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AICHAN wrote: thanks for your analysis Chekhov^^ that's really interesting,i always thought there was "something"between Gin and Sherry(not necessary romantic),and you gave us proofs that it could be true...
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conia wrote: As most of the AiCon have said, they prefer Ai to be alone rather than with Mitsuhiko..
That's just selfish/unfair. I'm not really a fan of MitsuAi myself, but if he becomes the only option, why not? She deserves happiness too, and Mitsu is a good boy and I'm sure he will grow really smart and kind. Those who say they'd rather see her alone/dead than with him aren't Ai fans, just AiCon fans, sadly.
hmm,i kinda disagree with you,i personally prefer to see Ai"alone" than paired with Mitsuhiko...especially if he becomes the only option...i think Haibara is a character who doesn't need to be paired with someone in the end to be more interesting...of course she deserve hapiness and love,but that's not a reason to pair Haibara with a child just because it's the only choice,as if she was desperate... ::)
I know,Mitsuhiko will grow up and he'll become smart and kind...but for now he's just a child,haibara isn't romantically interested in him now... and i doubt Gosho will write a story about them 10 years later...so all that we can do is imagining them later ::)
i don't see many interesting interactions between them to start to like this couple,that's why i can't imagine them together,even in the futur... :-\
btw,i'm more an Ai fan than a coai fan,that's why i don't want her to be paired with someone just to be like the other girls...
and i don't know many people who'd rather see haibara dead than paired with Mitsu... ???
I am too!  ;D I'm definitely more of an Ai fan than CoAi. But I love ConanAi. Well, really I'm an extreme BO fan and anyone associated heavily with them like the FBI.  ;D I just like the complexity of the organization. But my favorite member is Ai because she's neither villain or hero, but a Dark Knight!  ;D And for the Knight of Darkness to be pared with the Knight of Light, Shinichi, is an amazing story puller. It's one of the most interesting interactions in the series, the lesser cliche of them all.
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xpon wrote: maybe she is just being abuse...

not all rape will indicates Sex Intercourse.

even holding someones butt can act as abuse and sexual harassment.

maybe gin violate her.... but i dont want to believe that AI is not a virgin anymore...

i hope conan will the one that *ehem * *cough* .. i think i 'll sensor my own post here.. he he he
But see I think it's just the thing Gosho will pull to make proclamations that Ai is not worthy of love. "Girls like her kind" are supposedly disgusting creatures... ::)

But yea, it's just how the post sounded to me....at first. :-[
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Akemi~chan wrote: hi
Hi ;D ;D

isn't she Akemi Miyano instead of Mayano?? *Points to Akemi-Chan Avatar*
my last name in real life is MAyano...not many people notice in forums and fansite. they think it's a mispelling but people in rl tend to mistake my name for the characters even tho the kanji is different. and no. the avatar is a biker girl...i'm not spoiling kyuu said i can use it as an avi. i just liked the character design
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soratothamax wrote: Maybe...*gasp* Gin raped Sherry!!!!! :o
I explained in the post after that one why I didn't think that was the case...
soratothamax wrote: Well, I think that although they are in opposite lines of work, somehow Gin had to get the pill weapons, the ones he used to shrink Shinichi. So probably he visited Sherry often to see how the project was running.
And I think that's strange because Sherry doesn't know any of the other members. Why Gin? It's not like he's a scientist. Why would he overlook a science project he wouldn't understand much of anyway?
soratothamax wrote: He might've been an overseer of everyone's work and watched over others to make sure the members did what they were supposed to do. I mean, even with Akemi, you would think they would send a member who wasn't as top-dog to oversee that mission...
He oversaw that mission because he expected Akemi to fail the robbery. He was supposed to eliminate her when that happened. Even though the robbery succeeded he eliminated her anyway because of her connection to Akai.
soratothamax wrote: ... but Gin seems to oversee everyone even the most low-ranking members or members not even in his field. He was even sent to get a CD-Rom program when clearly his line of business has nothing to do with computers.
Gin only went on the Itakura case because Vodka suddenly changed the scheduled meeting time and Gin got suspicious.
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Detective Prince wrote:
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bluekaitou1412 wrote:
Detective Prince wrote: There was this other person here with a fanfiction. Which she needs to update
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soon!!!
Who is this person?
Idk who he's talking about but I can try to guess, This one is Rin-chan Fanfic.
Yep that's the one.
Aww.... I'm so flattered...  ::) Thanks.... I'll try to update soon....

And I have good news, well, next week's the starting of my four-week school holiday and there would be no school days so I'll be updating pretty fast. So maybe my first fanfic would be completed during my school holiday.
xpon wrote: maybe she is just being abuse...

not all rape will indicates Sex Intercourse.

even holding someones butt can act as abuse and sexual harassment.

maybe gin violate her.... but i dont want to believe that AI is not a virgin anymore...

i hope conan will the one that *ehem * *cough* .. i think i 'll sensor my own post here.. he he he
err.... *coughs* *coughs* Yeah, I know what you're talking about....

About Gin and Sherry: Well, I don't know much about the backround of this story but I could see that Gin has some crazy obsession for Sherry. I don't know, but thinking about this makes me feel a chill on my spine. *it kinda creepy if you ask me*

Just hope that Ai's not abuse or anything..... Maybe Gin is just crazy about her but I hope that he did not touch her....

Hey, I got a suggestion: Could we talk about Ai and Conan? To be honest, I am not comfortable discussing about Gin's obsession with Sherry....
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ha ha ha.. yup rin-chan.. and please read mine too will you
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xpon wrote: what a pure and innocent girl are you master........
All my friends keep telling me that.. :-\

soratothamax wrote: Maybe...*gasp* Gin raped Sherry!!!!! :o
I think that's going way too far.

xpon wrote: maybe gin violate her.... but i dont want to believe that AI is not a virgin anymore...

i hope conan will the one that *ehem * *cough* .. i think i 'll sensor my own post here.. he he he
LOL, Conan? Never. And why the hell are we even talking about virginity?!

soratothamax wrote: But see I think it's just the thing Gosho will pull to make proclamations that Ai is not worthy of love. "Girls like her kind" are supposedly disgusting creatures... ::)
I don't get what you mean..

Rin-chan wrote: About Gin and Sherry: Well, I don't know much about the backround of this story but I could see that Gin has some crazy obsession for Sherry. I don't know, but thinking about this makes me feel a chill on my spine. *it kinda creepy if you ask me*

Just hope that Ai's not abuse or anything..... Maybe Gin is just crazy about her but I hope that he did not touch her....

Hey, I got a suggestion: Could we talk about Ai and Conan? To be honest, I am not comfortable discussing about Gin's obsession with Sherry....
Assuming that Gin's sexually obsessed by Sherry just because he's obsessed by killing her? I just don't get why people always assume that if anything had happened between Gin and Sherry in the past, it has to be either rape or lust. For all I know there could have been love between them, but after Sherry "betrayed" Gin, he became obsessed by killing her.
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Girl19 wrote:
xpon wrote: what a pure and innocent girl are you master........
All my friends keep telling me that.. :-\
My innocent and pure lady!

Random. XD
soratothamax wrote: Maybe...*gasp* Gin raped Sherry!!!!! :o
That is a possibility, but I'll personally kill and hang Gosho if that did happen in the past.
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Girl19 wrote: I just don't get why people always assume that if anything had happened between Gin and Sherry in the past, it has to be either rape or lust.
Your Avatar seem a good reason to jump to that conclusion.
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conia wrote: Your Avatar seem a good reason to jump to that conclusion.
The only people who jump to conclusions are the people who don't analyze/think carefully.
Besides, the pic in my avatar proves nothing. It only shows how Gin seems eager to get his revenge on a traitor. The fact that he imagines Sherry naked doesn't mean he's sexually obsessed by her.

bluekaitou1412 wrote: My innocent and pure lady!

Random. XD
Aww! :-* But beware, I can be a bad girl too. :P
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
soratothamax wrote: Well, I think that although they are in opposite lines of work, somehow Gin had to get the pill weapons, the ones he used to shrink Shinichi. So probably he visited Sherry often to see how the project was running.
And I think that's strange because Sherry doesn't know any of the other members. Why Gin? It's not like he's a scientist. Why would he overlook a science project he wouldn't understand much of anyway?
Chekhov. Guess what. YOU ARE WRONG. Sherry knew her parents which were BO members. She knows Pisco, or at least he knows her ( possible too much time pasted and she did not keep up.)
I find it funny You say "because Sherry doesn't know any of the other members." She might know them all. Including who the BOSS is. Her "BO sixth sense" goes off too much for her to know very few members. By the way I know she knows Vermouth by the way she acts whenever Vermouth is near.
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
soratothamax wrote: He might've been an overseer of everyone's work and watched over others to make sure the members did what they were supposed to do. I mean, even with Akemi, you would think they would send a member who wasn't as top-dog to oversee that mission...
He oversaw that mission because he expected Akemi to fail the robbery. He was supposed to eliminate her when that happened. Even though the robbery succeeded he eliminated her anyway because of her connection to Akai.
soratothamax wrote: ... but Gin seems to oversee everyone even the most low-ranking members or members not even in his field. He was even sent to get a CD-Rom program when clearly his line of business has nothing to do with computers.
Gin only went on the Itakura case because Vodka suddenly changed the scheduled meeting time and Gin got suspicious.
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conia wrote: Your Avatar seem a good reason to jump to that conclusion.
The only people who jump to conclusions are the people who don't analyze/think carefully.
Besides, the pic in my avatar proves nothing. It only shows how Gin seems eager to get his revenge on a traitor. The fact that he imagines Sherry naked doesn't mean he's sexually obsessed by her.
While I agree Gin might not be 'sexually obsessed' with Sherry, I must disagree about him being eager to get 'the traitor'.  It all goes back to where he could have shot her dead and shot at her basically nicking her.
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sstimson wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: And I think that's strange because Sherry doesn't know any of the other members. Why Gin? It's not like he's a scientist. Why would he overlook a science project he wouldn't understand much of anyway?
Chekhov. Guess what. YOU ARE WRONG. Sherry knew her parents which were BO members. She knows Pisco, or at least he knows her ( possible too much time pasted and she did not keep up.)
I find it funny You say "because Sherry doesn't know any of the other members." She might know them all. Including who the BOSS is. Her "BO sixth sense" goes off too much for her to know very few members. By the way I know she knows Vermouth by the way she acts whenever Vermouth is near.
*headesk* This is the kind of situation where you might want to go back to the original post where I much more carefully laid out how much Shiho knows about the other B.O. members. Obviously she knows some of them, like her parents, Gin and Vodka, and Rye. What I'm talking about here is B.O. agents not in the science arena. Shiho may have heard of their codenames, but she hasn't met many of them in person.
Here was the original quote I made about them...
Shiho hardly knew most of the other agents in non-science related positions. She hadn't met Pisco since she was a baby, she had only heard of Korn and Chianti, and hadn't heard of Kir. Bourbon is new and thus doesn't count. Conan never asked about Tequila. Vermouth likely had a connection with Shiho's parents because of her apparent aging wonkiness despite not being in science. Gin is on the business/assassination side of things, so it is anomalous how well he seems to know her given how she doesn't know much about anyone else outside of the research branch.
sstimson wrote: While I agree Gin might not be 'sexually obsessed' with Sherry, I must disagree about him being eager to get 'the traitor'.  It all goes back to where he could have shot her dead and shot at her basically nicking her.
The reason Gin was shooting her and missing her vitals was that he was torturing her to get her to explain how she escaped from the chamber. We know this was his goal, and he was not just being a sadistic b*st*rd because after Gin shot her a few times, Vodka said something like "Bro, I don't this woman is going to talk." I would link the page, but the manga translation posted online isn't very good for this chapter. As a minor side note, except for the face shot, Gin definitely wasn't nicking her in the manga. That was changed to make the anime more acceptable.
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
sstimson wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: And I think that's strange because Sherry doesn't know any of the other members. Why Gin? It's not like he's a scientist. Why would he overlook a science project he wouldn't understand much of anyway?
Chekhov. Guess what. YOU ARE WRONG. Sherry knew her parents which were BO members. She knows Pisco, or at least he knows her ( possible too much time pasted and she did not keep up.)
I find it funny You say "because Sherry doesn't know any of the other members." She might know them all. Including who the BOSS is. Her "BO sixth sense" goes off too much for her to know very few members. By the way I know she knows Vermouth by the way she acts whenever Vermouth is near.
*headesk* This is the kind of situation where you might want to go back to the original post where I much more carefully laid out how much Shiho knows about the other B.O. members. Obviously she knows some of them, like her parents, Gin and Vodka, and Rye. What I'm talking about here is that for B.O. agents not in the science arena. Shiho may have heard of their codenames, but she hasn't met many of them in person.
Here was the original quote I made about them...
Shiho hardly knew most of the other agents in non-science related positions. She hadn't met Pisco since she was a baby, she had only heard of Korn and Chianti, and hadn't heard of Kir. Bourbon is new and thus doesn't count. Conan never asked about Tequila. Vermouth likely had a connection with Shiho's parents because of her apparent aging wonkiness despite not being in science. Gin is on the business/assassination side of things, so it is anomalous how well he seems to know her given how she doesn't know much about anyone else outside of the research branch.
sstimson wrote: While I agree Gin might not be 'sexually obsessed' with Sherry, I must disagree about him being eager to get 'the traitor'.  It all goes back to where he could have shot her dead and shot at her basically nicking her.
The reason Gin was shooting her and missing her vitals was that he was torturing her to get her to explain how she escaped from the chamber. We know this was his goal, and he was not just being a sadistic b*st*rd because after Gin shot her a few times, Vodka said something like "Bro, I don't this woman is going to talk." I would link the page, but the manga translation posted online isn't very good for this chapter. As a minor side note, except for the face shot, Gin definitely wasn't nicking her in the manga. That was changed to make the anime more acceptable.
You are certainly correct about him missing her intentionally the shooting scene, but I felt like he was doing it more to torture her than anything else. He knew she wasn't afraid of death and that she loathed the Org from the bottom of her heart, so I think he was more doing it to get his rocks off than anything else.
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I still don't get why the BO wants her dead so much. I mean to send three of his best members to kill off this one girl. Is she that much of a threat?
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or are they curious about who is protecting her and wondering if he's a threat :o
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Detective Prince wrote: I still don't get why the BO wants her dead so much. I mean to send three of his best members to kill off this one girl. Is she that much of a threat?
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or are they curious about who is protecting her and wondering if he's a threat :o
Anyone who knows about the BO and isn't in the BO needs to be eliminated. Someone who was a member even more some than someone who simply worked with them (though they need to be killed also; the guy from Mantendo, the professor dude, the lawyer, Itakura, etc;).
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