Shinichi playing the violin?

[kyuuketsuki]

Honestly, I think they messed up on that, and that it's not very characteristic for him to play the violin. I'm pretty sure it's never shown in canonical material for two reasons.

1) In the very first episode he says he pretty much used Soccer/Football in place of Holme's Hobby of playing the Violin.

2) Pretty Tone deaf and had to rely solely on others to figure out the pattern for the BO's number.

#2 is FALSE! He asked others, but it was his initial analysis that ended up being right, which was confirmed by the musician with perfect pitch, who even said he had a good ear! On top of that it is shown that he can read and play music in the Moonlight Sonata case. I think he has perfect pitch but can't sing for some reason. Just because you can't match the notes with your voice does not mean you don't know what the notes are when you hear them. In the moonlight sonata case he decoded the message on the fly using only his ears!

[Mead]

Hmmm, I had totally forgot about that, Good point.

[dilbertschalter]

Honestly, I think they messed up on that, and that it's not very characteristic for him to play the violin. I'm pretty sure it's never shown in canonical material for two reasons.

1) In the very first episode he says he pretty much used Soccer/Football in place of Holme's Hobby of playing the Violin.

2) Pretty Tone deaf and had to rely solely on others to figure out the pattern for the BO's number.

#2 is FALSE! He asked others, but it was his initial analysis that ended up being right, which was confirmed by the musician with perfect pitch, who even said he had a good ear! On top of that it is shown that he can read and play music in the Moonlight Sonata case. I think he has perfect pitch but can't sing for some reason. Just because you can't match the notes with your voice does not mean you don't know what the notes are when you hear them. In the moonlight sonata case he decoded the message on the fly using only his ears!

I had always assumed (always=since I found out who Minami Takayama was) that Conan not being able sing is a gag more than anything else- it's supposed to be funny that a character voiced by a singer can't sing, but it doesn't mean much or have a serious explanation.

[Treyvoni]

I had always assumed (always=since I found out who Minami Takayama was) that Conan not being able sing is a gag more than anything else- it's supposed to be funny that a character voiced by a singer can't sing, but it doesn't mean much or have a serious explanation.

Yeah, I agree with you, but so many people take it seriously that in order to refute it, we need to take it seriously or else a there is too much misinformation running rampant.

Shinichi is a horrid singer. Full stop. Hey the kid can't be perfect in everything!

[kyuuketsuki]

Shinichi cannot do two things...

1) sing

2) fight

The second thing I always found as a big oversight on his part... Holmes was proficient in 3 fighting styles... Single stick, Bartitsu and bare knuckle boxing... Shinichi? He is proficient in Soccer-fu apparently... The style of kicking a ball at someone and somehow knocking them out...

[kirite]

Well...his soccer-fu does kick guns out of people's hands...

[Treyvoni]

And he's pretty good at improvising soccer balls, like the globe in the first episode/chapter.  And he CAN fire a gun, he just doesn't own one himself. However, compared to Sherlock Holmes in that regard, he does fall short. And yet, he has Ran - who knows Karate, and Kogoro who knows Judo.

As the Shonen Tantei Dan they are woefully underpowered to handle crims though.

[Freyr]

His is handicapped in the fighting department, being pint-sized and all. So Gosho surrounded him with other characters that can fight for him if needed.

Doubt we would really be watching it if he was a tiny martial artist as well.

[kyuuketsuki]

Anyone can fire a gun (and isn't his ability with a gun noncannon?) Also, even if he can, and he becomes a detective in the future he still needs to know hand to hand combat. The fact that he doesn't means that he can't control a close quarters situation, and this is very bad. All police are required to learn some fighting system. And if he idolizes Holmes I'd think that would be one of the things you'd want to take up because learning such things SAVED HIS LIFE!

Also... a 7 year old who is a martial artist still can't win in a fight, so even if he DID know martial arts it wouldn't help him without his adult body. (That is unless he is a prodigy in Aikido or Hapkido, which many of the advanced moves do not need size or strength)

[Treyvoni]

Anyone can fire a gun (and isn't his ability with a gun noncannon?) Also, even if he can, and he becomes a detective in the future he still needs to know hand to hand combat. The fact that he doesn't means that he can't control a close quarters situation, and this is very bad. All police are required to learn some fighting system. And if he idolizes Holmes I'd think that would be one of the things you'd want to take up because learning such things SAVED HIS LIFE!

Also... a 7 year old who is a martial artist still can't win in a fight, so even if he DID know martial arts it wouldn't help him without his adult body. (That is unless he is a prodigy in Aikido or Hapkido, which many of the advanced moves do not need size or strength)

He uses a gun in the manga as well, one instance off the top of my head is the Bus Jacking case. And not everyone can fire a gun, what if the safety is on and you don't know how to disengage it. Having never held a gun in my life, I feel assured to say I wouldn't know what to do with one (it seems simple, it's a point and clink interface - just shoot and shoot and shoot, but what about that pesky thing called aiming, and reloading, and if you aren't used to the recoil that sort of vibrations would numb the arms pretty quickly, yeah?)

Having been a martial artist for years, and having helped oversee some little kid training, I can say a seven year old can pick a fight with other kids well enough, but anyone past puberty is well beyond even a near black belt's ability. It simply has to do with size, weight and power. Yeah, they might get in a few lucky shots (Shin kicks hurt, so does instep and groin, but it won't incapacitate an attacker forever).

[Dus]

Well there is a picture of Him playing a recorder in Episode 18, So the part of him playing a musical instrument is canon, but it is not a Violin. But I believe that was a Manga cover with that though.

And it said that he pretty much sucked at playing that recorder, and that was when it was introduced that he was "tone-deaf". Gosho just re-arranged the facts later on for plot's sake.

[Treyvoni]

And it said that he pretty much sucked at playing that recorder, and that was when it was introduced that he was "tone-deaf". Gosho just re-arranged the facts later on for plot's sake.

We've pretty much debunked the 'Tone-deaf' bit in the rest of this topic though. Even some of the most basic things in the Manga/Anime would be impossible if he was handicapped in such a way.

[kyuuketsuki]

Treyvoni, I'm also a martial artist. I have trained countless kids to black belt. Which is why I know that a martial artist kid could do nothing against an adult unless they were a prodigy in a soft art.

I don't recall the gun bit... So whatever... But again, it doesn't take a genius to learn how to use a gun. Especially if you learned about them to become a detective. What takes practice is aim and maintenance.

[Treyvoni]

Treyvoni, I'm also a martial artist. I have trained countless kids to black belt. Which is why I know that a martial artist kid could do nothing against an adult unless they were a prodigy in a soft art.

I don't recall the gun bit... So whatever... But again, it doesn't take a genius to learn how to use a gun. Especially if you learned about them to become a detective. What takes practice is aim and maintenance.

Not knowing much of hapkido or akido, seeing as my martial art is Tae Kwon Do, I have to defer to your understanding in the 'soft arts'. But essentially we are saying the same thing. The kids are rather helpless, yet there isn't much he could do, since he is a kid.

The gun bit is File 289 in volume 29, page 13 and on.

[kirite]

There is also the bit where Shinichi fires a gun expertly in Magic Kaito.  Not sure if you'll count that though.