Something between Haibs and Gin?

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Re: Something between Haibs and Gin?

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1. Well, Sherry's nakedness was compared to Satou and Ran by chekhov. And I compared it to the Vermouth one too, in which the purpose of "being naked" was, that the reader/or someone doesn't know the details/whereabouts about the person.

2. Why use rhetorical questions in a forum?


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Kleene Onigiri wrote: 1. Well, Sherry's nakedness was compared to Satou and Ran by chekhov. And I compared it to the Vermouth one too, in which the purpose of "being naked" was, that the reader/or someone doesn't know the details/whereabouts about the person.

2. Why use rhetorical questions in a forum?
1. Hmm, dk what to think there, I assumed she felt it was the opposite. And in idea that's nice, but the context and the images given of both girls basically make that a point of "then Gosho dropped the ball if that was his goal".

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Re: Something between Haibs and Gin?

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1. Guess it can be interpreted both ways. Tho for me, it's more a method that Gosho used similar to the shadowman thingy :V
But I don't agree that it can only have a sexual meaning D: Since the Vermouth example is definitely not meant in that way (but is a bit of a fanservice <3)

2. Arr~ reason accepted.
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Kleene Onigiri wrote: 1. Guess it can be interpreted both ways. Tho for me, it's more a method that Gosho used similar to the shadowman thingy :V
But I don't agree that it can only have a sexual meaning D: Since the Vermouth example is definitely not meant in that way (but is a bit of a fanservice <3)
Implying Vermouth can have meanings not sexual :P.... also bamboo.
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what is "bamboo"?
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sushimaster wrote: what is "bamboo"?
A drink made of Sherry and Vermouth.
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*pokes head in* Hullo, did someone just say Sherry x Vermouth? ;D
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Abs. wrote: *pokes head in* Hullo, did someone just say Sherry x Vermouth? ;D
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Kleene Onigiri wrote: You should check the bus hijack case then. Vermouth is randomly being show naked there too.
I did. The distinction I made is when one character thinks about another, not just shown on their own like Vermouth was in that situation.
Kleene Onigiri wrote: In the other scenes, where Ran and Sato were shown naked, you were also able to see the face etc.
But here for sherry, you couldn't. That's why it's more likely that she was shown naked because it should be the "shadow man" style (not knowing how she looks exactly)
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I strongly suggest anyone curious about this issue to google "kentaru returning to sherry" and have a look at the reedit of that case.
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ranger wrote: I always thought there was some sort of sexual abuse to Shiho from Gin, definitely one sided. She could have been raped by him. In episode 176, when Ayumi touches Ai's shoulder, she freaks out and says something along the lines of "Don't touch me!" after her nightmare.

It might be a bit extreme, especially for a Shounen series like Detective Conan, but there are some underlying adult themes that can be interpreted.
If that's the case, I doubt Gosho will tell us anything explicitly in the manga. In all those hundreds of chapters, I don't recall any rape case. There might be one or two that I forgot, but the fact is, it's either non-existent or so rare. Most of them deal with thefts, robberies, kidnappings, or murders (or in DB case, treasure hunts).
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ranger wrote: I always thought there was some sort of sexual abuse to Shiho from Gin, definitely one sided. She could have been raped by him. In episode 176, when Ayumi touches Ai's shoulder, she freaks out and says something along the lines of "Don't touch me!" after her nightmare.

It might be a bit extreme, especially for a Shounen series like Detective Conan, but there are some underlying adult themes that can be interpreted.
I actually agree with some parts of his. Haibara has shown signs of P.S.T.D numerous times during the series that can also be signs of sexual abuse of some sort. I don't know if it was definitely sexual in nature as I have never even suspected it.  I have however suspected something traumatic happened between Gin and Sherry before what happened at Haido City Hotel.
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suutashi wrote:
ranger wrote: I always thought there was some sort of sexual abuse to Shiho from Gin, definitely one sided. She could have been raped by him. In episode 176, when Ayumi touches Ai's shoulder, she freaks out and says something along the lines of "Don't touch me!" after her nightmare.

It might be a bit extreme, especially for a Shounen series like Detective Conan, but there are some underlying adult themes that can be interpreted.
I actually agree with some parts of his. Haibara has shown signs of P.S.T.D numerous times during the series that can also be signs of sexual abuse of some sort. I don't know if it was definitely sexual in nature as I have never even suspected it.  I have however suspected something traumatic happened between Gin and Sherry before what happened at Haido City Hotel.
Since Sherry still have times to smirking and teasing Gin even after Gin first shoot, I'm not sure there's something traumatic happened between Gin and Sherry.
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Sherry86 wrote:
suutashi wrote:
ranger wrote: I always thought there was some sort of sexual abuse to Shiho from Gin, definitely one sided. She could have been raped by him. In episode 176, when Ayumi touches Ai's shoulder, she freaks out and says something along the lines of "Don't touch me!" after her nightmare.

It might be a bit extreme, especially for a Shounen series like Detective Conan, but there are some underlying adult themes that can be interpreted.
I actually agree with some parts of his. Haibara has shown signs of P.S.T.D numerous times during the series that can also be signs of sexual abuse of some sort. I don't know if it was definitely sexual in nature as I have never even suspected it.  I have however suspected something traumatic happened between Gin and Sherry before what happened at Haido City Hotel.
Since Sherry still have times to smirking and teasing Gin even after Gin first shoot, I'm not sure there's something traumatic happened between Gin and Sherry.
That only happened during the Haido City Hotel Case and it is possible it was just a facade. She may have just been putting on a brave face as a sort of shield seeing as she was in a very bad situation with no obvious way out. After all there are some people in the world that tend to smirk when they are terrified.
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sushimaster wrote:
ranger wrote: I always thought there was some sort of sexual abuse to Shiho from Gin, definitely one sided. She could have been raped by him. In episode 176, when Ayumi touches Ai's shoulder, she freaks out and says something along the lines of "Don't touch me!" after her nightmare.

It might be a bit extreme, especially for a Shounen series like Detective Conan, but there are some underlying adult themes that can be interpreted.
If that's the case, I doubt Gosho will tell us anything explicitly in the manga. In all those hundreds of chapters, I don't recall any rape case. There might be one or two that I forgot, but the fact is, it's either non-existent or so rare. Most of them deal with thefts, robberies, kidnappings, or murders (or in DB case, treasure hunts).
I also doubt gosho will tell anything explicit.
But I kinda doubt it was rape. Simply because Gosho also cares about his characters :P

More like he started to threat her to kill her or her sister in case she wants to run away. Which hurt Shiho in case they had a relationship. (tho that's what I think :P)
Or she dumped him and he started to threat her and stuff.
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