Unpopular Opinions about the Detective Conan

Post any Detective Conan news, events, questions, and the like about the anime, manga, movies, or OVAs that don't belong elsewhere here.
Post Reply
User avatar
bluekaitou1412
Community Phantom
Indie artist. Likes books and all things Haibara.

Posts:
5389

Re: Unpopular Opinions about the Detective Conan

Post by bluekaitou1412 »

Osaka Detective wrote:
bluekaitou1412 wrote:Kaitou KID is always a treat whenever he appears in DC because I see his chapters as a welcome break from the cases (very trite, recently) especially when there's absolutely no sign of plot-related ones. My fondness for him stemmed from Magic Kaito, though.

Before, KID was the most likely recurring character to kick Conan's arrogant ass (HEIJI WHY CAN'T YOU JUST DO IT?!) so yeah.
Didn't Conan always managed to beat him one way or another? I'm pretty sure Conan is as perfect as a character can get (and pretty arrogant too).
Hmmm... I'd say it's always a stalemate. And I did say "most likely", not "least likely". XD

I agree on the red/auburn hair for Haibara.

*goes off to read the rest of the posts*
User avatar
Kleene Onigiri
Community Rice Warrior
*punches Akonyl*

Posts:
2479

Re: Unpopular Opinions about the Detective Conan

Post by Kleene Onigiri »

@Conan-chandesune: You kinda agree, but don't agree but then you agree.
Let's just agree to not agreeing? Don't wanna argue to your "logic" about opinions.

@kkslider: I'm sorry! I didn't think it'll turn that way. I also liked how it didn't end in conflicts till to that point.

@Chek: Yeah, Haibaras hair is better now. Tho I didn't mind the old haircolor much.

@Kirite: Yeah, also good points. Tho I think Shinichi is a bit screwed up which could be explained by him being left on his own a lot. (His father wanted to give him challenges and stuff while his mom was: "OMG LOOK! THAT'S MY SON! ASFLHJFKJH! *faints*") XD

@sonoci: I kinda understand and kinda don't understand your point about the Eisuke-Shinichi-thing XD
Like, I also found it strange that he denied Eisuke so harsh tho he once said he would give up on her if that made her stop being sad.
Then again, Eisuke kinda rubbed it under his nose, and he was also quite jealous while Eisuke was around. So I don't find it strange that Shinichi told Eisuke off after all tho he wanted to make Ran happy. Guess it's something different to say you would give up on your love and to actually do it in the end.
Gosho could have written if differently, "nicer". But I think that scene fitted Shinichi's image better.

I also don't see a problem with being "possessive". Considering Ran was like that too kinda in the old time. The case with the fax-bento and Ran imagining Shinichi cheating on her (tho Ran always tells Sonoko, that she's not his girlfriend XD at least at that time )
So Ran is also being possessive of Shinichi but at the same time denied her relationship.
Well, while you're being possessive, you always sound as if you're objectifying a person, imo :|
That in itself isn't a problem. But it is a problem when it's hurting the other person. So I do see that point you're making. (Shinichi being possessive of Ran which is "bad" for her)
But then again, Ran is also choosing to wait for Shinichi on her own. Shinichi sees that and is accepting her feelings, thus trying his best to return to her. Since he could still choose to move to America, telling that to Ran and forcing her to forget about him :V

And I always though of Shinichi as an "asshole" actually XD Tho it depends how you define an asshole anyway. If asshole means you're confident and egoistic, then yes. (because for me, being an asshole also induces being mean to others on purpose, which Shinichi isn't imo. That's why Shinichi is "just" egoistical, selfish and overconfident for me.)
But I guess we mean the same (at least I will assume that now for my post XD)
So I'm a bit surprised why people say he "turned into an asshole" while he was always like that for me from the beginning. He always wants to solve the cases himself and be better than other detectives. He also let Ran alone when there is a case to solve (first episode, Ran was crying because that one person died, Shinichi told her not to make a drama out of it and then ran of to chase Vodka) So for Shinichi, the ranking is usually: 1. Cases, 2. Ran, 3. Friends and other stuff. It just changes when Ran is in danger, he would do anything then for Ran. (and also panics XD)
He also always had his own "law"/ his own morals. He could be classified as chaotic good? XD At least not lawful good :x I think that's why he wants to a detective over an police officer, because police officers would have to follow the law, while detective can be more "free".
Also, Manga/Anime is from a different culture. People there, especially men, are expected to be perfect, confident and always have to smile. The roles there are more "set". It's different or more extreme from the "west".
But there are more and more Anime/Manga where those gender roles or general views about a "good/perfect person" are criticized. (At least I saw a lot)
Shonen genre usually has 2 types of main heroes: the idiot/silly one (Naruto, Gon (Hunter x Hunter), Luffy) or the "asshole"/overconfident one (Shinichi, Kira, Ichigi (Bleach), Lelouch). Both are still confident and strong in a way, because they have to be the main hero :V
But yeah, it would be nice to see Shinichi fall on his ass for once. Just some small loss, like Heiji wins a deduction or such :V But I think that's also a problem with the main plot, because if something really big happens because of Shinichi's, it would mean that something big in the story would happen. He'd probably have to loose against the BO in some situation then, that's why we will probably see such a thing at the end if at all :V

Not sure if I made my points clear XD During my writing I forgot some stuff I wanted to say, haha XD Sorry :x
But yeah, Shinichi is and was always an "asshole", which (for me at least) isn't such a problem. Since not all heroes are like that in all stories.
Sorry, if I didn't get your point still ^^"
Image
Keyhole drawn by Yuri Iwamoto <3
Spoiler: Secret Santa gift from Commi-Ninja <3
A Black Organization Christmas Carol (need to fix the link)
3DS Friend Code: 4141 3202 3514

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Giff holidays
User avatar
saorin
"If I hear you pine for me I will return straightaway to you."

Posts:
181

Re: Unpopular Opinions about the Detective Conan

Post by saorin »

Pmofmalasia wrote: Don't remember the Ran crying right in front of him part, though, which case was that?
I'd say we're talking about the London case here, actually.
Look like the innocent flower,
But be the serpent under it.
("Macbeth")
User avatar
Pmofmalasia

Posts:
412

Re: Unpopular Opinions about the Detective Conan

Post by Pmofmalasia »

saorin wrote:
Pmofmalasia wrote: Don't remember the Ran crying right in front of him part, though, which case was that?
I'd say we're talking about the London case here, actually.
That can't be it, the only time he sees her as Shinichi she does cry in front of him but he chases her down and talks to her. Sonoci said that there was a time that he ignored her to listen to a case.
3DS FC: 4983-5030-7788. Add me, Pokemon trainers!
User avatar
sonoci
Everyone's Child

Posts:
1548

Re: Unpopular Opinions about the Detective Conan

Post by sonoci »

Pmofmalasia wrote:
saorin wrote:
Pmofmalasia wrote: Don't remember the Ran crying right in front of him part, though, which case was that?
I'd say we're talking about the London case here, actually.
That can't be it, the only time he sees her as Shinichi she does cry in front of him but he chases her down and talks to her. Sonoci said that there was a time that he ignored her to listen to a case.
That's what I was talking about actually. Yeah, he does chase her down, but only after she runs away. At least, I remember Skyechan's rewatch post had a "Least Favorite" portion where she was disappointed over Shinichi ignoring what Ran was saying in order to ask about the case. Here's the link to her post (complete with screencaps) and here's the specific portion I'm referring to in Skye's post:
Shin’ichi you insensitive ASS. D: Your best friend is crying, pouring her heart out to you, and again all you can think about is the damn case. Hasn’t all your time as Conan taught you anything?
Image
User avatar
Kleene Onigiri
Community Rice Warrior
*punches Akonyl*

Posts:
2479

Re: Unpopular Opinions about the Detective Conan

Post by Kleene Onigiri »

sonoci wrote:
Pmofmalasia wrote:
saorin wrote:
Pmofmalasia wrote: Don't remember the Ran crying right in front of him part, though, which case was that?
I'd say we're talking about the London case here, actually.
That can't be it, the only time he sees her as Shinichi she does cry in front of him but he chases her down and talks to her. Sonoci said that there was a time that he ignored her to listen to a case.
That's what I was talking about actually. Yeah, he does chase her down, but only after she runs away. At least, I remember Skyechan's rewatch post had a "Least Favorite" portion where she was disappointed over Shinichi ignoring what Ran was saying in order to ask about the case. Here's the link to her post (complete with screencaps) and here's the specific portion I'm referring to in Skye's post:
Shin’ichi you insensitive ASS. D: Your best friend is crying, pouring her heart out to you, and again all you can think about is the damn case. Hasn’t all your time as Conan taught you anything?
In the very first episode he also ignores her (crying) to chase after Vodka.


Another opinion:
I like Yamamura and think he's funny. Also, he's kinda a needed device for the series. Since there are just serious police officers left now. In the earlier episodes, Megure was actually more portrayed as a silly/clumsy police officer. So now, Yamamura is taking over that part for DC so that a police officer can make mistakes or ask stupid questions during a case.
Lot's of people hate him :x
Image
Keyhole drawn by Yuri Iwamoto <3
Spoiler: Secret Santa gift from Commi-Ninja <3
A Black Organization Christmas Carol (need to fix the link)
3DS Friend Code: 4141 3202 3514

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Giff holidays
User avatar
sonoci
Everyone's Child

Posts:
1548

Re: Unpopular Opinions about the Detective Conan

Post by sonoci »

Kleene Onigiri wrote:In the very first episode he also ignores her (crying) to chase after Vodka.


Another opinion:
I like Yamamura and think he's funny. Also, he's kinda a needed device for the series. Since there are just serious police officers left now. In the earlier episodes, Megure was actually more portrayed as a silly/clumsy police officer. So now, Yamamura is taking over that part for DC so that a police officer can make mistakes or ask stupid questions during a case.
Lot's of people hate him :x
I also like Yamamura and for the same reasons you do Kleene. I think the hate he gets is due to the fact that all of the stupid questions and mistakes were given to Yamamura, which admittedly can get tiring if it irks you. I like it because it's a break from the serious detectives who, as badass as some are, gets a little bland.
Image
User avatar
kkslider5552000
Community Villain
Enjoys making videos that no one will watch

Posts:
8032
Contact:

Re: Unpopular Opinions about the Detective Conan

Post by kkslider5552000 »

I genuinely think Yamamura is one of the funniest characters. I especially enjoyed when he became (more?) rude and started thinking way too highly of himself once he became inspector. Like, I can imagine him treating the officers like s***, thinking he is the greatest inspector of all time and just being the most over-the-top jerk possible. But then I remember how old that joke got in Foster's Home so maybe not. :/

another one, Sonoko is one of the best characters too. While she is as much in ridiculous and semi-idealistic anime world as anyone in this series, she's shockingly similar to a couple of girls I knew in high school (and considering her character is not anything particularly new, I'm certain I'm not the only one).
Let's Play Bioshock Infinite: https://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?f= ... 94#p879594

Image

3DS friend code: 2878 - 9709 - 5054
Wii U ID: SliderGamer55
User avatar
Ringo
Biblioriptos, Resident Sniffer

Posts:
176

Re: Unpopular Opinions about the Detective Conan

Post by Ringo »

Yay for Yamamura! I wonder why people don't feel the same about Genta's stupidity.
Our achievements should not see the light of day; but our failures will become widely known.
User avatar
Wakarimashita
Moderator

Posts:
3641

Re: Unpopular Opinions about the Detective Conan

Post by Wakarimashita »

Because Genta is present in far more episodes than Yamamura. Plus his stupidity is even more annoying than Yamamura's which is a feat in itself.
"I wonder if there really is a God...
If such an entity really existed, wouldn't all honest, hard-working people be happy?"

Image
User avatar
Osaka Detective

Posts:
150

Re: Unpopular Opinions about the Detective Conan

Post by Osaka Detective »

Wwakarimasitapretty much nailed it. In the 600s, Yamamura appeared only in the Inubushi Castle and the Shadow Approaching Haibara's Secret. It's been 2 years since he last appeared. So considering how Genta appears in so many moreepisodes, I can understand why people are more infuriated with him. :/
User avatar
kkslider5552000
Community Villain
Enjoys making videos that no one will watch

Posts:
8032
Contact:

Re: Unpopular Opinions about the Detective Conan

Post by kkslider5552000 »

also Genta's entire joke is "HARHAR FAT AND DUMB KID"
Let's Play Bioshock Infinite: https://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?f= ... 94#p879594

Image

3DS friend code: 2878 - 9709 - 5054
Wii U ID: SliderGamer55
ccrogers15
Save Case Closed member

Posts:
46
Contact:

Re: Unpopular Opinions about the Detective Conan

Post by ccrogers15 »

My brother said the show sucks and i should be ashamed for watching it. >:(
SAVE CASE CLOSED IN THE USA!
User avatar
Chekhov MacGuffin
Community Scholar
BAGA BGEGD EDBDEG A

Posts:
2684

Re: Unpopular Opinions about the Detective Conan

Post by Chekhov MacGuffin »

kkslider5552000 wrote:also Genta's entire joke is "HARHAR FAT AND DUMB KID"
To be honest I think the Real Children™ in the DB are a Brains-Brawn-Beauty team. That said, Genta does get some actual character development in his main centric cases Genta's certain kill shot and Boy Genta's Misfortune.
ccrogers15 wrote:My brother said the show sucks and i should be ashamed for watching it. >:(
Tell him Detective Conan is aimed at intelligent people, so you understand why he doesn't like it. [/childish bickering]
User avatar
Conan-chandesune
Community eccentric

Posts:
1983

Re: Unpopular Opinions about the Detective Conan

Post by Conan-chandesune »

Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
ccrogers15 wrote:My brother said the show sucks and i should be ashamed for watching it. >:(
Tell him Detective Conan is aimed at intelligent people, so you understand why he doesn't like it. [/childish bickering]
This. Also, i guess this opinion may be unpopular, but i like KID and his involvement in the main plot. That pandora BO connection should be made canon.
I am a geek~~~~~~~~~~~~
I am a flirt!
I love mysteries!
I love comics~

Jd-'s official apprentice
Post Reply