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Re: Shinichi Is going to fail 11th grade!!!!!

Postby ssjup81 » August 9th, 2009, 1:32 am

kkslider5552000 wrote:
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ssjup81 wrote:I think what most are forgetting is that all the students have to worry about are passing their end of year exams.  Seems that in Japan students don't really "fail" per se.  As long as Shinichi gets back in time to take his end of year tests and get good marks, he'll be fine.

he could also take the antidote and waste it on a day of finals.

I'm pretty sure Haibara said that at this point, he would have to take 100 for it to work for 24 hours.
Well, seems he'll be popping pills during his exams. lol
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Re: Shinichi Is going to fail 11th grade!!!!!

Postby Eve » August 9th, 2009, 2:31 am

ssjup81 wrote:
kkslider5552000 wrote:
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ssjup81 wrote:I think what most are forgetting is that all the students have to worry about are passing their end of year exams.  Seems that in Japan students don't really "fail" per se.  As long as Shinichi gets back in time to take his end of year tests and get good marks, he'll be fine.

he could also take the antidote and waste it on a day of finals.

I'm pretty sure Haibara said that at this point, he would have to take 100 for it to work for 24 hours.
Well, seems he'll be popping pills during his exams. lol


LOL... that means a lot.... in vairous ways XDDD....

In other words, unless the BO business is done in time, Shinichi will be seen popping pills to take the finals XDD.... BO really screwed up his life ... one way, and all the others XDDD
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Re: Shinichi Is going to fail 11th grade!!!!!

Postby Akonyl » August 9th, 2009, 3:39 am

kkslider5552000 wrote:
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ssjup81 wrote:I think what most are forgetting is that all the students have to worry about are passing their end of year exams.  Seems that in Japan students don't really "fail" per se.  As long as Shinichi gets back in time to take his end of year tests and get good marks, he'll be fine.

he could also take the antidote and waste it on a day of finals.

I'm pretty sure Haibara said that at this point, he would have to take 100 for it to work for 24 hours.

rly? I know that in that one episode when he took 2 in a row the effectiveness went from 24 hours to 4 hours, but I thought that was just a temporary tolerance, not a permanent one. The only thing I remember otherwise that talks about the tolerance would be OVA 9, but that isn't exactly right, being that it's a dream.
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Postby sstimson » August 9th, 2009, 4:59 am

Some time I wonder where you get such fancy ideas from. I will explain two very easy ways to not fail 11 grade.

The first is simple at the right time a letter arriving saying he is now schooling in America ( I know there it is even possible to be home schooled)

The second is to have either Heiji or Kid take his place. It is possible that the two schools might have different test days and thus he can go to both. Remember both Him and Kid have pretended to be Kudo. I am sure if they could they will help him. The missing Dog in the Safe case proves how easy it is to get help from Kid
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Postby baka1412 » August 9th, 2009, 5:06 am

It would be against his Ego to ask for KID help  ;D
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Re: Shinichi Is going to fail 11th grade!!!!!

Postby AICHAN » August 9th, 2009, 9:21 am

baka1412 wrote:It would be against his Ego to ask for KID help  ;D


looool you're right ;D it would also kill him to ask for heiji's help!!
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Postby kirite » August 9th, 2009, 11:53 am

sstimson wrote:Some time I wonder where you get such fancy ideas from. I will explain two very easy ways to not fail 11 grade.

The first is simple at the right time a letter arriving saying he is now schooling in America ( I know there it is even possible to be home schooled)

The second is to have either Heiji or Kid take his place. It is possible that the two schools might have different test days and thus he can go to both. Remember both Him and Kid have pretended to be Kudo. I am sure if they could they will help him. The missing Dog in the Safe case proves how easy it is to get help from Kid


KID was only Kudo in the movies.  In manga canon-verse KID only met Kudo Shinichi once in Magic Kaitou and even then it wasn't face to face.  Unless Shinichi wants to tell yet another person his secret (and just to pass his grade LOL) then I'm not sure how that's going to work xD

LOL Osaka-ben Kudo Shinichi ftw xD, don't forget how his makeup rubs off xDDD
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Postby soratothamax » August 9th, 2009, 5:58 pm

Shinichi is such a know-it-all, he can miss school and still pass. He's smarter than most people with a college degree! It's sad really. I don't think Shiho got a degree.....she was working for a criminal organization, it's possible they just got who was best at it. I think she learned from her parents and took over the family business.  ;) But I think Shiho has always been good at biochemistry. Science is her thing, like detective work is Shinichi's. And Kaitou Kid's is being a thief. Agasa is being an inventor. Etc. I don't think she graduated yet. If she had schooling in America, it is possible that she was just finishing up Senior year......then again she was living in Japan later, right? Wait...when did she move to Japan? When is her birthday?

She said her school in America wasn't pleasant like the school in Japan. I think it was some private school or some "Black Organization" tutoring school.

Shinichi has a back-up plan, I already know. He can pretty much get out of anything just because he's...Shinichi. ::)
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Re: Shinichi Is going to fail 11th grade!!!!!

Postby James Rye » August 9th, 2009, 6:16 pm

soratothamax wrote:Shinichi is such a know-it-all, he can miss school and still pass. He's smarter than most people with a college degree! It's sad really. I don't think Shiho got a degree.....she was working for a criminal organization, it's possible they just got who was best at it. I think she learned from her parents and took over the family business.  ;) But I think Shiho has always been good at biochemistry. Science is her thing, like detective work is Shinichi's. And Kaitou Kid's is being a thief. Agasa is being an inventor. Etc. I don't think she graduated yet. If she had schooling in America, it is possible that she was just finishing up Senior year......then again she was living in Japan later, right? Wait...when did she move to Japan? When is her birthday?

She said her school in America wasn't pleasant like the school in Japan. I think it was some private school or some "Black Organization" tutoring school.

Shinichi has a back-up plan, I already know. He can pretty much get out of anything just because he's...Shinichi. ::)


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Postby kirite » August 9th, 2009, 7:08 pm

soratothamax wrote:Shinichi is such a know-it-all, he can miss school and still pass. He's smarter than most people with a college degree! It's sad really. I don't think Shiho got a degree.....she was working for a criminal organization, it's possible they just got who was best at it. I think she learned from her parents and took over the family business.  ;) But I think Shiho has always been good at biochemistry. Science is her thing, like detective work is Shinichi's. And Kaitou Kid's is being a thief. Agasa is being an inventor. Etc. I don't think she graduated yet. If she had schooling in America, it is possible that she was just finishing up Senior year......then again she was living in Japan later, right? Wait...when did she move to Japan? When is her birthday?

She said her school in America wasn't pleasant like the school in Japan. I think it was some private school or some "Black Organization" tutoring school.

Shinichi has a back-up plan, I already know. He can pretty much get out of anything just because he's...Shinichi. ::)


Lol Shinichi probably studies from sleeping on books!  Like the information seeps directly into his brain xD.

As to Shiho she should have the school equivalent of a PHD to do what she's doing xD.  But then this is Gosho universe so...iunno.  From the impression I get is that Shiho finished in a public university and went to work for the B.O. afterwards.  As rich as the B.O. I can't see them having an educational sector xD, it's more reliable to use your money to send your scientist to the best schools in the world in the field or recruit from the outside.

Lol I wouldn't add Hakase to the list of genius' xDD.  I wouldn't list Kaito in there for his magic either, but for his natural confidence and charisma <3.

As to having an unpleasant time in American School Shiho was refering to the fact that people made fun of her Japanese looks (her eyes her hair etc...).  It's like how some mangas will have "Americans" saying how Japanese people are ugly, it's just stereotype really ==;...it's like how all "Americans" in anime have blond hair.
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Re: Shinichi Is going to fail 11th grade!!!!!

Postby Eve » August 9th, 2009, 8:14 pm

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Lol Shinichi probably studies from sleeping on books!  Like the information seeps directly into his brain xD.

As to Shiho she should have the school equivalent of a PHD to do what she's doing xD.  But then this is Gosho universe so...iunno.  From the impression I get is that Shiho finished in a public university and went to work for the B.O. afterwards.  As rich as the B.O. I can't see them having an educational sector xD, it's more reliable to use your money to send your scientist to the best schools in the world in the field or recruit from the outside.

Lol I wouldn't add Hakase to the list of genius' xDD.  I wouldn't list Kaito in there for his magic either, but for his natural confidence and charisma <3.

As to having an unpleasant time in American School Shiho was refering to the fact that people made fun of her Japanese looks (her eyes her hair etc...).  It's like how some mangas will have "Americans" saying how Japanese people are ugly, it's just stereotype really ==;...it's like how all "Americans" in anime have blond hair.


Yeah... I's like he's automatically has all these information seeped into his brain... makes me jealous...

I have the same impression with Shiho also... I always thought she'd probably finish with at least some high degree from biochemist studies, then goes to work for the BO... It's more likely that way...

Yeah... Such stereotype really... but that also suggest that she was probably in a rich private school though... (an impression, since the environment she's referring sounds like it) Though I'd have to say, American does not necessary have blond hair... but anime does that a lot ne~...
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Postby kirite » August 9th, 2009, 9:12 pm

Khinkhun wrote:Yeah... Such stereotype really... but that also suggest that she was probably in a rich private school though... (an impression, since the environment she's referring sounds like it) Though I'd have to say, American does not necessary have blond hair... but anime does that a lot ne~...


Hmm it is possible she went to an exclusive private school since the org would want her to have the best schooling possible.  But what I was referring to is how in some Japanese mangas "Americans" are characterised to dislike Japanese people (like average American citizen).  It's not just Japanese manga either.

For example if...for say this was a manga about fashion.  Then the "American" blond hair model will be characterised to say something like "Ew who invited a Japanese here?".  Of course this racism does occure in real life, but it tends to be...overdone in Japanese mangas.  Gosho is actualy pretty good when it comes to these things in comparison...but then he does make all his "foreigners" really...weird xD.  Maybe he's just using that line to stress that Haibara is a Japanese girl and not a foreigner (I don't know).
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Re: Shinichi Is going to fail 11th grade!!!!!

Postby TheBlind » August 9th, 2009, 10:14 pm

kirite wrote:
Khinkhun wrote:Yeah... Such stereotype really... but that also suggest that she was probably in a rich private school though... (an impression, since the environment she's referring sounds like it) Though I'd have to say, American does not necessary have blond hair... but anime does that a lot ne~...


Hmm it is possible she went to an exclusive private school since the org would want her to have the best schooling possible.  But what I was referring to is how in some Japanese mangas "Americans" are characterised to dislike Japanese people (like average American citizen).  It's not just Japanese manga either.

For example if...for say this was a manga about fashion.  Then the "American" blond hair model will be characterised to say something like "Ew who invited a Japanese here?".  Of course this racism does occure in real life, but it tends to be...overdone in Japanese mangas.  Gosho is actualy pretty good when it comes to these things in comparison...but then he does make all his "foreigners" really...weird xD.  Maybe he's just using that line to stress that Haibara is a Japanese girl and not a foreigner (I don't know).


Stereotyping Americans has always been a bit of a "problem" in Japanese media. Either we are all blond haired individuals that love drinking and parading around with as little clothing as possible or are very rude people with some tones of racism. I don't recall reading the line in the manga(maybe it was translated differently) but when I saw Haibara's story in Ginko-Colored First love it was "c'mon...seriously?". I actually felt it coming since the episode seemed to gingerly walk around the issue that foreigners or "halfs" are hazed harshly in Japan(In recent times it has actually gotten better) and it looked like it was just looking for the right spot to dump in "But they do it too!". 

And just in case others are wondering(know this place gets traffic from all over) racism,where it exist, isn't as complicated as Japanese media makes it seem to be in America. ;D. It's actually really simple since mostly "simple" people use it here.
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Re: Shinichi Is going to fail 11th grade!!!!!

Postby Akonyl » August 9th, 2009, 11:06 pm

kirite wrote:
Khinkhun wrote:Yeah... Such stereotype really... but that also suggest that she was probably in a rich private school though... (an impression, since the environment she's referring sounds like it) Though I'd have to say, American does not necessary have blond hair... but anime does that a lot ne~...


Hmm it is possible she went to an exclusive private school since the org would want her to have the best schooling possible.  But what I was referring to is how in some Japanese mangas "Americans" are characterised to dislike Japanese people (like average American citizen).  It's not just Japanese manga either.

For example if...for say this was a manga about fashion.  Then the "American" blond hair model will be characterised to say something like "Ew who invited a Japanese here?".  Of course this racism does occure in real life, but it tends to be...overdone in Japanese mangas.  Gosho is actualy pretty good when it comes to these things in comparison...but then he does make all his "foreigners" really...weird xD.  Maybe he's just using that line to stress that Haibara is a Japanese girl and not a foreigner (I don't know).

well, aside from what theblind said about latent anti-american sentiments in japanese media (hmm, I wonder where they could have gotten that from? ), foreigners are always treated badly in most forms of media because for the most part, the only reason foreigners are ever included in media is because you need one for some reason or another.

Like, let's say you need someone who isn't familiar with things? A foreigner can do that for you. Need someone with a weird personality trait that'll weird everyone out, possibly for comedic effect? Get a foreigner. Need someone to be an asshat to the main character and crew for no reason at all? Nab a foreigner, and make him racist. :P

I mean, yeah you get foreigners in things even when they have no purpose, but much more often than not, they're put there for a reason. Creators of fiction everywhere love to stick to their own nationality, not just Japan, though I suppose it could be a little stronger over there.
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Postby bluekaitou1412 » August 9th, 2009, 11:10 pm

Just watch Samurai Champloo and look how they made Americans stup*d on one episode, I think that's the baseball one. You think it's because they're rival countries?
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