Translation of gin's private

[Akonyl]

I didn't even mention Shinichi. And I don't recall him imagining women naked anyway.

He imaged Ran without clothes when Kid removed the "RAN" costume and made his statement

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. Though other examples I am not sure of.
One thing has been bothering me for a while if Gin only want to kill Ai, then why did he basicly shoot around her. He shoot four shots and I believe if he had really wanted to he could have easiely kill Sherry, and yet all he did was wound her. That fact kinda hints at a relationship.

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it could also hint at Gin being a sadist who enjoys making people suffer before he kills them, I would think if he'd had a relationship with her he'd just kill her cleanly instead.

[Eve]

I didn't even mention Shinichi. And I don't recall him imagining women naked anyway.

He imaged Ran without clothes when Kid removed the "RAN" costume and made his statement

Spoiler:

.

. Though other examples I am not sure of.
One thing has been bothering me for a while if Gin only want to kill Ai, then why did he basicly shoot around her. He shoot four shots and I believe if he had really wanted to he could have easiely kill Sherry, and yet all he did was wound her. That fact kinda hints at a relationship.

Spoiler:

it could also hint at Gin being a sadist who enjoys making people suffer before he kills them, I would think if he'd had a relationship with her he'd just kill her cleanly instead.

YES! Gin is ドS!

[Nyarl]

I didn't even mention Shinichi. And I don't recall him imagining women naked anyway.

He imaged Ran without clothes when Kid removed the "RAN" costume and made his statement

Spoiler:

.

. Though other examples I am not sure of.
One thing has been bothering me for a while if Gin only want to kill Ai, then why did he basicly shoot around her. He shoot four shots and I believe if he had really wanted to he could have easiely kill Sherry, and yet all he did was wound her. That fact kinda hints at a relationship.

Spoiler:

Gin didn't just want to kill her, he wanted to torture her into revealing how she escaped before.

[DarkStar]

I didn't even mention Shinichi. And I don't recall him imagining women naked anyway.

He imaged Ran without clothes when Kid removed the "RAN" costume and made his statement

Spoiler:

.

. Though other examples I am not sure of.
One thing has been bothering me for a while if Gin only want to kill Ai, then why did he basicly shoot around her. He shoot four shots and I believe if he had really wanted to he could have easiely kill Sherry, and yet all he did was wound her. That fact kinda hints at a relationship.

Spoiler:

That's what a buddy of me and I discussed too.
Gin said he wanted to find out about her escape. But somehow I have sometimes the feeling he does not want to kill her. And why did he not want to wait until Pisco tells him the thing he found out? Either Aoyama made a mistake or there is more behind Gin's motives than we think.

[Girl19]

I didn't even mention Shinichi. And I don't recall him imagining women naked anyway.

He imaged Ran without clothes when Kid removed the "RAN" costume and made his statement

Spoiler:

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Hehe thanks, how could I forget about that one! lol
Well anyways, he had already seen her naked before that..

[robi]

Yes its real i have this book.
Its a Super Digest Book.
I´ve all 4 of them in japanese

[TheBlind]

Thanks "96383" for the translation. xD
Finally some proof that Gin IS really obsessed with Sherry. (jk)

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I know it's weird, but I have a thing for this couple.. I mean GinXSherry.
Seriously, he had wattery-eyes when he was going to kill her on that roof; or so have I imagined.

me too i kinda like this couple in a way,even if there is no proof that there was something between them(but i do think there was something between gin and sherry,afterall,he can anticipate all of her moves and recognize her hair! it's weird no?)

seeing sherry naked doesn't shock me,aoyama like drawing sexy women (almost) naked(ran,sato...)!what a perv

Indeed, plus that scene where Ai said "Please don't touch me" or something like that when she was remembering Gin. It's true that there are many hints that something might've happened between them.. It's up to Gosho to explain that. And yes, he likes drawing naked women but he's still nothing compared to other mangakas.. lol We even had to wait for 600+ files just to see a "real" kiss.

Actually there aren't many hints that anything happened at all between Gin and Shiho. The only valid one is him picturing her naked which a can be shown to have many different possibilities. The rest of the hints you are most likely referring too are events taken out of context just like the line you generally quoted.

One thing has been bothering me for a while if Gin only want to kill Ai, then why did he basicly shoot around her. He shoot four shots and I believe if he had really wanted to he could have easiely kill Sherry, and yet all he did was wound her. That fact kinda hints at a relationship.

, That's a stretch.
Reason he didn't kill her was a combination of humiliation and curiosity. I has been alluded that Gin & Vodka where the ones that placed her in the gas chamber so naturally Gin takes her escape as a personal failure and it's safe to say Gin doesn't fail much. Also Gin has shown to be a natural Detective and like all Detectives they want to know the answer to the puzzle. So it's more likely that he shot around her because he wanted to see her suffer and have his answer but after Vodka pointed out that neither was happening he was ready for the killing shot. Also, Gin got "excited" (in the same manner he gets excited when he thinks about Shiho) when he found out a man was helping Shiho. So unless you are saying Gin is bi sexual for random men, I think it's more likely that he was glad because he got a piece of the answer as to how she escaped(also, this one's a bit of a stretch but he could be thinking Akai is involved).

That's what a buddy of me and I discussed too.
Gin said he wanted to find out about her escape. But somehow I have sometimes the feeling he does not want to kill her. And why did he not want to wait until Pisco tells him the thing he found out? Either Aoyama made a mistake or there is more behind Gin's motives than we think.

Gin received an order from the Boss to kill another member. With this in mind Gin probably knew he had to be quick and cautious. He most likely assumed that Pisco was just trying to lie his way out and with each word he was buying himself time which gave Pisco the advantage and we all know Gin always likes to have the advantage. So he quickly killed him because in Gin's mind, the scenario could of ended with Pisco using a lie to distract him and take a shot at him.

Feels like the old days when I first joined this place  ;D.

[Jd-]

This topic is still going? Wow, nice job, guys.

I'm gonna move it to General, since it's definitely more of a--if you will--general discussion now.

[Girl19]

Indeed, plus that scene where Ai said "Please don't touch me" or something like that when she was remembering Gin. It's true that there are many hints that something might've happened between them.. It's up to Gosho to explain that. And yes, he likes drawing naked women but he's still nothing compared to other mangakas.. lol We even had to wait for 600+ files just to see a "real" kiss.

Actually there aren't many hints that anything happened at all between Gin and Shiho. The only valid one is him picturing her naked which a can be shown to have many different possibilities. The rest of the hints you are most likely referring too are events taken out of context just like the line you generally quoted.

The fact that he imagined her naked, the fact that he recognized her hair just from seeing/touching it, the fact that Ai seems to be extremely afraid of Gin (hence the sentence I quoted"), the fact that Gin kinda hesitated before killing Shiho, even the few "enigmatic" sentences they said to each other on the roof.. I believe all these facts do hint that there was something between the two of them. That "something" doesn't necessarily have to be romantic or sexual.

One thing has been bothering me for a while if Gin only want to kill Ai, then why did he basicly shoot around her. He shoot four shots and I believe if he had really wanted to he could have easiely kill Sherry, and yet all he did was wound her. That fact kinda hints at a relationship.

, That's a stretch.
Reason he didn't kill her was a combination of humiliation and curiosity. I has been alluded that Gin & Vodka where the ones that placed her in the gas chamber so naturally Gin takes her escape as a personal failure and it's safe to say Gin doesn't fail much. Also Gin has shown to be a natural Detective and like all Detectives they want to know the answer to the puzzle. So it's more likely that he shot around her because he wanted to see her suffer and have his answer but after Vodka pointed out that neither was happening he was ready for the killing shot. Also, Gin got "excited" (in the same manner he gets excited when he thinks about Shiho) when he found out a man was helping Shiho. So unless you are saying Gin is bi sexual for random men, I think it's more likely that he was glad because he got a piece of the answer as to how she escaped(also, this one's a bit of a stretch but he could be thinking Akai is involved).

Just wanted to point out that this wasn't my quote. I think you should correct it because it was sstimson's message HERE.

[soratothamax]

Indeed, plus that scene where Ai said "Please don't touch me" or something like that when she was remembering Gin. It's true that there are many hints that something might've happened between them.. It's up to Gosho to explain that. And yes, he likes drawing naked women but he's still nothing compared to other mangakas.. lol We even had to wait for 600+ files just to see a "real" kiss.

Actually there aren't many hints that anything happened at all between Gin and Shiho. The only valid one is him picturing her naked which a can be shown to have many different possibilities. The rest of the hints you are most likely referring too are events taken out of context just like the line you generally quoted.

The fact that he imagined her naked, the fact that he recognized her hair just from seeing/touching it, the fact that Ai seems to be extremely afraid of Gin (hence the sentence I quoted"), the fact that Gin kinda hesitated before killing Shiho, even the few "enigmatic" sentences they said to each other on the roof.. I believe all these facts do hint that there was something between the two of them. That "something" doesn't necessarily have to be romantic or sexual.

One thing has been bothering me for a while if Gin only want to kill Ai, then why did he basicly shoot around her. He shoot four shots and I believe if he had really wanted to he could have easiely kill Sherry, and yet all he did was wound her. That fact kinda hints at a relationship.

, That's a stretch.
Reason he didn't kill her was a combination of humiliation and curiosity. I has been alluded that Gin & Vodka where the ones that placed her in the gas chamber so naturally Gin takes her escape as a personal failure and it's safe to say Gin doesn't fail much. Also Gin has shown to be a natural Detective and like all Detectives they want to know the answer to the puzzle. So it's more likely that he shot around her because he wanted to see her suffer and have his answer but after Vodka pointed out that neither was happening he was ready for the killing shot. Also, Gin got "excited" (in the same manner he gets excited when he thinks about Shiho) when he found out a man was helping Shiho. So unless you are saying Gin is bi sexual for random men, I think it's more likely that he was glad because he got a piece of the answer as to how she escaped(also, this one's a bit of a stretch but he could be thinking Akai is involved).

Just wanted to point out that this wasn't my quote. I think you should correct it because it was sstimson's message HERE.

Yea, Girl 19, I believe something is definitely going on. Shiho looked scared at first, but when talking to him I saw a little smirk cross her face before Gin took the second shot. And Gin seemed to know her very well.

Well they said she was a very important member in the org, and she got Shuu his position too. Remember? He became acquainted with Shiho and that's how he was able to work his way up the BO's hierarchy. His girlfriend wasn't very high in the BO, who he was intially trying to use to get into the BO, but he ended up become close with Shiho who got him his positions...so obviously, Shiho probably has some ties in high places. She was high enough to get a nickname, which only important or high members in the BO have them.....So Shiho probably knows a lot of dirt on Gin that she's not blabbing. And everytime Conan tries to ask her about her time in the BO she changes the subject.

Another thing. How come every time one person says they like a pairing, some people assume they mean "romantically?" Like when I say I like Ai/Con (romantically OR NOT), they assume that means I have proof they are going to be together romantically. That happens all the time. I don't care about proof or romance, I just like them in the same episode together. Same with this circumstance. Cuz I agree with girl 19 about the GinXSherry thing. I like their pairing second to AixCon. It always fascinates me. But pairing doesn't necessarily mean romantic. I get that all the time. Just had to vent a little about that. 

Another I like KaitouxShinichi, but that's OT....

[ranger]

Blind, I really like your post.

especially the reference about that "other man" that was helping Shiho.  I like your assumption that he might be thinking it was Akai, I never thought of that!

There is definetely some sort of relationship, whether romantic or not, between shiho and gin.  When conan was going to ask her something when they were in the car, Haibara quickly changed the subject.

It's something i hope to see unravalled

[Eve]

Indeed, plus that scene where Ai said "Please don't touch me" or something like that when she was remembering Gin. It's true that there are many hints that something might've happened between them.. It's up to Gosho to explain that. And yes, he likes drawing naked women but he's still nothing compared to other mangakas.. lol We even had to wait for 600+ files just to see a "real" kiss.

Actually there aren't many hints that anything happened at all between Gin and Shiho. The only valid one is him picturing her naked which a can be shown to have many different possibilities. The rest of the hints you are most likely referring too are events taken out of context just like the line you generally quoted.

The fact that he imagined her naked, the fact that he recognized her hair just from seeing/touching it, the fact that Ai seems to be extremely afraid of Gin (hence the sentence I quoted"), the fact that Gin kinda hesitated before killing Shiho, even the few "enigmatic" sentences they said to each other on the roof.. I believe all these facts do hint that there was something between the two of them. That "something" doesn't necessarily have to be romantic or sexual.

One thing has been bothering me for a while if Gin only want to kill Ai, then why did he basicly shoot around her. He shoot four shots and I believe if he had really wanted to he could have easiely kill Sherry, and yet all he did was wound her. That fact kinda hints at a relationship.

, That's a stretch.
Reason he didn't kill her was a combination of humiliation and curiosity. I has been alluded that Gin & Vodka where the ones that placed her in the gas chamber so naturally Gin takes her escape as a personal failure and it's safe to say Gin doesn't fail much. Also Gin has shown to be a natural Detective and like all Detectives they want to know the answer to the puzzle. So it's more likely that he shot around her because he wanted to see her suffer and have his answer but after Vodka pointed out that neither was happening he was ready for the killing shot. Also, Gin got "excited" (in the same manner he gets excited when he thinks about Shiho) when he found out a man was helping Shiho. So unless you are saying Gin is bi sexual for random men, I think it's more likely that he was glad because he got a piece of the answer as to how she escaped(also, this one's a bit of a stretch but he could be thinking Akai is involved).

Just wanted to point out that this wasn't my quote. I think you should correct it because it was sstimson's message HERE.

Yea, Girl 19, I believe something is definitely going on. Shiho looked scared at first, but when talking to him I saw a little smirk cross her face before Gin took the second shot. And Gin seemed to know her very well.

Well they said she was a very important member in the org, and she got Shuu his position too. Remember? He became acquainted with Shiho and that's how he was able to work his way up the BO's hierarchy. His girlfriend wasn't very high in the BO, who he was intially trying to use to get into the BO, but he ended up become close with Shiho who got him his positions...so obviously, Shiho probably has some ties in high places. She was high enough to get a nickname, which only important or high members in the BO have them.....So Shiho probably knows a lot of dirt on Gin that she's not blabbing. And everytime Conan tries to ask her about her time in the BO she changes the subject.

Another thing. How come every time one person says they like a pairing, some people assume they mean "romantically?" Like when I say I like Ai/Con (romantically OR NOT), they assume that means I have proof they are going to be together romantically. That happens all the time. I don't care about proof or romance, I just like them in the same episode together. Same with this circumstance. Cuz I agree with girl 19 about the GinXSherry thing. I like their pairing second to AixCon. It always fascinates me. But pairing doesn't necessarily mean romantic. I get that all the time. Just had to vent a little about that. 

Another I like KaitouxShinichi, but that's OT....

It's like we think a like  8)

[Kor]

Gin doesn't have a thing for Ai. He has for Shuichi though 

Vodka: Aniki, why do you hate Akai Shuichi so much?
Gin: After he betrayed the organization....he never called me back.

(that's a joke...)

[Abs.]

Vodka: Aniki, why do you hate Akai Shuichi so much?
Gin: After he betrayed the organization....he never called me back.

You just made my day.

[TheBlind]

Indeed, plus that scene where Ai said "Please don't touch me" or something like that when she was remembering Gin. It's true that there are many hints that something might've happened between them.. It's up to Gosho to explain that. And yes, he likes drawing naked women but he's still nothing compared to other mangakas.. lol We even had to wait for 600+ files just to see a "real" kiss.

Actually there aren't many hints that anything happened at all between Gin and Shiho. The only valid one is him picturing her naked which a can be shown to have many different possibilities. The rest of the hints you are most likely referring too are events taken out of context just like the line you generally quoted.

The fact that he imagined her naked, the fact that he recognized her hair just from seeing/touching it, the fact that Ai seems to be extremely afraid of Gin (hence the sentence I quoted"), the fact that Gin kinda hesitated before killing Shiho, even the few "enigmatic" sentences they said to each other on the roof.. I believe all these facts do hint that there was something between the two of them. That "something" doesn't necessarily have to be romantic or sexual.

You have a contradiction here. Guess I'll start in order,

Gin imagining Shiho naked - can be interpreted in many different ways so it's not a strong reason but in reality is the valid reason in the "ShihoxGin" argument. I think I posted a few of those explanations in a few similar topics around here.

The hair- As cool as it would seem for Gin to be a magical hair detector he really used logic to assume it was Shiho's. Shiho has a distinct hair color, which means people in Japan with that same type of hair are already low. Two, there were footprints around his car which even surprised him, which must mean that it isn't normal for people to surround his car. Finally, a listening device was found in the car and to Gin, this all points to the escaped Shiho. You have to remember that Gin most likely searched his car because he found a hair strand that wasn't his or Vodka's, when he found the device is when he concluded that no doubt it was Shiho's hair.

Hesitation- I already covered this one but to add to it. Gin practically says it himself, he could of just killed Shiho in the chimney but that wouldn't of satisfied him. He wanted her to suffer for giving him a failure and he wanted to know the answer to the puzzle.

The Fear- This one is the one that bothers me the most. Seems like people always bring this one up but ignore something really basic. Shiho only exhibits this fear when a B.O. member or Gin specifically is around when she's with someone else. Even in her dream where she expressed this fear she was accompanied by the DBs. She doesn't show this fear when she's alone facing a B.O. member(Gin) as she showed on the rooftop. Reason for this is Shiho doesn't fear death, what she really fears is feeling the same pain of Akemi being killed. Akemi was all she had when she was Shiho and most likely the only thing she had attachment to and Gin took that away. So when she became Haibara she was cold towards the cast because she didn't want any attachments the B.O. could take away but they broke through her shell anyway. After this she contemplated of leaving because in her mind she failed and was setting herself up to be hurt again, which explains the nightmares where Gin takes everything from her again. It also explains the "Please don't touch me line". I told you before you where generalizing it, she wasn't thinking of Gin when she said it, she was directly referring to Ayumi. She wanted Ayumi to let go of her because she didn't want anything to do with her or any of them, she wanted to run away but they won her over again.

The sentences on the roof-  Now you are just being silly. . That was Gin being Gin and Shiho matching him with her being Shiho(extreme sarcasm, one of her best traits).

P.S.-Thanks for the notice, fixed it.