Ai + Conan

[Detective Prince]

I still don't get why the BO wants her dead so much. I mean to send three of his best members to kill off this one girl. Is she that much of a threat?

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or are they curious about who is protecting her and wondering if he's a threat

Anyone who knows about the BO and isn't in the BO needs to be eliminated. Someone who was a member even more some than someone who simply worked with them (though they need to be killed also; the guy from Mantendo, the professor dude, the lawyer, Itakura, etc;).

Yea but, having to send Vermouth? And Sending Bourbon too? Makes me think that they don't have a lot of assasins after all. Still seems a lot of effort to kill off one girl.

[Kor]

I still don't get why the BO wants her dead so much. I mean to send three of his best members to kill off this one girl. Is she that much of a threat?

Spoiler:

or are they curious about who is protecting her and wondering if he's a threat

Anyone who knows about the BO and isn't in the BO needs to be eliminated. Someone who was a member even more some than someone who simply worked with them (though they need to be killed also; the guy from Mantendo, the professor dude, the lawyer, Itakura, etc;).

Yea but, having to send Vermouth? And Sending Bourbon too? Makes me think that they don't have a lot of assasins after all. Still seems a lot of effort to kill off one girl.

Vermouth wasn't sent, she acted on her own accords. And we don't know Bourbon is after Haibara, that's only Jodie's assumption. But since it's "Sherry hunting" everything is possible.

[sstimson]

And I think that's strange because Sherry doesn't know any of the other members. Why Gin? It's not like he's a scientist. Why would he overlook a science project he wouldn't understand much of anyway?

Chekhov. Guess what. YOU ARE WRONG. Sherry knew her parents which were BO members. She knows Pisco, or at least he knows her ( possible too much time pasted and she did not keep up.)
I find it funny You say "because Sherry doesn't know any of the other members." She might know them all. Including who the BOSS is. Her "BO sixth sense" goes off too much for her to know very few members. By the way I know she knows Vermouth by the way she acts whenever Vermouth is near.

*headesk* This is the kind of situation where you might want to go back to the original post where I much more carefully laid out how much Shiho knows about the other B.O. members. Obviously she knows some of them, like her parents, Gin and Vodka, and Rye. What I'm talking about here is that for B.O. agents not in the science arena. Shiho may have heard of their codenames, but she hasn't met many of them in person.
Here was the original quote I made about them...

Shiho hardly knew most of the other agents in non-science related positions. She hadn't met Pisco since she was a baby, she had only heard of Korn and Chianti, and hadn't heard of Kir. Bourbon is new and thus doesn't count. Conan never asked about Tequila. Vermouth likely had a connection with Shiho's parents because of her apparent aging wonkiness despite not being in science. Gin is on the business/assassination side of things, so it is anomalous how well he seems to know her given how she doesn't know much about anyone else outside of the research branch.

While I agree Gin might not be 'sexually obsessed' with Sherry, I must disagree about him being eager to get 'the traitor'.  It all goes back to where he could have shot her dead and shot at her basically nicking her.

The reason Gin was shooting her and missing her vitals was that he was torturing her to get her to explain how she escaped from the chamber. We know this was his goal, and he was not just being a sadistic b*st*rd because after Gin shot her a few times, Vodka said something like "Bro, I don't this woman is going to talk." I would link the page, but the manga translation posted online isn't very good for this chapter. As a minor side note, except for the face shot, Gin definitely wasn't nicking her in the manga. That was changed to make the anime more acceptable.

Well the translation I find have Volka saying she still alive

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[Abs.]

Well the translation I find have Volka saying she still alive

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It's quite simple, you see.  That translation is wrong.

Speaking of translations, Chekhov: It is not solid that "wanton" is meant in the way you think.  (Also, scarlet.)  I'll let you know. <3

[sstimson]

Well the translation I find have Volka saying she still alive

Spoiler:

It's quite simple, you see.  That translation is wrong.

Speaking of translations, Chekhov: It is not solid that "wanton" is meant in the way you think.  (Also, scarlet.)  I'll let you know. <3

then this is simple. I found the raw in an old torrent. To me anyway Vodka is using a lot of words to simple say she will not talk. so what is the true translation for just what he says.

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[Abs.]

"Aniki...  This woman isn't gonna talk."

"talk" can also be "confess," "spill the beans," etc.

[Conia]

"Aniki...  This woman isn't gonna talk."

"talk" can also be "confess," "spill the beans," etc.

SO it means she was going to reveal how she escaped the BO, or at least that's what I think...

[sstimson]

"Aniki...  This woman isn't gonna talk."

"talk" can also be "confess," "spill the beans," etc.

SO it means she was going to reveal how she escaped the BO, or at least that's what I think...

You mean to tell me that Gin who is smart, can not look at the unbroken, unscratched handcuffs and realize that the olny possible way to escape is either to shrink, or being a robot. If she had used a key, there would have been evidence of such. You mean to tell me that Gin can be that dumb. As I do not think that is possible, It could be one more proof for my theory.

[Conia]

"Aniki...  This woman isn't gonna talk."

"talk" can also be "confess," "spill the beans," etc.

SO it means she was going to reveal how she escaped the BO, or at least that's what I think...

You mean to tell me that Gin who is smart, can not look at the unbroken, unscratched handcuffs and realize that the olny possible way to escape is either to shrink, or being a robot. If she had used a key, there would have been evidence of such. You mean to tell me that Gin can be that dumb. As I do not think that is possible, It could be one more proof for my theory.

mmm, I don't know your theory
And Gin, as smart as he can be, hasn't figured out the truth.

[Detective Prince]

"Aniki...  This woman isn't gonna talk."

"talk" can also be "confess," "spill the beans," etc.

SO it means she was going to reveal how she escaped the BO, or at least that's what I think...

You mean to tell me that Gin who is smart, can not look at the unbroken, unscratched handcuffs and realize that the olny possible way to escape is either to shrink, or being a robot. If she had used a key, there would have been evidence of such. You mean to tell me that Gin can be that dumb. As I do not think that is possible, It could be one more proof for my theory.

Ironically he would be dumb to think that she shrunk or turned into a robot.

[ProfParanoia]

"Aniki...  This woman isn't gonna talk."

"talk" can also be "confess," "spill the beans," etc.

SO it means she was going to reveal how she escaped the BO, or at least that's what I think...

You mean to tell me that Gin who is smart, can not look at the unbroken, unscratched handcuffs and realize that the olny possible way to escape is either to shrink, or being a robot. If she had used a key, there would have been evidence of such. You mean to tell me that Gin can be that dumb. As I do not think that is possible, It could be one more proof for my theory.

She said she kept the shirking a secret (which raises the question of wasn't people working with her on it?) so he didn't know. Also why would being a robot help her?

[sstimson]

Then Play Gin

"Aniki...  This woman isn't gonna talk."

"talk" can also be "confess," "spill the beans," etc.

SO it means she was going to reveal how she escaped the BO, or at least that's what I think...

You mean to tell me that Gin who is smart, can not look at the unbroken, unscratched handcuffs and realize that the olny possible way to escape is either to shrink, or being a robot. If she had used a key, there would have been evidence of such. You mean to tell me that Gin can be that dumb. As I do not think that is possible, It could be one more proof for my theory.

Ironically he would be dumb to think that she shrunk or turned into a robot.

What ever remains no matter how improbable must be the truth. You yourself handcuffed Sherry and then locked the door. I believe you would check Sherry so you would know she has the 'poison'. You expect her to take the poison. When you come back, she is gone but everything else is still there.

So what are the possiblities for how she got out of the handcuffs? She might have picked then but there are no scratches and you know she did not has a key. Plus a closer look shows that no key has been used. You are left with three impossible possibilities 1) she teleported out.
But as far as you know Teleporters do not yet exist. 2) She removed her hand. As there is no blood at the scene, you know she did not cut it off. That means that in order for that method to work she would need to remove a hand and then re-screw it on. But as far as you know she is not a robot or has a fake hand. You make sure that the hand you cuffed was real. You have hear rumors about younger mice and you know what the BO is really about. So the third choice becomes the only one left and must be the right one. Somehow she shrink.

[dilbertschalter]

Then Play Gin

"Aniki...  This woman isn't gonna talk."

"talk" can also be "confess," "spill the beans," etc.

SO it means she was going to reveal how she escaped the BO, or at least that's what I think...

You mean to tell me that Gin who is smart, can not look at the unbroken, unscratched handcuffs and realize that the olny possible way to escape is either to shrink, or being a robot. If she had used a key, there would have been evidence of such. You mean to tell me that Gin can be that dumb. As I do not think that is possible, It could be one more proof for my theory.

Ironically he would be dumb to think that she shrunk or turned into a robot.

What ever remains no matter how improbable must be the truth. You yourself handcuffed Sherry and then locked the door. I believe you would check Sherry so you would know she has the 'poison'. You expect her to take the poison. When you come back, she is gone but everything else is still there.

So what are the possiblities for how she got out of the handcuffs? She might have picked then but there are no scratches and you know she did not has a key. Plus a closer look shows that no key has been used. You are left with three impossible possibilities 1) she teleported out.
But as far as you know Teleporters do not yet exist. 2) She removed her hand. As there is no blood at the scene, you know she did not cut it off. That means that in order for that method to work she would need to remove a hand and then re-screw it on. But as far as you know she is not a robot or has a fake hand. You make sure that the hand you cuffed was real. You have hear rumors about younger mice and you know what the BO is really about. So the third choice becomes the only one left and must be the right one. Somehow she shrink.

Maybe she was just hiding a key... somewhere.

[sstimson]

Then Play Gin

"Aniki...  This woman isn't gonna talk."

"talk" can also be "confess," "spill the beans," etc.

SO it means she was going to reveal how she escaped the BO, or at least that's what I think...

You mean to tell me that Gin who is smart, can not look at the unbroken, unscratched handcuffs and realize that the olny possible way to escape is either to shrink, or being a robot. If she had used a key, there would have been evidence of such. You mean to tell me that Gin can be that dumb. As I do not think that is possible, It could be one more proof for my theory.

Ironically he would be dumb to think that she shrunk or turned into a robot.

What ever remains no matter how improbable must be the truth. You yourself handcuffed Sherry and then locked the door. I believe you would check Sherry so you would know she has the 'poison'. You expect her to take the poison. When you come back, she is gone but everything else is still there.

So what are the possiblities for how she got out of the handcuffs? She might have picked then but there are no scratches and you know she did not has a key. Plus a closer look shows that no key has been used. You are left with three impossible possibilities 1) she teleported out.
But as far as you know Teleporters do not yet exist. 2) She removed her hand. As there is no blood at the scene, you know she did not cut it off. That means that in order for that method to work she would need to remove a hand and then re-screw it on. But as far as you know she is not a robot or has a fake hand. You make sure that the hand you cuffed was real. You have hear rumors about younger mice and you know what the BO is really about. So the third choice becomes the only one left and must be the right one. Somehow she shrink.

Maybe she was just hiding a key... somewhere.

Nice try but an expert should know if a key was used on not. And again on the idea that Gin is not dumb He woud have really searched her good and I am sure if she had a key he would have found it. "She might have picked then but there are no scratches and you know she did not has a key. Plus a closer look shows that no key has been used."

[Conia]

There are lots of possibilities. Maybe Gin never checked the handcuffs, some BO subordinate told him Sherry was gone and that was all. This is not the most probable outcome, but I'm trying to show we got no evidence at all of what Gin did at that moment...