wrote:Shuusgirl wrote:I really like Ran because she's not so...independent as some of the heroines I read about (at least here in the US). She's still vulnerable, not so much of a "I don't need help, I don't need a man, I don't need anyone but me" type character. I guess I'm trying to say that she's not "Super Ran" and I really like that.
But that type of character trait for a heroine is too mainstream.
Depending on the perspective one views the DC and other past experience, I could see both perspectives. I believe Japan is an collectivistic society while America is a individualistic, so having Ran the way she is seems to naturally fit in perfectly with collectivistic views where everyone is interdependent. While growing up in America, we view things displaying independence and there was the whole women's suffrage you to and independence thing going on. So if you were to view this with a more western perspective and wanting to see something different from independent women and what not, then Ran's character would be rather appealing. Whereas, if you'd rather see a character as independent, Ran wouldn't be as great of an example as opposed to some of the other characters.
Personally, I liked both Ran and Haibara from the moment they were both introduced, as both had characteristics that stood out and admirable, though like most, I liked how Haibara was before but at least she has shown growth throughout the series.
kirite wrote:1. Always smiling, unless she's with Shinichi:
Ran doesn't show her emotion in front of other people, either it's because she doesn't want people to worry about her or because she doesn't feel that it's the polite thing to do (like telling creeps to eff off before she rips their arms off, etc). She was also ^_^ when she punched a pole in the first chapter, so she smiles to hide her scary angry face too~ The only person she will really cry to is Shinichi and recently Conan because she finds them dependable.
Arisana wrote:I might be wrong, but I believe that Ran also has some of these traits:
-Honest/Genuine
-Slight lack of confidence (She seems rather confident when it comes to Karate, but when it comes to something that is not her field (ie. deduction), she lacks confidence. Although this can be a result of having a childhood friend as brilliant as Shinichi is)
-Imaginative (To some extent. Unlike many people, she's open minded/imaginative enough to even consider the possibility of Shinichi being shrunk)
-Sensitive, emotional (We've seen this several times, and she does get worked up over small things every so often)
-can be logical and intelligent--emotions don't stop her from thinking either
-dependable, responsible/has a strong sense of duty--She cares for her father after her mother left, and even when other people don't care where Conan has gone, she still goes out of her way to find him and keep him out of trouble. She also bothers to clean Shinichi's house when he has not shown up for such a long time.
She's also a bit of a peacemaker, being someone who seems to dislike conflict. We've seen her trying to mend her parents' relationship several times. Ran also makes a great deal of effort to build meaningful, instead of shallow, relationships with people. For instance, she didn't want to use Sonoko's money for the wrong reasons, since she wants to be a friend to Sonoko, not someone who would use Sonoko simply due to the fact that she is rich.
In addition, she has a tendency to look at the general overview of things/situations, causing her to miss small details. This is likely why I believe that she is unable to discover Conan's identity after many tries--when Conan fools her, she misses the small details that refute what Conan claims, causing her to believe that Conan does not equal Shinichi.
She has many good traits, but some that are not exactly the best traits. But that's what makes Ran a realistic character, in some ways. I believe that she is a fairly well rounded character.
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