Ai + Conan

[xGinx]

There was this other person here with a fanfiction. Which she needs to update

Spoiler:

soon!!!

Who is this person?

Idk who he's talking about but I can try to guess, This one is Rin-chan Fanfic.

[Detective Prince]

There was this other person here with a fanfiction. Which she needs to update

Spoiler:

soon!!!

Who is this person?

Idk who he's talking about but I can try to guess, This one is Rin-chan Fanfic.

Yep that's the one.

[xGinx]

I'm god LOL

she wrote only until Chapter 9 but It's an awesome Fanfic, Highly recomended if you're an AiCon Fan or you juts love DC in General like me

[ProfParanoia]

it could be

Spoiler:

French Kiss

or

Spoiler:

sleep a whole night in the same bed holding hands

or

Spoiler:

gave a little massage

hmmm...hard choice...
so i vote for all of them!!!!!

Do it like North by Northwest, just cut to a train going into a tunnel

[Abs.]

Public service announcement:  Alright.  There is a whole separate board for fanfic discussions.  This is not it.

[xpon]

Public service announcement:  Alright.  There is a whole separate board for fanfic discussions.  This is not it.

okay.. ijust asking for another CoxAi idea......

[soratothamax]

Thanks thanks! 

[xGinx]

Thanks thanks! 

[Akemi~chan]

hi

[soratothamax]

When I saw this thread, I just knew where to start posting!  Nice to meet you everyone!
I'm so happy to see that there're many AixConan fans out there!  At first, I thought that this pairing wouldn't have many supporters because it's not "canon" (in quotation because the story hasn't ended yet... there's still hope ).

I just started reading Detective Conan again a few months ago, and found this site while downloading the manga.  I started reading Conan over 10 years ago.  I bought and read every volume as it came out.  After moving to the US, I stopped reading manga until last year, but I'm catching up again! 
Back then, I was a ShinxRan fan.  Ran had all the characteristics that made her seem perfect, especially when paired with Shinichi.  And then Ai was introduced.  She became my favorite character instantly.  But I was still supporting ShinxRan, because my 8-years-old self thought childhood friends getting together was perfect.  Whatever the manga stated, that was it.  Well, I didn't question much then.
Now, when I read everything over again, I can really enjoy it in a different ways.  Instead of just reading it, I can now understand what's going on lol.  When I got to the part where Ai was introduced again, I started to see her in different light.  Then she started to like Conan, I just forgot about ShinxRan and became her supporter. 

I want to try reading this whole thread, but the 220 pages look pretty intimidating...  it'll take a while. xD

I would PM you kind of the gist of all 220 pages (which I have read btw because I'm weird like that and am interested in what everyone has to say) if you want me to.

Yea, but your experience was kind of mine. I just accepted ShinRan just because when I first got into DC. But then I re-watched everything, and read the new manga chapters from Haibara on-wards. At first, I didn't like the idea of there being a girl shrinking like Conan...but when I watched the first episode with her, I was immediately intrigued and inspired by her mysterious and engaging character. I especially found the complicated development between Conan and Ai interesting as the series progressed.....I wish they would show more, but they keep sliding these general cases when I want to see something happen!

But yea, welcome aboard I'm late!  :P

[soratothamax]

it's canon.
it's just invisible.

if it's invisible, then how can you see it? 

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL LOL LOL

I just had to laugh at this.....

but yea *ahem* AixCo ftw

[xGinx]

hi

Hi

isn't she Akemi Miyano instead of Mayano?? *Points to Akemi-Chan Avatar*

[soratothamax]

Do you mind giving me an example of the above post of Ran that doesn't match the most posible ending for every character mentioned? (Besides the Ai and Gin stuff)

I'll raise you on the issue of Shiho potentially having had some sort of relationship with Gin in the past.  Before I begin though, please for my sanity's sake, do not take this as me expressing support of Shiho/Gin; I think the pairing is pretty creepy, except maybe as an comedy crack pairing. My only goal here is to provide support that there may be canon evidence of some sort of relationship between them. (Note that I never said it was a happy or healthy relationship.)

Gin clearly knows Shiho's personality very well as he can anticipate her movements and decisions despite having rather different lines of work in the Organization. Shiho hardly knew most of the other agents in non-science related positions. She hadn't met Pisco since she was a baby, she had only heard of Korn and Chianti, and hadn't heard of Kir. Bourbon is new and thus doesn't count. Conan never asked about Tequila. Vermouth likely had a connection with Shiho's parents because of her apparent aging wonkiness despite not being in science. Gin is on the business/assassination side of things, so it is anomalous how well he seems to know her given how she doesn't know much about anyone else outside of the research branch. They clearly have a connection outside of their professions to account for knowing each other so well. They must have spent lots of time together if Gin can identify her from a single hair with conviction.

So what kind of relationship did Shiho and Gin have? There are various possible options, like childhood friends (age difference could be an issue), mutual relationship/or one sided attraction/or abuse (Age difference again is an issue as is the fact Shiho was in America until recently), mentor-mentee, etc. I didn't really think the romantic mutual relationship/or one sided attraction/or abuse option was a viable choice until I saw good retranslation of the first chapter of the Reunion with the Black Org (the Pisco case) (file 24-7 or 238, ep 176) where the translator pointed out the innuendo Gin was using. (The retranslation was by kentaru btw).
The retranslated monologue of Gin's in the dream is as follows:

"This is the end of your wanton sporting... Now, wake up from your dream... Shouldn't we celebrate our reunion with your favorite color scarlet... right, Sherry?"

The translator also had a notes page from which I will quote a relevant section:

The betrayal theme:
In Ai's dream, Gin says Sherry's favorite color is scarlet and says "her wanton sporting is over" - what does he mean by that? A scarlet woman is an immoral woman, a prostitute. Wanton sporting is the same type of insult. He accuses her, in her dreams, of being sexually unrestrained. A correct translation of those terms is vital to understand what kind of character Gin is. Not only does he call her a betrayer, he also implied (several times) they had a relationship. I'm sure most readers wonder why he thinks of her nekkid and recognizes a strand of her hair. XD

Now, add this information to Gin's description of their meeting as a "reunion", him thinking of her in the nude, and Haibara yelling "Don't touch me!" when Ayumi places her hand on Haibara's arm, snapping her out remembering her dream. Furthermore, when the two of them meet on the rooftop of the Hyde City Hotel, there are more suggestive exchanges. Gin purposefully chose not to do his job in the most efficient fashion- shooting Shiho in the chimney- but instead chose to make a special exception for her by waiting out for her on the snowy rooftop because killing her there would be, paraphrasing, more beautiful. She even gets into the act by thanking him, albeit sarcastically, for "waiting for her in the cold"; Shiho seems to purposefully be alluding to the stereotypic scenario of one lover waiting for another in poor climate. Gin also makes a comment about her disguise, the uniform and the glasses, being unsuitable for her, which carries an implication that he thinks there is some other outfit which would be more suitable. I'll leave that up to your imaginations. I'm not going to go into Gin getting all poetic about blood, snow, death flowers blooming, and other stuff.

In conclusion, I think there is significant evidence that there was something going on between them because I don't think Gin would, even though it's a dream, phrase things like that for the heck of it. The rooftop exchange seems to corroborate with Gin's dream personality. Whatever kind of relationship they did have, it couldn't have been healthy since Gin was involved in it.
And since this was a long post, let me reiterate again this I'm not supporting ShihoxGin, I'm only providing evidence that there was something going on between them.

Maybe...*gasp* Gin raped Sherry!!!!!

Well, I think that although they are in opposite lines of work, somehow Gin had to get the pill weapons, the ones he used to shrink Shinichi. So probably he visited Sherry often to see how the project was running. He might've been an overseer of everyone's work and watched over others to make sure the members did what they were supposed to do. I mean, even with Akemi, you would think they would send a member who wasn't as top-dog to oversee that mission, but Gin seems to oversee everyone even the most low-ranking members or members not even in his field. He was even sent to get a CD-Rom program when clearly his line of business has nothing to do with computers.

[Conia]

Do you mind giving me an example of the above post of Ran that doesn't match the most posible ending for every character mentioned? (Besides the Ai and Gin stuff)

I'll raise you on the issue of Shiho potentially having had some sort of relationship with Gin in the past.  Before I begin though, please for my sanity's sake, do not take this as me expressing support of Shiho/Gin; I think the pairing is pretty creepy, except maybe as an comedy crack pairing. My only goal here is to provide support that there may be canon evidence of some sort of relationship between them. (Note that I never said it was a happy or healthy relationship.)

Gin clearly knows Shiho's personality very well as he can anticipate her movements and decisions despite having rather different lines of work in the Organization. Shiho hardly knew most of the other agents in non-science related positions. She hadn't met Pisco since she was a baby, she had only heard of Korn and Chianti, and hadn't heard of Kir. Bourbon is new and thus doesn't count. Conan never asked about Tequila. Vermouth likely had a connection with Shiho's parents because of her apparent aging wonkiness despite not being in science. Gin is on the business/assassination side of things, so it is anomalous how well he seems to know her given how she doesn't know much about anyone else outside of the research branch. They clearly have a connection outside of their professions to account for knowing each other so well. They must have spent lots of time together if Gin can identify her from a single hair with conviction.

So what kind of relationship did Shiho and Gin have? There are various possible options, like childhood friends (age difference could be an issue), mutual relationship/or one sided attraction/or abuse (Age difference again is an issue as is the fact Shiho was in America until recently), mentor-mentee, etc. I didn't really think the romantic mutual relationship/or one sided attraction/or abuse option was a viable choice until I saw good retranslation of the first chapter of the Reunion with the Black Org (the Pisco case) (file 24-7 or 238, ep 176) where the translator pointed out the innuendo Gin was using. (The retranslation was by kentaru btw).
The retranslated monologue of Gin's in the dream is as follows:

"This is the end of your wanton sporting... Now, wake up from your dream... Shouldn't we celebrate our reunion with your favorite color scarlet... right, Sherry?"

The translator also had a notes page from which I will quote a relevant section:

The betrayal theme:
In Ai's dream, Gin says Sherry's favorite color is scarlet and says "her wanton sporting is over" - what does he mean by that? A scarlet woman is an immoral woman, a prostitute. Wanton sporting is the same type of insult. He accuses her, in her dreams, of being sexually unrestrained. A correct translation of those terms is vital to understand what kind of character Gin is. Not only does he call her a betrayer, he also implied (several times) they had a relationship. I'm sure most readers wonder why he thinks of her nekkid and recognizes a strand of her hair. XD

Now, add this information to Gin's description of their meeting as a "reunion", him thinking of her in the nude, and Haibara yelling "Don't touch me!" when Ayumi places her hand on Haibara's arm, snapping her out remembering her dream. Furthermore, when the two of them meet on the rooftop of the Hyde City Hotel, there are more suggestive exchanges. Gin purposefully chose not to do his job in the most efficient fashion- shooting Shiho in the chimney- but instead chose to make a special exception for her by waiting out for her on the snowy rooftop because killing her there would be, paraphrasing, more beautiful. She even gets into the act by thanking him, albeit sarcastically, for "waiting for her in the cold"; Shiho seems to purposefully be alluding to the stereotypic scenario of one lover waiting for another in poor climate. Gin also makes a comment about her disguise, the uniform and the glasses, being unsuitable for her, which carries an implication that he thinks there is some other outfit which would be more suitable. I'll leave that up to your imaginations. I'm not going to go into Gin getting all poetic about blood, snow, death flowers blooming, and other stuff.

In conclusion, I think there is significant evidence that there was something going on between them because I don't think Gin would, even though it's a dream, phrase things like that for the heck of it. The rooftop exchange seems to corroborate with Gin's dream personality. Whatever kind of relationship they did have, it couldn't have been healthy since Gin was involved in it.
And since this was a long post, let me reiterate again this I'm not supporting ShihoxGin, I'm only providing evidence that there was something going on between them.

Maybe...*gasp* Gin raped Sherry!!!!!

Well, I think that although they are in opposite lines of work, somehow Gin had to get the pill weapons, the ones he used to shrink Shinichi. So probably he visited Sherry often to see how the project was running. He might've been an overseer of everyone's work and watched over others to make sure the members did what they were supposed to do. I mean, even with Akemi, you would think they would send a member who wasn't as top-dog to oversee that mission, but Gin seems to oversee everyone even the most low-ranking members or members not even in his field. He was even sent to get a CD-Rom program when clearly his line of business has nothing to do with computers.

But Haibara doesn't show traces of being raped, so for me the possibility of that is VERY low.

[xpon]

maybe she is just being abuse...

not all rape will indicates Sex Intercourse.

even holding someones butt can act as abuse and sexual harassment.

maybe gin violate her.... but i dont want to believe that AI is not a virgin anymore...

i hope conan will the one that *ehem * *cough* .. i think i 'll sensor my own post here.. he he he