Conan+Ayumi

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And a Happy new year fellow AyuCon fans!

I LOVE IT!! The two children under the ayucon drawing are also Conan and Ayumi?

Yes, they are. It's one of those AO (Anime Originals) with that traveling theater group.

And well... happy new year everyone.

Thanks! I was a bit confused because Conan seems bald here XD.
Happy new year!

It seems like there are more and more AyumixConan fans emerging from the depths of YouTube and Fanfiction.net!

I'm so happy! x3

Sooner or later we won't be such a small pairing fandom. I'm sure of it. =w=

I must write more AyumixConan fanfiction... start making AMV's again....

AyumixConan forever!

So I was wondering...

Exactly what chance do you guys think there is of Shinichi and Conan separating and Conan going with Ayumi? I personally think the chances are high. Considering the fact that Gosho likes HAPPY endings, it wouldn't be a happy ending if somebody was left heartbroken. Ayumi up to date has shown no real interest in anybody besides astonishment at their abilities. (The closest thing she has to a second crush would be Kamen Yaiba. ) That would mean she wouldn't have a happy ending if she didn't end up with Conan?

[Schillok]

Exactly what chance do you guys think there is of Shinichi and Conan separating and Conan going with Ayumi? I personally think the chances are high. Considering the fact that Gosho likes HAPPY endings, it wouldn't be a happy ending if somebody was left heartbroken. Ayumi up to date has shown no real interest in anybody besides astonishment at their abilities. (The closest thing she has to a second crush would be Kamen Yaiba. ) That would mean she wouldn't have a happy ending if she didn't end up with Conan?

Are you reposting the same post over and over again? Aww, come on we are not that desperate to be on the first page.

But no, I think the series is settled too close to reality. Except for the whole set-up of a "shrinking high-school teenager detective now solving cases as a 1st-year grade schooler" the series refrains from creating unreasonable twins, mirror-images, alternate reality/word doubleganger etc.
So no, I don't expect an extra Conan for Ayumi when Shinichi returns.
There are still other options to keep a "happy love ending" for everyone. Easiest would be for Ayumi to find a new love (whoever that might be - a new character or someone she knows already). Or for Conan to remain Conan and choose her (because he can't return to being Shinichi anymore).

[IHKF]

But no, I think the series is settled too close to reality. Except for the whole set-up of a "shrinking high-school teenager detective now solving cases as a 1st-year grade schooler" the series refrains from creating unreasonable twins, mirror-images, alternate reality/word doubleganger etc.
So no, I don't expect an extra Conan for Ayumi when Shinichi returns.
There are still other options to keep a "happy love ending" for everyone. Easiest would be for Ayumi to find a new love (whoever that might be - a new character or someone she knows already). Or for Conan to remain Conan and choose her (because he can't return to being Shinichi anymore).

Well with the science that Gosho presents, there are many ways that he could separate them that wouldn't be too far gone from reality. That is why I think it is a possibility that they will separate.

The reason I doubt that Ayumi will find a new love interest is because that ending would seem... forced. If he does it correctly, then the separation theory wouldn't seem quite as forced but to suddenly bring a random character into the equation or just throwing her together with somebody like Genta (there is honestly no doubt in my mind Haibara will end up with Mitsuhiko XD) when she hasn't showed any interest before would seem a tad bit off. And Ayumi, while there have been plenty of suitable boys, has lacked interest in any of them. The only boy she's ever shown any romantic interest towards is Conan. That's why I figured "Well if he wants a happy ending..."

(And then there's my second theory that I seriously doubt will happen in which Ran is killed by one of the BO members, Conan goes crazy, and the DB and others have to remind him what he still has and bring him back to normal but that wouldn't be a happy ending although I sincerely wouldn't mind it at all. XD)

[Schillok]

But no, I think the series is settled too close to reality. Except for the whole set-up of a "shrinking high-school teenager detective now solving cases as a 1st-year grade schooler" the series refrains from creating unreasonable twins, mirror-images, alternate reality/word doubleganger etc.
So no, I don't expect an extra Conan for Ayumi when Shinichi returns.
There are still other options to keep a "happy love ending" for everyone. Easiest would be for Ayumi to find a new love (whoever that might be - a new character or someone she knows already). Or for Conan to remain Conan and choose her (because he can't return to being Shinichi anymore).

Well with the science that Gosho presents, there are many ways that he could separate them that wouldn't be too far gone from reality. That is why I think it is a possibility that they will separate.

He keeps science as close to reality as possible. Aside from the shrinking process itself (and even worse: The antidotes) the science in the DC world is real world science.
The only other things that are a bit unrealistic are Conans gadgets. While some of them seem at least possible with todays techniques (DB badges and flashlight-watches) most of them would simply not work or at least be much weaker/restricted in their abilities (bow-tie, shoes, suspenders, skateboard, belt, etc.). But I don't think an Agasa gadget will be the solution to his shrinking.
[Though... the idea of a Shinichi-Robot replacing the original Shinichi and Conan remaining Conan without a way to turn that crazy thing off which just took his old life sounds... interesting. ]

The reason I doubt that Ayumi will find a new love interest is because that ending would seem... forced. If he does it correctly, then the separation theory wouldn't seem quite as forced but to suddenly bring a random character into the equation or just throwing her together with somebody like Genta (there is honestly no doubt in my mind Haibara will end up with Mitsuhiko XD) when she hasn't showed any interest before would seem a tad bit off. And Ayumi, while there have been plenty of suitable boys, has lacked interest in any of them. The only boy she's ever shown any romantic interest towards is Conan. That's why I figured "Well if he wants a happy ending..."

It is also possible to be a happy ending without Ayumi immediately having a new love. It is much more likely that the current trend continues and Ayumi's feeling for Conan are less and less mentioned until most readers forgot about them.
Then when Shinichi returns... there won't be any mentioning of those scenes and she would just miss him just as much as Genta and Mitsuhiko.

(And then there's my second theory that I seriously doubt will happen in which Ran is killed by one of the BO members, Conan goes crazy, and the DB and others have to remind him what he still has and bring him back to normal but that wouldn't be a happy ending although I sincerely wouldn't mind it at all. XD)

I think Ran is one of the less likely main characters to die in DC (story-telling wise). On the other hand, the DBs themselves are even less likely, so if a massacre happens they have good chances to get out alive. But you better are not a FBI/CIA in that scenario.  ).
Also this scenario ends with something that I (personally) don't like: Ran dying FORCING Conan to give up on her. I would rather have him decide for himself to give up on Ran, to accept that he is his "big sister" now. And of course to fall in love with Ayumi once he is over the break-up.

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But no, I think the series is settled too close to reality. Except for the whole set-up of a "shrinking high-school teenager detective now solving cases as a 1st-year grade schooler" the series refrains from creating unreasonable twins, mirror-images, alternate reality/word doubleganger etc.
So no, I don't expect an extra Conan for Ayumi when Shinichi returns.
There are still other options to keep a "happy love ending" for everyone. Easiest would be for Ayumi to find a new love (whoever that might be - a new character or someone she knows already). Or for Conan to remain Conan and choose her (because he can't return to being Shinichi anymore).

Well with the science that Gosho presents, there are many ways that he could separate them that wouldn't be too far gone from reality. That is why I think it is a possibility that they will separate.

He keeps science as close to reality as possible. Aside from the shrinking process itself (and even worse: The antidotes) the science in the DC world is real world science.
The only other things that are a bit unrealistic are Conans gadgets. While some of them seem at least possible with todays techniques (DB badges and flashlight-watches) most of them would simply not work or at least be much weaker/restricted in their abilities (bow-tie, shoes, suspenders, skateboard, belt, etc.). But I don't think an Agasa gadget will be the solution to his shrinking.
[Though... the idea of a Shinichi-Robot replacing the original Shinichi and Conan remaining Conan without a way to turn that crazy thing off which just took his old life sounds... interesting. ]

The reason I doubt that Ayumi will find a new love interest is because that ending would seem... forced. If he does it correctly, then the separation theory wouldn't seem quite as forced but to suddenly bring a random character into the equation or just throwing her together with somebody like Genta (there is honestly no doubt in my mind Haibara will end up with Mitsuhiko XD) when she hasn't showed any interest before would seem a tad bit off. And Ayumi, while there have been plenty of suitable boys, has lacked interest in any of them. The only boy she's ever shown any romantic interest towards is Conan. That's why I figured "Well if he wants a happy ending..."

It is also possible to be a happy ending without Ayumi immediately having a new love. It is much more likely that the current trend continues and Ayumi's feeling for Conan are less and less mentioned until most readers forgot about them.
Then when Shinichi returns... there won't be any mentioning of those scenes and she would just miss him just as much as Genta and Mitsuhiko.

(And then there's my second theory that I seriously doubt will happen in which Ran is killed by one of the BO members, Conan goes crazy, and the DB and others have to remind him what he still has and bring him back to normal but that wouldn't be a happy ending although I sincerely wouldn't mind it at all. XD)

I think Ran is one of the less likely main characters to die in DC (story-telling wise). On the other hand, the DBs themselves are even less likely, so if a massacre happens they have good chances to get out alive. But you better are not a FBI/CIA in that scenario.  ).
Also this scenario ends with something that I (personally) don't like: Ran dying FORCING Conan to give up on her. I would rather have him decide for himself to give up on Ran, to accept that he is his "big sister" now. And of course to fall in love with Ayumi once he is over the break-up.

1... LOL xD Yeah. That sounds... interesting...

But I'm sure there would be some way to scientifically explain how Shinichi and Conan separated. If we, in reality, were able to find a way to travel to the future, then I'm pretty sure Gosho could explain possibly flawed cloning. XD

2. Not immediately, yes, but who says it will be immediate? XD I don't think Gosho would do that with the way he has recently continued Ayumi's crush on Conan. (In other words, him holding her hand, her cowering behind him, him grabbing her arm in the snow...) He's laid it down so that Ayumi has a strong crush on Conan and she wouldn't take it easy for him to leave. He keeps Ayumi as a very important character. That's why I think he won't do that (and if he does, that is horrible HORRIBLE writing).

3. He wouldn't be forced to give up on her, in fact, he could hang onto the memories and not really move past that event in his life by choice. If he wanted to he could even end it all to be with her (although I doubt it since he's... you know... the whole justice type. But then that's what I mean when I say he goes crazy.)

I would like to see him having issues between deciding to stay with Ran OR Ayumi, really.

[Schillok]

1... LOL xD Yeah. That sounds... interesting...

But I'm sure there would be some way to scientifically explain how Shinichi and Conan separated. If we, in reality, were able to find a way to travel to the future, then I'm pretty sure Gosho could explain possibly flawed cloning. XD

But it is impossible to travel to the future. Which results we would have to result to cloning - which IS possible nowadays. Though not in the way you probably mean.
Cloning is not able to create an exact replica. We won't suddenly have 2 Conans (or 1 Conan and 1 Shinichi). We would have Conan/Shinichi and a clone of Conan/Shinichi.

Now we can assume a crazy conspiracy: Shinichi is a genetically engineered human. This would explain his superior intelligence, perceptiveness and fitness. Of course he isn't the only one - he is just one of many clones. That would explain Kaito, who looks so similar to him and also has superior traits. Out there there must be even more clones, likely the same age as Shinichi or maybe even Ayumis age (if the program continued for 10 years).
But even then: There is only one Conan/Shinichi. Either Ran or Ayumi would have to end up without him and instead with someone who looks like him and likely behaves similar to him - but would not have their shared memories. They sure might make a good couple despite those missing links to their past, but... it is still not the same. 

2. Not immediately, yes, but who says it will be immediate? XD I don't think Gosho would do that with the way he has recently continued Ayumi's crush on Conan. (In other words, him holding her hand, her cowering behind him, him grabbing her arm in the snow...) He's laid it down so that Ayumi has a strong crush on Conan and she wouldn't take it easy for him to leave. He keeps Ayumi as a very important character. That's why I think he won't do that (and if he does, that is horrible HORRIBLE writing).

Unfortunately him helping and protecting Ayumi so far is due to his tendency to protect everyone...
While it surely enforces Ayumis feelings for him, it does not prevent her from having to give him up once he gets out of her reach (because "Conan left forever" or because she knows that he returned to being Shinichi).
But it also means that him protecting her is nothing special, nothing that would develop the pairing any more than at what it currently is. And to be honest, Ayumis crush is less and less mentioned in the series. Maybe because Gosho has no idea what to do with this pairing, maybe because he realized that he has no easy way out of this situation that leaves a true happy ending for Ayumi and Shinichi and Ran. After all it was introduced early in the series, but the more he developed it the harder it gets to get rid of it. Especially now since Ayumi has become more subtle when approaching Conan. She was pretty open in the beginning, but now she is keeping much more to herself. Problem is that it has been shown that she still has those feelings and they seem stronger than ever before.

*sigh* Poor Ayumi-chan. Get a clue Conan: Your 16 annual movie is approaching and you are not getting your older body back. You would be 33 already now. And Ayumi 23.  

3. He wouldn't be forced to give up on her, in fact, he could hang onto the memories and not really move past that event in his life by choice. If he wanted to he could even end it all to be with her (although I doubt it since he's... you know... the whole justice type. But then that's what I mean when I say he goes crazy.)

When Ran is dead he couldn't be together with her anymore.
Again, I don't like the feeling that Ayumi wouldn't have gotten to be with Conan if Ran didn't die. Because that makes it seem like his love for her is inferior and she is only second choice. But I want him to deliberately chose Ayumi OVER Ran.

I would like to see him having issues between deciding to stay with Ran OR Ayumi, really.

Well, he said he was going to miss the DBs when he thought that Alcohol could make him grow up again.
But yes, this is what I mean. I want him to feel like he has a choice, not like Ran is his only destiny and he has to get the antidote as quickly as possible...

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But it is impossible to travel to the future. Which results we would have to result to cloning - which IS possible nowadays. Though not in the way you probably mean.
Cloning is not able to create an exact replica. We won't suddenly have 2 Conans (or 1 Conan and 1 Shinichi). We would have Conan/Shinichi and a clone of Conan/Shinichi.

Now we can assume a crazy conspiracy: Shinichi is a genetically engineered human. This would explain his superior intelligence, perceptiveness and fitness. Of course he isn't the only one - he is just one of many clones. That would explain Kaito, who looks so similar to him and also has superior traits. Out there there must be even more clones, likely the same age as Shinichi or maybe even Ayumis age (if the program continued for 10 years).
But even then: There is only one Conan/Shinichi. Either Ran or Ayumi would have to end up without him and instead with someone who looks like him and likely behaves similar to him - but would not have their shared memories. They sure might make a good couple despite those missing links to their past, but... it is still not the same.  


Unfortunately him helping and protecting Ayumi so far is due to his tendency to protect everyone...
While it surely enforces Ayumis feelings for him, it does not prevent her from having to give him up once he gets out of her reach (because "Conan left forever" or because she knows that he returned to being Shinichi).
But it also means that him protecting her is nothing special, nothing that would develop the pairing any more than at what it currently is. And to be honest, Ayumis crush is less and less mentioned in the series. Maybe because Gosho has no idea what to do with this pairing, maybe because he realized that he has no easy way out of this situation that leaves a true happy ending for Ayumi and Shinichi and Ran. After all it was introduced early in the series, but the more he developed it the harder it gets to get rid of it. Especially now since Ayumi has become more subtle when approaching Conan. She was pretty open in the beginning, but now she is keeping much more to herself. Problem is that it has been shown that she still has those feelings and they seem stronger than ever before.

*sigh* Poor Ayumi-chan. Get a clue Conan: Your 16 annual movie is approaching and you are not getting your older body back. You would be 33 already now. And Ayumi 23.  


When Ran is dead he couldn't be together with her anymore.
Again, I don't like the feeling that Ayumi wouldn't have gotten to be with Conan if Ran didn't die. Because that makes it seem like his love for her is inferior and she is only second choice. But I want him to deliberately chose Ayumi OVER Ran.


Well, he said he was going to miss the DBs when he thought that Alcohol could make him grow up again.
But yes, this is what I mean. I want him to feel like he has a choice, not like Ran is his only destiny and he has to get the antidote as quickly as possible...

1.No, we can travel to the future, we just wouldn't know how to get back. We don't know how to go backwards! XD and it IS fiction, remember. Gosho can make ANYTHING happen.

I think the idea is pretty possible, considering the fact that the story isn't real, there are many ways Gosho can explain the separation and many ways for him to play it out, it seems plausible to me.

2. Not protecting her...
He doesn't need to hold her hand to protect her or grab her shoulders and the like. Gosho could have done that differently if he didn't mean for it to be an AyuCon moment. Gosho loves happy endings. If he wanted a happy ending then Ayumi wouldn't be left heartbroken. While it is less and less mentioned, it's still brought up and brought back and noticed. (Unlike Ai's supposed feelings for Conan earlier on in the series ). LOL XD

I don't think Gosho would do that to her. He's set her up as an important character (sh'es a very important part of Haibara's progress) and that means that he probably takes her feelings a little more seriously. I agree. I think he's confused about what way to go with AyuCon. xD But at least we know he hasn't given up on it!

3. Yes, but that doesn't mean he would be forced to give up on her. There are tons of people who have lost the person they loved and not moved on.
Ayumi pulling Conan out of that slump and him slowly realizing he loves her although he refuses to admit it because he keeps thinking" No! I love Ran! I CAN'T love her!" seems like a pretty genuine way to fall for someone to me.

5. How long ago was that, though? xD
Ran's death could still possibly create that scenario. (And I wouldn't mind it, either. I like her... sometimes... but most of the time she annoys me. ^^'... that and her HAIR!!!! D:<)

[Schillok]

1.No, we can travel to the future, we just wouldn't know how to get back. We don't know how to go backwards! XD and it IS fiction, remember. Gosho can make ANYTHING happen.

I think the idea is pretty possible, considering the fact that the story isn't real, there are many ways Gosho can explain the separation and many ways for him to play it out, it seems plausible to me.

Traveling to the future? How? (Except by traveling near the speed of light when time dilation would make time pass slower (?) on the fast-moving spacecraft than on earth. But even then it is not time-traveling since for the spaceships crew time seems to have passed normally.)

Well, being a fictional story of course it is possible to include anything, even splitting Conan into two so Ayumi gets to keep one copy while Ran can have the other one. But that would feel forced in my opinion.

2. Not protecting her...
He doesn't need to hold her hand to protect her or grab her shoulders and the like. Gosho could have done that differently if he didn't mean for it to be an AyuCon moment. Gosho loves happy endings. If he wanted a happy ending then Ayumi wouldn't be left heartbroken. While it is less and less mentioned, it's still brought up and brought back and noticed. (Unlike Ai's supposed feelings for Conan earlier on in the series ). LOL XD

I don't think Gosho would do that to her. He's set her up as an important character (sh'es a very important part of Haibara's progress) and that means that he probably takes her feelings a little more seriously. I agree. I think he's confused about what way to go with AyuCon. xD But at least we know he hasn't given up on it!

I still think he does that to show Conans heroic/protective nature. Conan doesn't seem to have any romantic feelings for Ayumi (yet), so protecting her has nothing to do with love. In his mind he is just keeping his friend (or a cute little kid) from being afraid from whatever mess they had just manged to stumble up into.

Of course Ayumi has her own role in the series. But recently Gosho had focused much more on her relationship with Haibara instead of that with Conan...

3. Yes, but that doesn't mean he would be forced to give up on her. There are tons of people who have lost the person they loved and not moved on.
Ayumi pulling Conan out of that slump and him slowly realizing he loves her although he refuses to admit it because he keeps thinking" No! I love Ran! I CAN'T love her!" seems like a pretty genuine way to fall for someone to me.

And it would be even better if Ran were still alive. The temptation to meddle with Rans love life out of selfishness, just for the chance to be with her. The frustration that time waits for no one and that after disappearing for several years not everything will be okay once he gets an antidote.
Those feelings when he realizes that the little girl that was by his side for so long looking up to him is no little girl anymore...

5. How long ago was that, though? xD
Ran's death could still possibly create that scenario. (And I wouldn't mind it, either. I like her... sometimes... but most of the time she annoys me. ^^'... that and her HAIR!!!! D:<)

At a time when Conan's head was still the size of 1/3 of his body. Instead the 1/4 it is now. Meaning before every child got a little growth spurt and started looking a bit older.
Ran... is Conans motivation to grow up again. It is which makes him different from Haibara who has nothing (no one) to return to if she got the chance to get an antidote. Ran is that "ideal love interest" that Conan/Shinichi seems to have in his mind. If she died she would remain in that spot forever in his mind. Ayumi would always be compared to her and I don't want Conan to think "What would Ran do in this situation" whenever he does something together with Ayumi.
No. I want Conan to realize that there are better girls for him than Ran. And this is when he will start paying more attention to Ayumi.

[IHKF]

1.No, we can travel to the future, we just wouldn't know how to get back. We don't know how to go backwards! XD and it IS fiction, remember. Gosho can make ANYTHING happen.

I think the idea is pretty possible, considering the fact that the story isn't real, there are many ways Gosho can explain the separation and many ways for him to play it out, it seems plausible to me.

Traveling to the future? How? (Except by traveling near the speed of light when time dilation would make time pass slower (?) on the fast-moving spacecraft than on earth. But even then it is not time-traveling since for the spaceships crew time seems to have passed normally.)

Well, being a fictional story of course it is possible to include anything, even splitting Conan into two so Ayumi gets to keep one copy while Ran can have the other one. But that would feel forced in my opinion.

2. Not protecting her...
He doesn't need to hold her hand to protect her or grab her shoulders and the like. Gosho could have done that differently if he didn't mean for it to be an AyuCon moment. Gosho loves happy endings. If he wanted a happy ending then Ayumi wouldn't be left heartbroken. While it is less and less mentioned, it's still brought up and brought back and noticed. (Unlike Ai's supposed feelings for Conan earlier on in the series ). LOL XD

I don't think Gosho would do that to her. He's set her up as an important character (sh'es a very important part of Haibara's progress) and that means that he probably takes her feelings a little more seriously. I agree. I think he's confused about what way to go with AyuCon. xD But at least we know he hasn't given up on it!

I still think he does that to show Conans heroic/protective nature. Conan doesn't seem to have any romantic feelings for Ayumi (yet), so protecting her has nothing to do with love. In his mind he is just keeping his friend (or a cute little kid) from being afraid from whatever mess they had just manged to stumble up into.

Of course Ayumi has her own role in the series. But recently Gosho had focused much more on her relationship with Haibara instead of that with Conan...

3. Yes, but that doesn't mean he would be forced to give up on her. There are tons of people who have lost the person they loved and not moved on.
Ayumi pulling Conan out of that slump and him slowly realizing he loves her although he refuses to admit it because he keeps thinking" No! I love Ran! I CAN'T love her!" seems like a pretty genuine way to fall for someone to me.

And it would be even better if Ran were still alive. The temptation to meddle with Rans love life out of selfishness, just for the chance to be with her. The frustration that time waits for no one and that after disappearing for several years not everything will be okay once he gets an antidote.
Those feelings when he realizes that the little girl that was by his side for so long looking up to him is no little girl anymore...

5. How long ago was that, though? xD
Ran's death could still possibly create that scenario. (And I wouldn't mind it, either. I like her... sometimes... but most of the time she annoys me. ^^'... that and her HAIR!!!! D:<)

At a time when Conan's head was still the size of 1/3 of his body. Instead the 1/4 it is now. Meaning before every child got a little growth spurt and started looking a bit older.
Ran... is Conans motivation to grow up again. It is which makes him different from Haibara who has nothing (no one) to return to if she got the chance to get an antidote. Ran is that "ideal love interest" that Conan/Shinichi seems to have in his mind. If she died she would remain in that spot forever in his mind. Ayumi would always be compared to her and I don't want Conan to think "What would Ran do in this situation" whenever he does something together with Ayumi.
No. I want Conan to realize that there are better girls for him than Ran. And this is when he will start paying more attention to Ayumi.

1. I was informed that we already knew how to go to the future we just are unaware of how to reach the past.

It depends on exactly HOW he splits them, for me. If he splits them in a believable way (and possibly Ran and Shinichi end up breaking up ) then I don't think it will feel quite as forced.

2. But there are other ways you can show him being protective. We don't see him grabbing other characters by their shoulders and smiling at them or telling them that they've figured it out. He'll typically just say "I GOT IT!" and run off. xD

Yes but that still makes Ayumi an important character, which means she's less likely to get a half-@$$ed ending.

3. I don't think it would be better if she were alive, personally. (Maybe because I feel like Ran as a whole is forced down our throats...) I think it would be nice to see Conan in a pitiful state for once. One where we actually see a weaker side of him. It'll take away from his pure awesomeness exterior and maybe add a little to the cute interior!
I just... don't really like him just noticing that Ayumi's not a kid anymore. It's just too common of a story and makes it feel like they'd just be repeating the childhood friend process all over again. It would feel like their relationship is no different than Shinichi's and Ran's and if that were to happen I'd FREAK! DX

4. (Just realized I skipped 4 up there... whoopsie. xD) no, I don't think Ran is Conan's motivation to grow up again. I think he mainly wants his detective status and old life back and Ran is more so just a really nice perk to getting his old body back. What makes him different than Haibara is his family and reputation and place in society. Haibara wasn't a nobody, but she was kind of a... secret somebody. xD (She wasn't famous like he was but she was still pretty important in the BO.)

If Ran died it doesn't necessarily mean that she would just stay in that one place for all of his life. Plenty of couples lose their other half and find love again. She'd stay in his heart, yes, but not necessarily that spot.

Ayumi wouldn't always be compared to her, because while Ayumi is like ran, she has major differences that make her a more appealing character to me than Ran does. Ayumi doesn't let herself get down when Conan runs off, and she helps him solve cases and she's interested in more things that he likes than Ran is and I think that may really set her apart from Ran in his eyes.

Yes I want him to realize there are better girls for him than Ran, but I want him to realize that BECAUSE he starts getting feelings for Ayumi.