Ai + Conan

[ranger]

all the shinichi and ran moments are always the same in my opinion.

It's so predictable, Ran always breaks down and starts crying at the most simplest things...such as recieving a phone call from Kudo.
She's a nice girl, but haibara and kudo are so much better together! they always act sarcastic and tease each other, which IMO makes a better couple!

Plus, Ai is much cuter

[KaitoKid0]

all the shinichi and ran moments are always the same in my opinion.

It's so predictable, Ran always breaks down and starts crying at the most simplest things...such as recieving a phone call from Kudo.
She's a nice girl, but haibara and kudo are so much better together! they always act sarcastic and tease each other, which IMO makes a better couple!

Plus, Ai is much cuter

your right i mean comon Ran and Shinichi is boring old and so not original .
There are many reasons why ai/shiho and conan/shinichi should be together.

-They understand each other better than anyone and even in such a short time where as ran doesnt understand shinich as much as haibara even though they are childhood friends
-they are cute ,hilarous and cool together where as him with ran is borning and unoriginal
-ai/shiho and conan/shinichi would surely last forever
-ran and shinichi probably only a few years

[soratothamax]

all the shinichi and ran moments are always the same in my opinion.

It's so predictable, Ran always breaks down and starts crying at the most simplest things...such as recieving a phone call from Kudo.
She's a nice girl, but haibara and kudo are so much better together! they always act sarcastic and tease each other, which IMO makes a better couple!

Plus, Ai is much cuter

your right i mean comon Ran and Shinichi is boring old and so not original .
There are many reasons why ai/shiho and conan/shinichi should be together.

-They understand each other better than anyone and even in such a short time where as ran doesnt understand shinich as much as haibara even though they are childhood friends
-they are cute ,hilarous and cool together where as him with ran is borning and unoriginal
-ai/shiho and conan/shinichi would surely last forever
-ran and shinichi probably only a few years

I'm interested in their relationship complication...it is so DEEP! It's like flirty, but serious. And both of them try to act like they don't care about the other, but really they do, and you can tell (like when Haibara had a fever/cold/temperature, Conan was there late at night, and tried to play it off like he wasn't concerned and then often times Haibara shows she cares about him and appreciates his help, like in the composition of dreams part....) But in the end they always end up teasing out of the sentimental moment or pretending they did nothing! LOL it is hilarious!

Don't you think what happened in the live drama 2 should happen in the manga and anime? Or at least OVA? Shiho has to meet Shinichi! It should be like Shiho vs Shinichi case!

Ran and Shinichi....their moments are TOO lovey dovey, but all of it ends with Ran in tears....that really makes me bang my head against the wall. I guess I'm not into the romantic stuff in DC because I like the BO and cases, and Conan/Ai are deeply involved with both. The way DC is, the lovey dovey parts take from the intense mood. But there's something for everybody...I guess.

[soratothamax]

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Ahhh, this is my subject and another point I was trying to make. With that being said She is October 2, which means she's a Libran, with Venus and Moon as her ruling planets. Meaning she's into having a partner and finding her true love, very diplomatic, and gracious, but the moon makes her very emotional and clingy...the stereotypical Libra and planet for the person born on the second of every month......[/quote]I remember mentioning that a while ago since I'm a Libran too (October 6).  The more I read/watch this series, in this particular regard, the more I realize how much like Ran's character I am.  If I like a guy, my eye doesn't "wander" and do try to approach most things in a diplomatic manner.  Only difference, is that I'm not very emotional.  Not "girly emotional".  I'm more so a tomboy.

Shinichi is a Taurus (like me) and his ruling planet is Venus and Uranus. The stereotypical of a Taurus and the plant for the person born on the fourth of every month. He is loyal, determined, hardworking, but as Uranus a little unconventional, freedom-loving, likes the freedom to be himself and do his own thing, etc, etc....

That sounds exactly like Shinichi.
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Hey you are a Libra....and I am a Taurus.....like Ran and Shinichi! YaY! I've have a really good childhood friend as a Libra, and we are super close (we're both females and she's like a sister to me).

BTW you said your b-day is October 6? You are Venus all the way around! You rule the planet Venus, based on your month and the person born on the sixth of every month. Libra and Venus makes you  gracious, beautiful (handsome if you're a guy), diplomatic, friendly, lazy at times, love to socialize with your good friends, and into the arts: books, art, music, etc!

I'm May 9, I'm Venus and Mars, Taurus makes me stubborn, hard-working, determined, lazy at times, detail-oriented, practical, and sensible. Mars makes me strong-willed, aggressive, active, and makes me have a fighting spirit.....that is so fascinating!

Spoiler:

http://www.astrology.com.au/366bdays/index.asp

[James Rye]

all the shinichi and ran moments are always the same in my opinion.

It's so predictable, Ran always breaks down and starts crying at the most simplest things...such as recieving a phone call from Kudo.
She's a nice girl, but haibara and kudo are so much better together! they always act sarcastic and tease each other, which IMO makes a better couple!

Plus, Ai is much cuter

your right i mean comon Ran and Shinichi is boring old and so not original .
There are many reasons why ai/shiho and conan/shinichi should be together.

-They understand each other better than anyone and even in such a short time where as ran doesnt understand shinich as much as haibara even though they are childhood friends
-they are cute ,hilarous and cool together where as him with ran is borning and unoriginal
-ai/shiho and conan/shinichi would surely last forever
-ran and shinichi probably only a few years

Let´s say, it makes them more interesting when they tease each other and stuff, it doesn´t make them automatically "better".^^
The problem with Ran is, in my eyes, that her developement in the whole 700 Chapters isn´t that great like in the case from Conan or Ai.
She doesn´t always stay the same, but for most of the time it appears so. Because of that it bores a few readers or much readers, who knows. 

Ran came in the 90´s and Ai in the 00´s if i´m right, So Ran was from the "old" generation, where such lovley, cute, loyal, pretty, house-wife-like and almost perfect girls/woman were really popular 8they still are^^). Ai was from the "new" generation, she was also pretty (and here and there a bit cute), but stubborn, easy to annoyed, doesn´t really want to relate on others, kinda cold and mysterious.
Well both have their fans and you have to understand Ranichi-fans cause most of them waited for years, that Shinichi and Ran comes together so they don´t want him to fall in love with another woman.

Aicon-fans doesn´t see the chemistry in Ranichi (to be honest, i also doesn´t see that^^) but the one between Ai and Conan. It looks like they have a lot in common yet a lot of difference either. Cause of the BO, the problems of trusting and other stuff Aicon looks for many or few DC-fans a lot more interesting than Ran and Shinichis relationship.
Of cource most of them they want a happy ending for Ai and Conan, but in that case Shinichi need to "lose" his love-interest at Ran and need to fall in love with Ai/Shiho at the same time.

It doesn´t look that way right now, but i (and others i think^g^) still hope that Gosho have a surprise for us about Ai/Shiho, Ran and Shinichi/Conan.

[ranger]

all the shinichi and ran moments are always the same in my opinion.

It's so predictable, Ran always breaks down and starts crying at the most simplest things...such as recieving a phone call from Kudo.
She's a nice girl, but haibara and kudo are so much better together! they always act sarcastic and tease each other, which IMO makes a better couple!

Plus, Ai is much cuter

your right i mean comon Ran and Shinichi is boring old and so not original .
There are many reasons why ai/shiho and conan/shinichi should be together.

-They understand each other better than anyone and even in such a short time where as ran doesnt understand shinich as much as haibara even though they are childhood friends
-they are cute ,hilarous and cool together where as him with ran is borning and unoriginal
-ai/shiho and conan/shinichi would surely last forever
-ran and shinichi probably only a few years

Let´s say, it makes them more interesting when they tease each other and stuff, it doesn´t make them automatically "better".^^
The problem with Ran is, in my eyes, that her developement in the whole 700 Chapters isn´t that great like in the case from Conan or Ai.
She doesn´t always stay the same, but for most of the time it appears so. Because of that it bores a few readers or much readers, who knows. 

Ran came in the 90´s and Ai in the 00´s if i´m right, So Ran was from the "old" generation, where such lovley, cute, loyal, pretty, house-wife-like and almost perfect girls/woman were really popular 8they still are^^). Ai was from the "new" generation, she was also pretty (and here and there a bit cute), but stubborn, easy to annoyed, doesn´t really want to relate on others, kinda cold and mysterious.
Well both have their fans and you have to understand Ranichi-fans cause most of them waited for years, that Shinichi and Ran comes together so they don´t want him to fall in love with another woman.

Aicon-fans doesn´t see the chemistry in Ranichi (to be honest, i also doesn´t see that^^) but the one between Ai and Conan. It looks like they have a lot in common yet a lot of difference either. Cause of the BO, the problems of trusting and other stuff Aicon looks for many or few DC-fans a lot more interesting than Ran and Shinichis relationship.
Of cource most of them they want a happy ending for Ai and Conan, but in that case Shinichi need to "lose" his love-interest at Ran and need to fall in love with Ai/Shiho at the same time.

It doesn´t look that way right now, but i (and others i think^g^) still hope that Gosho have a surprise for us about Ai/Shiho, Ran and Shinichi/Conan.

nice  post!  I guess that's true. the people who like bad girls like haibara, cuz shes such a mysterious, sexy bad girl XD

anyways, ill be pissed if DC ending w/o haibara or conan at least admitting their feelings to one another

[KaitoKid0]

The thing is that i understand shinichi and rans relationship but its so boring and unoriginal and idk why gosho would put haibara in if she wouldnt be a potential love interest for shinichi he could of easily made haibaras character a guy

there must of bin a romantic reason why he put haibara

ran and shinichi is just too...ordinarry in anime someone as and i do mean GENUIS as gosho must put amore interesting pair up other than ran and shinichi.

like seriously they have nothing in common...ran is to slow for shin , haibara can keep up..shes cuter more adorable cooler....shes just much much better than ran

comon people who would you rather see a couple thats all unoriginal boring lovey dovey mushy )(ranXshinichi), or a cool exciting loving couple (shiho/haibaraX/shinichi/conan)

[Vapid Philosophy]

The thing is that i understand shinichi and rans relationship but its so boring and unoriginal and idk why gosho would put haibara in if she wouldnt be a potential love interest for shinichi he could of easily made haibaras character a guy

there must of bin a romantic reason why he put haibara

ran and shinichi is just too...ordinarry in anime someone as and i do mean GENUIS as gosho must put amore interesting pair up other than ran and shinichi.

like seriously they have nothing in common...ran is to slow for shin , haibara can keep up..shes cuter more adorable cooler....shes just much much better than ran

comon people who would you rather see a couple thats all unoriginal boring lovey dovey mushy )(ranXshinichi), or a cool exciting loving couple (shiho/haibaraX/shinichi/conan)

Hahaha but extraordinaryxordinary is what Gosho does all the time. Ran and Shinichi, Kazuha and Heiji, Kaito and Aoko. Heck you even see it in the parents Eri and Kogoro, and Yusaku and Yukiko, not to mention Akai and Akemi.

I think its his way of balancing out the two. If you have extraordinary couple like AiConan it seems a bit unrealistic. And before anyone says anything about martial arts or acting or black organization power, yes I am aware that those traits are out of the ordinary. I am specifically talking about the trait of intelligence.

I like the AiConan interaction. I think its funny as hell, but I dunno, I don't see as much evidence for that happening. Hmm maybe I'm just dense.

I'm not an shipper of any ship anymore. It gets tiring after 10+ years and no new development. 

And I don't agree with an above post that RanShinichi will only last a few years. I mean Ran is one of the reasons that Conan wants to return to his old self, not the main reason (his desire of justice), but an important one nonetheless. I do think that if they get together, it will be forever. Sorry about the cheese.

On another note, can someone direct me to some AiConan moments? I'm rewatching every episode I have and I can only find 3 definitive ones, Movie 4, Desperate Revival Arc and the Bus Hijacking.

[ranger]

episode 345 with the confrontation with the black organization

the whole story arc behind that really, starting from 335 ending with 347...

man I can list a whole bunch!

in episode 280, conan thinks haibara is leaving, but she's actually not, and asks "you will protect me right?" and conan says "yeah" all teary-eyed...

hmm in the BO confrontation arc, kudo's mom notices that haibara is in love with conan, and conan almost asks her if thats true while they are in bed together (heheh..they are in bed together).  Also in the arc, i mean conan is watching over haibara the whole time while she's sick, and haibara dreams of conan.

hmm, in the baker phantom ghost movie, haibara saves conans "virtual life" in the game if that counts.

Theres a whole bunch more you can notice, from the way she smirks at edogawa-kun and such!

I've only seen up to like 360, so there might be more!!

[Vapid Philosophy]

hmm in the BO confrontation arc, kudo's mom notices that haibara is in love with conan, and conan almost asks her if thats true while they are in bed together (heheh..they are in bed together).  Also in the arc, i mean conan is watching over haibara the whole time while she's sick, and haibara dreams of conan.

WHAT@!!! WHERE IS THIS?????
I just watched that 345 not long ago? I can't believe I missed this! Which episode is this in?

[KaitoKid0]

The thing is that i understand shinichi and rans relationship but its so boring and unoriginal and idk why gosho would put haibara in if she wouldnt be a potential love interest for shinichi he could of easily made haibaras character a guy

there must of bin a romantic reason why he put haibara

ran and shinichi is just too...ordinarry in anime someone as and i do mean GENUIS as gosho must put amore interesting pair up other than ran and shinichi.

like seriously they have nothing in common...ran is to slow for shin , haibara can keep up..shes cuter more adorable cooler....shes just much much better than ran

comon people who would you rather see a couple thats all unoriginal boring lovey dovey mushy )(ranXshinichi), or a cool exciting loving couple (shiho/haibaraX/shinichi/conan)

Hahaha but extraordinaryxordinary is what Gosho does all the time. Ran and Shinichi, Kazuha and Heiji, Kaito and Aoko. Heck you even see it in the parents Eri and Kogoro, and Yusaku and Yukiko, not to mention Akai and Akemi.

I think its his way of balancing out the two. If you have extraordinary couple like AiConan it seems a bit unrealistic. And before anyone says anything about martial arts or acting or black organization power, yes I am aware that those traits are out of the ordinary. I am specifically talking about the trait of intelligence.

I like the AiConan interaction. I think its funny as hell, but I dunno, I don't see as much evidence for that happening. Hmm maybe I'm just dense.

I'm not an shipper of any ship anymore. It gets tiring after 10+ years and no new development. 

And I don't agree with an above post that RanShinichi will only last a few years. I mean Ran is one of the reasons that Conan wants to return to his old self, not the main reason (his desire of justice), but an important one nonetheless. I do think that if they get together, it will be forever. Sorry about the cheese.

On another note, can someone direct me to some AiConan moments? I'm rewatching every episode I have and I can only find 3 definitive ones, Movie 4, Desperate Revival Arc and the Bus Hijacking.

sorry to say but maybe you are dense xP. jk. but there are alot of hints about ai and conan you just got to watch them and your saying ai and conan arent realistic? you just said ran and shinichi will be together forever thats unrealistic...they are tottally different people ai and conan are alike and better suited for each other and are more entertaining thats realistic

[Vapid Philosophy]

The thing is that i understand shinichi and rans relationship but its so boring and unoriginal and idk why gosho would put haibara in if she wouldnt be a potential love interest for shinichi he could of easily made haibaras character a guy

there must of bin a romantic reason why he put haibara

ran and shinichi is just too...ordinarry in anime someone as and i do mean GENUIS as gosho must put amore interesting pair up other than ran and shinichi.

like seriously they have nothing in common...ran is to slow for shin , haibara can keep up..shes cuter more adorable cooler....shes just much much better than ran

comon people who would you rather see a couple thats all unoriginal boring lovey dovey mushy )(ranXshinichi), or a cool exciting loving couple (shiho/haibaraX/shinichi/conan)

Hahaha but extraordinaryxordinary is what Gosho does all the time. Ran and Shinichi, Kazuha and Heiji, Kaito and Aoko. Heck you even see it in the parents Eri and Kogoro, and Yusaku and Yukiko, not to mention Akai and Akemi.

I think its his way of balancing out the two. If you have extraordinary couple like AiConan it seems a bit unrealistic. And before anyone says anything about martial arts or acting or black organization power, yes I am aware that those traits are out of the ordinary. I am specifically talking about the trait of intelligence.

I like the AiConan interaction. I think its funny as hell, but I dunno, I don't see as much evidence for that happening. Hmm maybe I'm just dense.

I'm not an shipper of any ship anymore. It gets tiring after 10+ years and no new development. 

And I don't agree with an above post that RanShinichi will only last a few years. I mean Ran is one of the reasons that Conan wants to return to his old self, not the main reason (his desire of justice), but an important one nonetheless. I do think that if they get together, it will be forever. Sorry about the cheese.

On another note, can someone direct me to some AiConan moments? I'm rewatching every episode I have and I can only find 3 definitive ones, Movie 4, Desperate Revival Arc and the Bus Hijacking.

sorry to say but maybe you are dense xP. jk. but there are alot of hints about ai and conan you just got to watch them and your saying ai and conan arent realistic? you just said ran and shinichi will be together forever thats unrealistic...they are tottally different people ai and conan are alike and better suited for each other and are more entertaining thats realistic

Fine unrealistic is a bad choice of words, what I mean is its kinda, um like too awesome. Its honestly how I feel. Shinichi, no matter how you think about it is an unrealistic character, in almost every aspect, and Ai is the exact same way. I love them both as characters, and honestly it'd be great if they got together because their interaction with each other is pretty awesome, but its like urgh I don't really know how to explain it. I think you need a someone more real in order to balance out Shinichi. Ran, while being way too good at karate, is a more realistic character and I think its balances that out. Perhaps I'm projecting way too much, but honestly that what I think Gosho is trying to do.

What I meant by unrealistic is not that it couldn't happen, but that is a bit unrelatable. Wow I don't make sense do I?

And what I'm basing my RanShinichi thing on is not their personalities, which I agree are pretty different, but what the plot gives us. They're been best friends since elementary school and just the way they act when they are not together leads me to think that. 

I do agree that ConanAi are way more interesting to watch though. Ran tends to get boring after a while.

Yeah I only good at noticing anvil sized hints. i.e Blushing, confessions, getting jealous and the like.

[Girl19]

Hahaha but extraordinaryxordinary is what Gosho does all the time. Ran and Shinichi, Kazuha and Heiji, Kaito and Aoko. Heck you even see it in the parents Eri and Kogoro, and Yusaku and Yukiko, not to mention Akai and Akemi.

Yusaku and Yukiko aren't an extraordinaryXordinary couple; Yukiko is very clever as well.. maybe not as much as Yusaku, but she's way too clever and cool to be put in the same category with Ran, Kazuha and Aoko. Same thing goes for Akemi, we didn't get to see her much unfortunately, but she's very smart too (watch episodes 340-341). As for the EriXKogoro couple, well that's another story since Kogoro is like a chameleon; sometimes he's smart and can solve crimes, but most of the time he's too stupid or maybe just acts so.. dunno what to think about that couple. Anyhow, not all DC couples are "extraordinaryXordinary".. there are few exceptions and AiXConan would have just make another one if it were canon. *Daydreams* lol

hmm in the BO confrontation arc, kudo's mom notices that haibara is in love with conan, and conan almost asks her if thats true while they are in bed together (heheh..they are in bed together).  Also in the arc, i mean conan is watching over haibara the whole time while she's sick, and haibara dreams of conan.

WHAT@!!! WHERE IS THIS?????
I just watched that 345 not long ago? I can't believe I missed this! Which episode is this in?

It's episode 335. You can watch that specific part Here.

Yeah I only good at noticing anvil sized hints. i.e Blushing, confessions, getting jealous and the like.

While Ai has shown jealousy towards Ran several times (especially in the beginning), I'm not too sure about Conan. What's sure is that he really cares about Ai and there definitely is "something" between the 2 of them; even the rest of the Detective Boys have noticed that a couple times (especially Ayumi and Mistuhiko).

On another note, can someone direct me to some AiConan moments? I'm rewatching every episode I have and I can only find 3 definitive ones, Movie 4, Desperate Revival Arc and the Bus Hijacking.

As mentioned above, there are MANY AiCon "evidences", starting from Ai's first appearance (when Conan blushed) to the newest episodes. Here are some AiCon clips.

[DSF]

sorry to say but maybe you are dense xP. jk. but there are alot of hints about ai and conan you just got to watch them and your saying ai and conan arent realistic? you just said ran and shinichi will be together forever thats unrealistic...they are tottally different people ai and conan are alike and better suited for each other and are more entertaining thats realistic

Lol opposites attract buddy Aixconan could happen but I think its pretty unlikely. And lol at stating your opinion as if its a fact

[James Rye]

sorry to say but maybe you are dense xP. jk. but there are alot of hints about ai and conan you just got to watch them and your saying ai and conan arent realistic? you just said ran and shinichi will be together forever thats unrealistic...they are tottally different people ai and conan are alike and better suited for each other and are more entertaining thats realistic

And well that´s it, for Aicon we have "hints", but Ranichi-fans can say, that their favorite paaring is kinda clear/expected since Volume 1 cause of Rans cofession. If Ran and Shinichi will be together for ever or not or that Ai and Conan are better off with each other cause they have more in common is a personally opinion.
Personally i like the last one more.^g^
I still hope, that there´s a deeper meaning to it, that Shinichi never used the words "love" and "Ran" in one sentence since 700 Chapters, not only to make more money out of it. >.<

Fine unrealistic is a bad choice of words, what I mean is its kinda, um like too awesome. Its honestly how I feel. Shinichi, no matter how you think about it is an unrealistic character, in almost every aspect, and Ai is the exact same way. I love them both as characters, and honestly it'd be great if they got together because their interaction with each other is pretty awesome, but its like urgh I don't really know how to explain it. I think you need a someone more real in order to balance out Shinichi. Ran, while being way too good at karate, is a more realistic character and I think its balances that out. Perhaps I'm projecting way too much, but honestly that what I think Gosho is trying to do.

What I meant by unrealistic is not that it couldn't happen, but that is a bit unrelatable. Wow I don't make sense do I?

And what I'm basing my RanShinichi thing on is not their personalities, which I agree are pretty different, but what the plot gives us. They're been best friends since elementary school and just the way they act when they are not together leads me to think that.  

I do agree that ConanAi are way more interesting to watch though. Ran tends to get boring after a while.

Yeah I only good at noticing anvil sized hints. i.e Blushing, confessions, getting jealous and the like.

First to defend Ai and Conan, they NEED to be over the top. You wouldn´t want to watch a show with only ordinary people who fights bad-ass gangsters with allmost nothing to use aganist them. Shinichi needs to be an "super-detectiv" to be a thread to the BO and Ai needs to be an great chemnist and a member of the BO to be also a thread to them.
Sure, that´s look like way to awesome, but both have faults and fears which made them more vulnerable, like Shinichis fault to do the most dangerous things all alone or Ais fear before the BO. But both are able to overcome their "bad sides", Shinichi stops thinking he´s the center of the world cause of his awesomeness and Ai was able to overcome her unbearable fear before Vermouth/BO.

In my eyes, Ran is an unrealistic person. She´s loved by everyone, no one is envy of her or hates her and the only two people who did that (Kazuha and Ai) are now her friend or respect her. Whatever Ran give her first try, she ends up doing it great and awesome, like backing a cake which is instantly loved by Conan/Shinichi, the other girl needed to make hundreds (XD) of cakes before Shinichi said it was okay. Or when she maked a teacup out of terra cotta or when she lands a plane and so on.
Also her "weaknesses" like beeing scared by ghost or being naive are always cute, kawaii or neat etc.
Ran has, for my taste, too many Mary-Sue-faktors. I like her nice and caring personallity, but it´s still more unrealistic to me then Ai or Conas/Shinichis charas.^^"

And you just say it yourself, the way they act when they are NOT together. Shinichi only knows that Ran loves him, cause he hears that from her as Conan, if he would have stayed Shinichi he could have waited probably for years before he would have heard her confession.
When Shinichi and Ran are together they (of cource...) denies it with all mighty that they are in love with each other or have romantically thoughts about the other one.
Remember the time of their "date" in the restaurant before Shinichi turns back to Conan? Ran didn´t expect an romatical date so she brought her copies from school cause she thoughts that Shinichi would ask her about the homework.

Hm, the hints about Aicon are more...subtal. The only time when Ai "really" blushed was when she was disguised as Conan. When she was jealous you also heard later, that she evades Ran cause she resemble too much her dead sister Akemi. Confessions... nope, nothing, but who knows, maybe it will happen earlier then we expect it to happen.

Lol opposites attract buddy Smiley Aixconan could happen but I think its pretty unlikely. And lol at stating your opinion as if its a fact

"Gleich und gleich gesellt sich gern." = "Birds of a feather flock together."

Right now it´s indeed unlikely to happen, but we don´t know what will happen in 100 or more chapters, it´s easier to fall in love then most thinks.^^