Cases that don't (or shouldn't) actually work that way....

[miakakiri]

This case has bugged me ever since it came out in the manga, because some of the detail just don't actually work that way in real life. I've been wondering if maybe there are other cases like that, so I figured I'd ask if anyone else has spotted one. Please list what case, which details don't work (or shouldn't work) and why. Also please note if the case is manga based, anime only, or not animated yet (anything not animated yet does need to be put in a spoiler tag, please) as this will help others locate the case in order to possibly debate details.
Please be nice; I want to encourage friendly debate, not start a flame-war.

My "That doesn't work!" case: (all information here is taken from DCTP translations)
Eri's Testimony case (manga based: files 610 to 612, episodes 505&506 (right after the Clash)).
What doesn't work: Eri's description of her visit with the stylist: (file 611, page 8, second panel)"I came at 8 o'clock, and had a shampoo for 10 min. Next a coloring for 20 min. Afterward a shampoo again for 10 min. Then I had a perm for 10 min. Then once again a shampoo for 10 min. And then I had my hair cut for 15 min. Finally I had my last shampoo for 10 min, and got my hair blow-dried and cut which took another 10 min. Which makes it almost an hour and a half, right?"
Why it doesn't work: Now, it could be argued that some of that is translation, but it shows up in the anime version exactly the same. I work in a salon/spa (though I'm a massage therapist and not a stylist) so I see stylists at work all the time: coloring, cutting, blow-drying, flat-ironing, curling, perming, and whatever else. There are a number of things wrong with the timeline Eri gives. An hour and a half is a reasonable length of time for a color, but the description doesn't match. Also, you can't do a color and a perm on the same day (too many chemicals all at once will damage the hair, I think--I'm not entirely sure, but I have heard my coworkers explaining to clients that you need to space out perms and colors by about 2 weeks). Color is usually applied to dry hair, so she would not have been shampooed when she first came in. Color usually takes about 20-30 min to process (the "drying" Eri refers to later) during which time the stylist can leave to take care of whatever else needs doing (several of my coworkers regularly use the processing time to grab lunch, or they'll fit in another client). She also lists having her hair cut twice, and way too many shampoos that take far too long. It honestly looked like Aoyama-sensei's "research" was to wander into a salon and get his hair cut, watch the other stylists doing things, and make stuff up based on what he saw stylists doing, without even asking any questions.

[miakakiri]

all kaito kid cases.

1) no one can disguise like that
2) how does he know the police plans? he should know them in order to invent a trick

1) True, but it's part of the suspension of disbelief. No one can turn a teenager into a little kid, either.
2) Nakamori Aoko. Or a listening device. It's not like he has no connection to the police at all. His best friend/girlfriend's dad is the one in charge of catching KID. Read Magic Kaitou (it's available at the manga.dctp.ws site) for further clarification.

[kirite]

My "That doesn't work!" case: (all information here is taken from DCTP translations)
Eri's Testimony case (manga based: files 610 to 612, episodes 505&506 (right after the Clash)).
What doesn't work: Eri's description of her visit with the stylist: (file 611, page 8, second panel)"I came at 8 o'clock, and had a shampoo for 10 min. Next a coloring for 20 min. Afterward a shampoo again for 10 min. Then I had a perm for 10 min. Then once again a shampoo for 10 min. And then I had my hair cut for 15 min. Finally I had my last shampoo for 10 min, and got my hair blow-dried and cut which took another 10 min. Which makes it almost an hour and a half, right?"
Why it doesn't work: Now, it could be argued that some of that is translation, but it shows up in the anime version exactly the same. I work in a salon/spa (though I'm a massage therapist and not a stylist) so I see stylists at work all the time: coloring, cutting, blow-drying, flat-ironing, curling, perming, and whatever else. There are a number of things wrong with the timeline Eri gives. An hour and a half is a reasonable length of time for a color, but the description doesn't match. Also, you can't do a color and a perm on the same day (too many chemicals all at once will damage the hair, I think--I'm not entirely sure, but I have heard my coworkers explaining to clients that you need to space out perms and colors by about 2 weeks). Color is usually applied to dry hair, so she would not have been shampooed when she first came in. Color usually takes about 20-30 min to process (the "drying" Eri refers to later) during which time the stylist can leave to take care of whatever else needs doing (several of my coworkers regularly use the processing time to grab lunch, or they'll fit in another client). She also lists having her hair cut twice, and way too many shampoos that take far too long. It honestly looked like Aoyama-sensei's "research" was to wander into a salon and get his hair cut, watch the other stylists doing things, and make stuff up based on what he saw stylists doing, without even asking any questions.

This is really interesting actually.  Thanks for the read <3

[ccppfan]

This case has bugged me ever since it came out in the manga, because some of the detail just don't actually work that way in real life. I've been wondering if maybe there are other cases like that, so I figured I'd ask if anyone else has spotted one. Please list what case, which details don't work (or shouldn't work) and why. Also please note if the case is manga based, anime only, or not animated yet (anything not animated yet does need to be put in a spoiler tag, please) as this will help others locate the case in order to possibly debate details.
Please be nice; I want to encourage friendly debate, not start a flame-war.

My "That doesn't work!" case: (all information here is taken from DCTP translations)
Eri's Testimony case (manga based: files 610 to 612, episodes 505&506 (right after the Clash)).
What doesn't work: Eri's description of her visit with the stylist: (file 611, page 8, second panel)"I came at 8 o'clock, and had a shampoo for 10 min. Next a coloring for 20 min. Afterward a shampoo again for 10 min. Then I had a perm for 10 min. Then once again a shampoo for 10 min. And then I had my hair cut for 15 min. Finally I had my last shampoo for 10 min, and got my hair blow-dried and cut which took another 10 min. Which makes it almost an hour and a half, right?"
Why it doesn't work: Now, it could be argued that some of that is translation, but it shows up in the anime version exactly the same. I work in a salon/spa (though I'm a massage therapist and not a stylist) so I see stylists at work all the time: coloring, cutting, blow-drying, flat-ironing, curling, perming, and whatever else. There are a number of things wrong with the timeline Eri gives. An hour and a half is a reasonable length of time for a color, but the description doesn't match. Also, you can't do a color and a perm on the same day (too many chemicals all at once will damage the hair, I think--I'm not entirely sure, but I have heard my coworkers explaining to clients that you need to space out perms and colors by about 2 weeks). Color is usually applied to dry hair, so she would not have been shampooed when she first came in. Color usually takes about 20-30 min to process (the "drying" Eri refers to later) during which time the stylist can leave to take care of whatever else needs doing (several of my coworkers regularly use the processing time to grab lunch, or they'll fit in another client). She also lists having her hair cut twice, and way too many shampoos that take far too long. It honestly looked like Aoyama-sensei's "research" was to wander into a salon and get his hair cut, watch the other stylists doing things, and make stuff up based on what he saw stylists doing, without even asking any questions.

Now that you mention it... you're right!

Oh well. >_>

[Huty]

I remember you complaining about that on DCTV. Makes sense though, you should send a complaints letter to Gosho, telling him to do proper research.

A few scientific explanations Conan gave throughout the series were a little inaccurate too, but none comes to mind right now. If I remember I shall post again. xD

[...] No one can turn a teenager into a little kid, either.

But they act that part often enough.

[Kor]

all kaito kid cases.

1) no one can disguise like that
2) how does he know the police plans? he should know them in order to invent a trick

Actually, you can make perfect masks of people if you have the time, AND there are people who can impersonate other people's voices EASILY (Dan Green, the creator of Yu Gi Oh Abridged, can impersonate all the male voices perfectly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw5FXSZ6 ... r_embedded

[Huty]

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I'm not disagreeing with what you said, but there are other things that just don't work.

• Changing clothes as fast as he does.
• That leads to something else... how does he carry all of his stuff around?
• Many of his tricks can't work like they do either.
• Oh, and don't forget about his glider.

[Kor]

blahblahblah

I'm not disagreeing with what you said, but there are other things that just don't work.

• Changing clothes as fast as he does.
• That leads to something else... how does he carry all of his stuff around?
• Many of his tricks can't work like they do either.
• Oh, and don't forget about his glider.

Because I OBVIOUSLY said back there that all of what he is doing actually work? Someone said that you he can't disguise so well in reality and I said that he CAN. Of course that you can't change clothes so fast. About his tricks, how can you tell? Did you try them? A magician makes a lot of crazy tricks. And I think that you treat most of his cases with tricks but in fact, there are only 2 cases that he uses (what you call) impossible tricks. The midair walk and the teleportation. In all the rest he is just using a disguise and as we know that is NOT an impossible trick.

on another note. you, qouting what I said as "blahblah" seems really disrespectful to me. Is that how you want people to think of what YOU are saying?

[bluekaitou1412]

[kirite]

blahblahblah

I'm not disagreeing with what you said, but there are other things that just don't work.

• Changing clothes as fast as he does.
• That leads to something else... how does he carry all of his stuff around?
• Many of his tricks can't work like they do either.
• Oh, and don't forget about his glider.

Changing clothes so fast:  I'm sure it's possible.  Stage actors have to change their clothes/do make up really quickly as well.  As long as you're prepared it's possible.

Carry stuff around:  Hahah it's like the question of how certain people carry guns around when they're just wearing shorts and a loose shirt  .  I think KID's case actually makes sense though, his suit is pretty bulky and if you're a magician you have to know how to compact and hide your stuff.

Tricks:  I think they make sense to me. 

Glider: LOL I'm not too sure how that works either.  I'll think about that now xD.

[kkslider5552000]

Dan Green, the creator of Yu Gi Oh Abridged

hahahahahahahahaha oh god this is epic

[Obscure]

i dont know if this counts , but this was a comment on youtube of the case Mushrooms, Bears, Detective Boys.
"Juveniles: Yearlings are susceptible to high mortality rates as a result of starvation, predation by other bears, and vehicle collisions. About a quarter will die before they turn two years old.

The 2 oldest known bears ( this is in Florida)were 20 years old (killed in 1985) and 19 years old (captured in 2004) Both bears were sows. (The oldest known male, from the Ocala population was killed by a vehicle at 16 y/o "

so that old man said 20 years ago juvei , the bear , saved him . and she was an adult then, so that sums up that she is older than 20, which is kind-off impossilbe because the oldest juvenile bear was 20 year old .

unless juvei wasnt discoverd.

[miakakiri]

i dont know if this counts , but this was a comment on youtube of the case Mushrooms, Bears, Detective Boys.
"Juveniles: Yearlings are susceptible to high mortality rates as a result of starvation, predation by other bears, and vehicle collisions. About a quarter will die before they turn two years old.

The 2 oldest known bears ( this is in Florida)were 20 years old (killed in 1985) and 19 years old (captured in 2004) Both bears were sows. (The oldest known male, from the Ocala population was killed by a vehicle at 16 y/o "

so that old man said 20 years ago juvei , the bear , saved him . and she was an adult then, so that sums up that she is older than 20, which is kind-off impossilbe because the oldest juvenile bear was 20 year old .

unless juvei wasnt discoverd.

Possibly a different species of bear? Or maybe Aoyama-sensei fudged the numbers a bit with the story of Jubei (named after a famous Japanese swordsman with only one eye).

[cashman_11]

Kaito Kid's Miracle Walk case has always bothered me, I don't think if you were suspended from a helicopter, that you would be steady enough to appear to be walking without swaying at all.

[bluekaitou1412]

Kaito Kid's Miracle Walk case has always bothered me, I don't think if you were suspended from a helicopter, that you would be steady enough to appear to be walking without swaying at all.

Just look at his feet. It's like he's stepping on some kind of platform-- every step he takes is-- you know.
That feat is almost impossible because it's tiring and the gravity is-- too lazy to explain.
He's suspended in midair so that must not be the case.

Oh well, it is KID all right. I can forgive him. I think almost all of us do.