Mistake? or Mystery? [About Vermouth]

[KaitoGirl]

There's a mystery that I've thinking a few days ago, it was that:

how the heck Vermouth doesnt's age? well, my first though was that she take the APTX4869 but, how? If she take it that means that the B.O knows about the effect that cause and that would mean (for them) that Shinichi is still alive, then? how she did it to don't age?

And also is that Chris = Sharon and also the killer of Jodie's father (Jodie was 6-7 years old that time, and as we know the killer was young and pretty) so, she killed Jodie's father, and appeared on the trip to New York as Sharon Vineyard, but she also appeared as Chris Vineyard in front of Conan (when she try to take Haibara disguised as Araide), that means that after the trip to N.Y. she became younger by NO REASON seemingly. And also when she calls Gin (after she try to take Haibara disguised as Araide and then she takes Conan on her car but Conan have a dispositive and blablabla...) when Vermouth told Gin about Shuuichi, he said "Oh, yeah... that FBI agent that you almost killed a year ago when you lured him out disguising yourself as a phantom killer in New York". That means that he already knew about Chris = Sharon  and he never have asked why she don't age?

Like a last proof is that moments before Shinichi was given the APTX4869 Gin said:

If you didn't understand me or need some proof you have the Files were you can find all this: Thew new poison the organization developed... We haven't tested it on humans yet..."

Vermouth VS Jodie (and Gin's words on the phone call that Vermouth did):

File 433 - 434

Trip to New York:

File 350 - 354

Gin's words, before use the APTX4869 in Shinichi:

File 1

Well, I hope if someone know or have think about this and have an answer, let me know.

[randompi314159]

Well, Vermouth could've had some connections to the scientists developing the drug prior to its "completion" and tested it and didn't tell anyone. Or it could be for some other reason not explained yet.

[xpon]

what a nice and interesting topic we have here
but i just want to remind to all of you a couple of things ( and i add my personal opinion in the italic words)

1. Gin is not the best friend for Vermouth ( they usually have a bad term. why? because i think gin is jealous with vermouth being the Boss most loved one)

2. Vermouth is the Boss most loved one, so she may or can get the most secret experimental and not all her action is known to the rest of BO member

3. i think that Sharon in newyork when shinichi and ran goes there is already Chris but in disguise.

[KaitoGirl]

That is really interesting, xpon. And I didn't know that Vermouth was boss beloved one. Is good to know that. And maybe you're right. Is good to learn something good every day LOL better when isn't something from school 

[Akemi~chan]

i personally think....pandora. the rumors had to start somehow and knowing vermouth's tendancy for games found it and hid it again. she's an inside traitor (i think) she wants shinichi to tak them down

[xpon]

That is really interesting, xpon. And I didn't know that Vermouth was boss beloved one. Is good to know that. And maybe you're right. Is good to learn something good every day LOL better when isn't something from school 

ok!.. just 1 simple question
Just how many time did you finish read Conan Manga from chapter1 until the latest chapter, 733 ?

ha ha ha

And for me... well i dont know.. it's hard because i really like to read them over and over.... but there is some case i only read once or twice.

i personally think....pandora. the rumors had to start somehow and knowing vermouth's tendancy for games found it and hid it again. she's an inside traitor (i think) she wants shinichi to tak them down

i believe she ( vermouth) is tired being a bad woman. and because of her disguise skills. even if conan wipe the entire BO force. she can save her self by disguise and live in other place.

[Abs.]

ok!.. just 1 simple question
Just how many time did you finish read Conan Manga from chapter1 until the latest chapter, 733 ?

The better question would be "How many times did you finish reading Detective Conan, translated accurately, from File 1 to the latest: File 733?"

Because it doesn't matter how many times you've read it if you read it wrong. 

[Akemi~chan]

i personally think....pandora. the rumors had to start somehow and knowing vermouth's tendancy for games found it and hid it again. she's an inside traitor (i think) she wants shinichi to tak them down

i believe she ( vermouth) is tired being a bad woman. and because of her disguise skills. even if conan wipe the entire BO force. she can save her self by disguise and live in other place.

true, thats my point. i get it but her not aging was the point i was getting at

[Olive]

I would agree with Pi. If APTX-4869 was originally meant to be something else, Gin might not know about it's production or what the goal of the project really was. He doesn't strike me as a real sciencey guy. Even if some members of the BO are aware that Vermouth doesn't age, they might not know why, and I would not be surprised if Vermouth didn't disclose that information to them. It would explain some of the resentment and distrust that some members seem to hold against her.

On the subject of Pandora, wouldn't it be interesting if it was a myth invented by Vermouth when questioned about how she stopped aging? O:
It would certainly explain just how ridiculous the Pandora myth is. (For instance, the comet that is supposed to make it possible to use Pandora apparently only comes around every ten thousand years? Perhaps the story is designed as a disincentive for subordinates to keep the gem, but otherwise, it doesn't make much sense. Who would have been able to record that myth that long ago and keep it alive to the present?)

[sstimson]

I have had a theory for a long time. We are lead to believe that but for Sherry not one knows what the drug does. My theory would turn this on its head. What if the higher ups in the BO know that truth? What if Conan was a planned experiment? That would mean that Sherry, THE BOSS, Gin and Vermount know the truth. How would that change the picture? Sherry needed to join Conan to keep an eye on her experiment.

[xpon]

ok!.. just 1 simple question
Just how many time did you finish read Conan Manga from chapter1 until the latest chapter, 733 ?

The better question would be "How many times did you finish reading Detective Conan, translated accurately, from File 1 to the latest: File 733?"

Because it doesn't matter how many times you've read it if you read it wrong. 

you got that right!!!

[KaitoGirl]

xOx you made feel like an idiot (no comments, please XD) just one. I read it on holidays but now I been reading some ramdom chapters (just the more important), so... I guess that's explain my stupidity xOx

Well, the second thing (about the translate) I read it on onemanga.com and sometimes the scan guy change and sometimes the scans were pretty bad xOx


About the Pandora thing, I remember that Shiho/Ai once said to Conan that the number of the B.O was a Pandora's box if someone open it the more awful disgraces and problems will come (I think it was something like that), so maybe is not recounted like the myth we know and is recounted like a metaphor.

[KaitoGirl]

sstimson LOL that's a REALLY good pint! (Y) you're awesome! 

[xpon]

I have had a theory for a long time. We are lead to believe that but for Sherry not one knows what the drug does. My theory would turn this on its head. What if the higher ups in the BO know that truth? What if Conan was a planned experiment? That would mean that Sherry, THE BOSS, Gin and Vermount know the truth. How would that change the picture? Sherry needed to join Conan to keep an eye on her experiment.

okay.. now you trying to make my little brown haired tsundere angle to become a devil under sheep skin ..

damn you. :p

no.. but if your theories is the truth.. belive me.. i'll delete ALL Conan Related files from my memory , Harddisk, and all the poster in my room

[Akemi~chan]

the pandora Gem is a gem the grants imortality when a certain comet passes at a certain time. it's said so in Magic Kaito. magic kaito often crosses over with Detective Conan as KID and KID is after pandora to stop snake and the black guys from getting it.