Ai + Conan

[Girl19]

I'm really trying too honestly but she just won't stop!

All I wanted out of this conflict was for her to realize she went overboard and did infact insult and offend me a lot..

But you know what I'm going stop for real this time, I'll just ignore what she says...

Ignore what I say, I don't care. But I'm gonna say what I have to say anyway.
And I love how in every post now you say that I "offended" you. You only started using this word after I started using it, because you want to reverse the situation and make me look as the bad person. And obviously it worked.

OMG I said it wasn't on purpose! Just get over it woman!  

I don't get over things that quickly, man!

And like I said all of that was AFTER you said I lied to myself and called me a fool. So yes the first attack was you.

You attacked me first because I said I also loved GinXSherry.
If you had accepted my OMG-DIFFERENT point of view, nothing of this would have happened.

Hes right this is childish but now you got me heated. And calling me a fool wasn't an insult? How about arrogant fool? Hmmm? Was that not an insult as well?

"Fool" wasn't an insult. And I added "arrogant" later because you were trying hard to prove that you were a better fan because you're supposedly *the only one* who believes in AiCon.

I did not intentionaly offend you unlike you who intentionaly offended me!



I tried to be the bigger person but anger got the best of me this time

Curse you emotions! Such a weakness...

You're already the "bigger" fan, so it's okay if you're not the "bigger" person too. /sarcasm again


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All i want is for this to stop right. this. instant so this thread can go back the way it is - because seriously, don't you think both of you are setting a bad image to the guests that may well be aicon fans and potential newcomers to the forum?

Well it's not like a few pages will set up a bad image about a 190+ thread, and it's not like the guests have never read this thread before. And before this argument, this thread was about Yaoi, I don't think that's any better.

Though this doesn't matter, main point is what do want out of this by continuing to conflict with Prince? - seems like you don't want an apology either.

I don't want fake apology. And if he would just stop attacking me indirectly, I'd stop even mentionning this whole thing. I'm not looking for problems, but I'm never holding back either. Sorry. So bottom line, he stops, I stop too.

[Rellik]

The atmosphere is the problem here, both of you are giving the thread a negative one, ntm when we 'discuss' yaoi/yuri, it's all a joke and fun - this conflict is a total opposite.

So bottom line, he stops, I stop too.

ok... so no more after this post, ok? - (don't reply to this)

[Detective Prince]

[Girl19]

ok... so no more after this post, ok? - (don't reply to this)

No more argument, ok, but I still want to reply. It's not like I'll stop replying in this thread.

The atmosphere is the problem here, both of you are giving the thread a negative one, ntm when we 'discuss' yaoi/yuri, it's all a joke and fun - this conflict is a total opposite.

You're right, our argument had a negative atmosphere, but at least it wasn't completely off-topic. Yaoi/yuri discussions were off-topic. And they may be fun to many people, but they're not to me. Once again, it all depends on different opinions, right?

All right, so now this thread needs to get back to fully on-topic AiCon discussion.. which it lost many pages back, sadly.

[xGinx]

LOL .... come on people, stop fighting each other, you are both supossed to be AixCon fans, does it matter if one is a bigger fan than the other? i don't think so ... besides, can't two diferent persons have two diferent points of view of a same thing?? ..... to Girl19 AixCon is to support everything that involves Conan and Ai (and i mean everything), friendship, pairing, being partners (watch her signature if u dont believe me, i think that represents pretty much what she thinks about AixCon), while Detective Prince supports mostly the pairing part, he wants them to end up together like a couple.

But basicly you both enjoy the same thing, seing Conan and Ai together (in a way or another) and that's all that matters.

You misunderstood my fanatism, xGinx. Sadly.
And my banner doesn't reflect my fanatism, it only reflects a part of it.
I love EVERYTHING about AiCon, I never said the opposite. I just said that the fact that I want them to end up together doesn't mean I believe they will end up together. And if Detective Prince only loves the couple side, well I love the couple side and THE MANY OTHER THINGS that AiCon is about, as you said.

What i tried to say was that u support every aspect of AixConan as a couple, from the romantic part to the detective stuff, in other words, everything .... what i wanted to say about the signature part is that the signature shows what i said before because a person that only supports AixConan as a romantic couple wouldn have a signature with them in some romantic way or something like that.

I'm glad that everything is ALMOST back to normal, it will take time to everything be back to normal but don't worry, this things happen, now, let's go back to AixConan

[AICHAN]

See that doesn't mean your not true fans at all. I didn't say that. You looked for a deeper meaning in what I said but there was none. Now let me tell you what I meant by it. I meant that your happy if she ends up with someone because she want her to be happy with some else if it can't be Conan

Yes, because, once again, I'm not an AiCon maniac, I'm a fan.

And what I meant by everything else is everything but calling you merely a general fan.

All he said was about "true" fans and fans in "general". He only gave an example before that. And you said you agreed with him.

Which if I look back at it he didn't exactly say general fan he said in general but thats the besides the point. What I meant is he was right about me believing that AiXconan will happen and your a fan of other relationships involving Ai. Now look carefully. I didn't say any relationship I said others since I have to be more specfic with you: AiXAkai, AiXGin

Now its sad that you were being sarcastic because that is true you were putting words in my mouth and if you really look back you were the only one throughing insults around.

Well let me tell you that you failed at being specific. And you should have explained your ideas clearly since the very beginning. Not just now and then accuse me of putting words in your mouth and attacking you as if I were a crazy person who attacks people for no reason.

and if some people like GinxSherry or AkaixSherry,it's more because of their common past,so we assume they had a relationship which was interesting (but we have to wait for Gosho to know her past in the BO... )

Now you see thats what I don't get. Akai was Akemi's lover. Why do people think he had some kind of romantic relationship with Shiho?

As far as I'm concerned, I never said Akai had a relationship with her. I only said it's possible that Gin had a relationship with her.
And by the way, just like you don't "get" why people would love AiXAkai, there are also other people (mostly the ShinRan fans and Schillok) who say they don't "get" why we love AiCon. See, that's what we call different opinions.

And as far as I'm concerned, this wasn't directed to you.

Being rude again huh? It's sad to see that you can't have a real discussion without being rude.
I only replied to you because you said "PEOPLE" and that was very generic. You shoud have said "YOU" if you were only talking to AICHAN.

No I should have said "you" if I was talking about AICHAN. I was talking to her about people who, and notice I didn't say likes AiXAkai, think they had a past relationship.

hmmm ,did i said somthing like that? i never said they had a romantic past...i only said they probably had an interesting relationship(friendship,brother/sister relation...) because he knows her a lot....i'm pretty sure that if he used her to be a higher member in BO,he sure had to become close to her in a way...
even people who don't like AixAkai think they were probably close together,it's what i supposed when we know about akai's past...then believe it or not,that's your choice... i understand why some people don't get it when say i like ShihoxAkai,but i don' care
anyway,even if i kinda like this idea,i'm still a strong Aicon fan until the end...is it wrong to like different kind of pairings?

by the way,it's okay if Girl19 answers,cause i think she has the same opinion as me concerning Akai or Gin


anyway,can you please stop arguing now about who offended the other...i think DetectivePrince may have offended girl19 unintentionnally,and if i was her i would be angry too,but still,that's not a reason to start a war...forgiving is a proof of maturity
we are aicon fans that's the only important thing in this thread...


Edit: seems like things are more peaceful now...^^

[Detective Prince]

Well actually I didn't say you said that I was just asking why other people think that.

[AICHAN]

Well actually I didn't say you said that I was just asking why other people think that.

ok...since you quoted my sentence,i thought i was included in the word "people"...

anyway, that's only fan assumptions based on the things we know about Akai,that's what i wanted to explain...but i don't know many people who believe they had a romantic past

[baka1412]

Just helping this thread back into page 1 

[xGinx]

What this topic needs is someone to bring something Ai + Conan related to discuss .... who wants to try?? anyone?

[Searcher]

I go offline for a few days and look what happend, we are reaching the 200 page

And a war of misunderstanding

But first I have to fix something.

Quote from: Girl19 on April 09, 2010, 07:35:08 AM
Quote from: Searcher on April 09, 2010, 07:03:02 AM
Call us "The Ultimate Believers"

Fixed.

Fixed

Refixed.

Re-refixed.

If Detective Prince and I want to call ourselves "The Ultimate Believers" because we believe (100%) in a Aixcon ending, then we can call ourself that.
You can call us "arrogant fools" to our faces many times, we don't care. But at least have the decency to respect the name, by which we define ourself.

Calling someone a "fool" without a smily face, is an insult. Calling someone a "arrogant fool" without a smily face, is a bigger insult.

And Detective Prince and I are not saying that we are a bigger, or smaller, Ai fans than anyone else. Before some people start that discussion
Or that we don't like Aixconan interaction/relationship/jokes/etc. We love them, just like any Ai fan.

I do not want to reopen the war, but I have to say what's on mine mind.

@searcher:i was like you before(when the proof of Ai's feelings were more visibles ) but i became more realistic,and  even if i LOVE aicon more than any other pairing,i know i will be sad in the end...,but the pain will be lower than if i was sure they would end together,because i already know how it will end...(i don't know if you understand what i meanXD)

of course,many of us still have a little hope for Aicon and pray for them to be together in the end,but we all know how it's going to end...we just enjoy the moments they spend together,their interactions...that's enough to make me happy!
being realistic doesn't mean we aren't true fans,on the contrary...

Let me try to explain AICHAN, to me it seems like I have 2 choices.

1. I can spend the next 20 or 30 years of mine life, having sad feelings that Aixconan will probally not happen. Get sad after seeing Aixconan moment when they interact, because they will not get together. And at the end of DC, when I see a ranxshinici ending and hopefully a good Ai ending, I will curse Gosho for many, many, many months (for wasting a superb character) and go on with mine life.

2. Just believe in a Aixconan ending, feel good about it, for the next 20 or 30 years. Start thinking about writing fanfiction about them, enjoying Aixconan moments etc. And "if" by some chance it ends in a ranxshinichi ending, I will curse Gosho for many, many, many months (for wasting a superb character) and go on with mine life.

So if I have a choice of feeling good or sad for 20 or 30 years to come. I will chose numbero 2 Believe me, mine pain will be the same if there is no Aixconan ending in both options.
Besides, like I said earlier. I have a strange feeling that it will end in a Aixconan ending.

Well xGinx wanted to discuss something Ai + Conan related, so here are a few questions I have.

1. What haircolour does Gin have, in the manga it white (I think), in the anime it's brown and in the Live action movie it's silver

2. Are their more Live action movies, besides the first 2?
I really hated the first one, it made Ran look like a "hypocritical fool".
Loved the second one, great Aixconan relationship moments They should have the writers of that movie do the AO.
After seeing the second live action movie, I think the reason why Gosho hasn't given us an episode of only Ai and conan might be because.
If people see how great they are together interacting, working and solving puzzles, they would want more episodes of them together.
And it would seriously put a damp on Ranxshinichi fans

3. Has someone supported ShinichixSonoko. She looked beautifull, and wise in the live action movies. Unlike in the manga and anime

4. Why does some people believe something has happend between Ai and Gin. Remember this is emotionless Gosho we are talking about.
Gin is probally jealous of Ai hairstyle, that the reason why he wants to kill Ai

Detecive Prince, maybe we should send letters to the secretary of Gosho, whom the character Ai is based on, to help us support for more Aixconan moments and an Aixconan ending

[Conia]

I go offline for a few days and look what happend, we are reaching the 200 page

Not yet

@searcher:i was like you before(when the proof of Ai's feelings were more visibles ) but i became more realistic,and  even if i LOVE aicon more than any other pairing,i know i will be sad in the end...,but the pain will be lower than if i was sure they would end together,because i already know how it will end...(i don't know if you understand what i meanXD)

of course,many of us still have a little hope for Aicon and pray for them to be together in the end,but we all know how it's going to end...we just enjoy the moments they spend together,their interactions...that's enough to make me happy!
being realistic doesn't mean we aren't true fans,on the contrary...

Let me try to explain AICHAN, to me it seems like I have 2 choices.

1. I can spend the next 20 or 30 years of mine life, having sad feelings that Aixconan will probally not happen. Get sad after seeing Aixconan moment when they interact, because they will not get together. And at the end of DC, when I see a ranxshinici ending and hopefully a good Ai ending, I will curse Gosho for many, many, many months (for wasting a superb character) and go on with mine life.

2. Just believe in a Aixconan ending, feel good about it, for the next 20 or 30 years. Start thinking about writing fanfiction about them, enjoying Aixconan moments etc. And "if" by some chance it ends in a ranxshinichi ending, I will curse Gosho for many, many, many months (for wasting a superb character) and go on with mine life.

So if I have a choice of feeling good or sad for 20 or 30 years to come. I will chose numbero 2 Believe me, mine pain will be the same if there is no Aixconan ending in both options.
Besides, like I said earlier. I have a strange feeling that it will end in a Aixconan ending.

I think this is what AICHAN and Girl19 (Ai cookie allies ) are trying to demostrate: Ai and Conan getting together at the end of DC it's EXTREMELY unlikely, but their fanatism comes from the interactions between and Ai and Conan, no matter what they future is, together or not.

[Girl19]

But first I have to fix something.

Quote from: Girl19 on April 09, 2010, 07:35:08 AM
Quote from: Searcher on April 09, 2010, 07:03:02 AM
Call us "WTF I'm lookin for problemz againnn!!11!"
Fixed.
Fixed
Refixed.
Re-refixed.

We can go like this forever if you want to.

If Detective Prince and I want to call ourselves "The Ultimate Believers" because we believe (100%) in a Aixcon ending, then we can call ourself that.
You can call us "arrogant fools" to our faces many times, we don't care. But at least have the decency to respect the name, by which we define ourself.

Calling someone a "fool" without a smily face, is an insult. Calling someone a "arrogant fool" without a smily face, is a bigger insult.

And Detective Prince and I are not saying that we are a bigger, or smaller, Ai fans than anyone else. Before some people start that discussion
Or that we don't like Aixconan interaction/relationship/jokes/etc. We love them, just like any Ai fan.

You're late to the party dude.

I do not want to reopen the war

You've just did.

Well xGinx wanted to discuss something Ai + Conan related, so here are a few questions I have.

1. What haircolour does Gin have, in the manga it white (I think), in the anime it's brown and in the Live action movie it's silver

2. Are their more Live action movies, besides the first 2?
I really hated the first one, it made Ran look like a "hypocritical fool".
Loved the second one, great Aixconan relationship moments They should have the writers of that movie do the AO.
After seeing the second live action movie, I think the reason why Gosho hasn't given us an episode of only Ai and conan might be because.
If people see how great they are together interacting, working and solving puzzles, they would want more episodes of them together.
And it would seriously put a damp on Ranxshinichi fans

3. Has someone supported ShinichixSonoko. She looked beautifull, and wise in the live action movies. Unlike in the manga and anime

4. Why does some people believe something has happend between Ai and Gin. Remember this is emotionless Gosho we are talking about.
Gin is probally jealous of Ai hairstyle, that the reason why he wants to kill Ai

No comment.

[Kor]

You can call us "arrogant fools" to our faces many times, we don't care.

Obviously though, you do.

Or that we don't like Aixconan interaction/relationship/jokes/etc. We love them, just like any Ai fan.

AiCon fan and Ai fan - not the same things.

1. I can spend the next 20 or 30 years of mine life, having sad feelings that Aixconan will probally not happen.

I'm shocked by so many things here, I don't know even where to begin...
AiCon?
THAT is what you're going to think about for 20 years? A fictional fan couple in a japanese cartoon?
btw...I doubt it will take Gosho THAT long to finish the series.

I will curse Gosho for many, many, many months (for wasting a superb character) and go on with mine life.

Or...you could do something slightly more productive with your life in these many months.

Besides, like I said earlier. I have a strange feeling that it will end in a Aixconan ending.

...

Well xGinx wanted to discuss something Ai + Conan related, so here are a few questions I have.

oh goody

1. What haircolour does Gin have, in the manga it white (I think), in the anime it's brown and in the Live action movie it's silver

I thought you said it was Ai + Conan related.

3. Has someone supported ShinichixSonoko. She looked beautifull, and wise in the live action movies. Unlike in the manga and anime

And how is this related to Ai + Conan?

4. Why does some people believe something has happend between Ai and Gin. Remember this is emotionless Gosho we are talking about.

OK, the credibility level of your arguments is now below 0. The man, who fixes a soulmate to every second character and makes sure that almost everyone is part of a couple, is EMOTIONLESS?

[AICHAN]

Detecive Prince, maybe we should send letters to the secretary of Gosho, whom the character Ai is based on, to help us support for more Aixconan moments and an Aixconan ending

is it true?


by the way,we are near to 200 pages,so Girl19,get ready to make some cookies