Ai + Conan

[Xela]

Ran is the cutest girl Ive ever seen!
She is cool,strong,honest,lovely,friendly,beautiful,intelligent, a good cook,a good dauter, a good sister she is perfect I love her!
Okay i dont say that Ai isnt so, of course she is beautiful,very intelligent,cool and so on but shinichi has to be with ran!There cant be another choice! I mean, Ran waits for him since 1 year(MINIMUM!), after so long waiting, I cant imagine the final:

-"Ran,Im sorry,you waited for me,but I love Ai,so byebye"

I never can imagine this! And I also cant imagine that she will not forgive him,or that she will die or smthng like that.
She will live and be together with ShinichI! I also think that ai doesnt want to grow she will stay so. These are my opinions,of course there are aixconan fans but guys can you really imagine a final,where we will see ran crying while shinichi and ai are kissing???

I think someone needs a glass of water.

[James Rye]

and besides is fun watching the fuel being added to fire Tongue
^ This topic must be revived!

O.O
Someone stepped on the slepping dragon tail!
Run for your Lives!

..Ran sure is an idiot..I hate her..
Man, that was just cold right there

Absolutly true.
Gosho didn´t make his Charas to be hating, mabe exept the BO-members, but they´re to cool for that. XD

I like Ran as a Chara, since she is nice, thinks about others and stuff.
They´re are things i dislike about her like she can do ANYTHING perfekt by the first time she is trying, par example making a glass of ton or landing a plane.^^

But same goes for Haibara Ai who is cool and also thinks about the ones she likes, but don´t tell Conan anything voluntary about the BO or isn´t even trying to change his Love interest like in the first volumes when they have meet.
Dont get me wrong, i respect her choice not to get between Shinichi and Ran, but i wanna see at least some Catfight between Ran and Ai/Shiho. That would be sexy as hell. XD

I´m pretty safe about Ranichi cause i didn´t like them since the first volume. Don´t worry, i also know their Happy Ending is a given.
But for my taste it was to fast and unbeliveable .  :)

I have kinda the feeling, that here for most postwriters Ran and Ai were waaaay more improtant like the main men in DC, Conan Edogawa/Shinichi Kudo.  :P

Ran is the cutest girl Ive ever seen!
She is cool,strong,honest,lovely,friendly,beautiful,intelligent, a good cook,a good dauter, a good sister she is perfect I love her!
Okay i dont say that Ai isnt so, of course she is beautiful,very intelligent,cool and so on but shinichi has to be with ran!There cant be another choice! I mean, Ran waits for him since 1 year(MINIMUM!), after so long waiting, I cant imagine the final:

-"Ran,Im sorry,you waited for me,but I love Ai,so byebye"

I never can imagine this! And I also cant imagine that she will not forgive him,or that she will die or smthng like that.
She will live and be together with ShinichI! I also think that ai doesnt want to grow she will stay so. These are my opinions,of course there are aixconan fans but guys can you really imagine a final,where we will see ran crying while shinichi and ai are kissing???



I think someone needs a glass of water.

I also can´t imaging that Goshso would write a possible ShinichixShiho or ConanxAi Ending like THAT.
He sure wants to get old. XD

[Xela]

I have kinda the feeling, that here for most postwriters Ran and Ai were waaaay more improtant like the main men in DC, Conan Edogawa/Shinichi Kudo.  :P

Technically, it´s not "men". They are the same person after all.
But I agree with you: The girls (and I´m referring to several manga) are usually rooted for just getting what they want while the guy´s feelings are not even taken into consideration.

[Shana1412]

ooooooo, i just watched OVA 9 ........wow...haibara as a teenager, she's so cute, her and shinichi look so good together!... and OMG Ran looks so beautiful. it's so sad how she waited that long though.devotion in the highest degree (awwwwwwww)

[James Rye]

Technically, it´s not "men". They are the same person after all.
But I agree with you: The girls (and I´m referring to several manga) are usually rooted for just getting what they want while the guy´s feelings are not even taken into consideration.

But 95% of the DC-population thinks that Conan and Shinichi are two different persons, so its okay. 
And i also want Aicon even though i know that he loves Ran.^^"

Hm, was their any Chapter were Conan/Shinichi clearly says that he loves Ran? I mean something with real substance not the "this could mean all and nothing"-stuff he usally said. 
Did he ever said: "I love Ran."? Cause i can´t remember something like that, it was more like "feelings" and "i care about you" and stuff.^^

Don´t worry, i don´t say that he DO NOT love Ran, but after almost 700 Chapters it´s kinda frustating to know absolutly since the first Volume about her real feelings, but his were always hinted.
Just the feeling i get from reading. 

Another thing:
How do you do that with the quote? Cause mine don´t show from who it is.

[kirite]

Here are the words of Jane Austen in Northanger Abbey, just to spark the debate:

Spoiler:

[...]though to the larger and more trifling part of the sex, imbecility in females is a great enhancement of their personal charms, there is a portion of them too reasonable and too well informed themselves to desire any thing more in woman than ignorance.

Personally, I don't agree with it, but applying this to Ran and Haibara, I really don't know...

Yeah...believe it or not...its true. Which is pitiful.....

It really depends on how you interpret the word "imbecility".  I think guys just want girls to be easier to understand and less complicated (why they get mad for no reason etc), but that also can be said about girls wanting guys to be easier to understand and less complicated (hence 99% of Shoujo manga storylines feature a silly child-like guy with only "cute" and easy to understand characteristics.  If the manga features a "dark" guy then his personality will be explained in chapter after chapters of dialogue).

But then I love that quote...I'm a feminist xD.

[bluekaitou1412]

One thing I hate about Ran is her frequently calling out Shin'ichi (or imagining that he's called out by Shin'ichi)
when she's about to wake up (or on some occasions, put to sleep, knocked out) or whatever, especially when Conan is around.

Shinichi (illusion): Ran! Ran! (with echo)
Ran: Shin......i......chi........? (slow talking)

or

Ran: Help me... Shin....i.....chi..... (voice fades, then unconscious)

AAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Conia]

Technically, it´s not "men". They are the same person after all.
But I agree with you: The girls (and I´m referring to several manga) are usually rooted for just getting what they want while the guy´s feelings are not even taken into consideration.

But 95% of the DC-population thinks that Conan and Shinichi are two different persons, so its okay. 
And i also want Aicon even though i know that he loves Ran.^^"

Hm, was their any Chapter were Conan/Shinichi clearly says that he loves Ran? I mean something with real substance not the "this could mean all and nothing"-stuff he usally said. 
Did he ever said: "I love Ran."? Cause i can´t remember something like that, it was more like "feelings" and "i care about you" and stuff.^^

Don´t worry, i don´t say that he DO NOT love Ran, but after almost 700 Chapters it´s kinda frustating to know absolutly since the first Volume about her real feelings, but his were always hinted.
Just the feeling i get from reading. 

Another thing:
How do you do that with the quote? Cause mine don´t show from who it is.

I don't recall Conan/Sinichi saying he loves Ran in the anime(I don't read manga), but there are some episodes in which Conan gets EXTREMELY jealous when appears a potencial boyfriend for Ran(Araide, for example)

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT
In movie 4, Conan says "I Love You" to Ran, and this is perfect proof to understand Conan/Sinichi feelings
viceversa in Movie 8, Ran says "I Love You" to Sinichi...
They love each other,it's impossible that they doesn't end together,although seeing Haibara as a "troublemaker" for this couple makes it super funny

another thing, nobody mention Aixmitsuhiko! i've red A LOT about "intellectual" between Conan and Ai, i think Mitsu-kun is "intellectual" for his age...
If the BO is taken down,and Haibara doesn't take the antidote for reasons already discussed in earlier pages, she could grow up with Mitsuhiko and develop a childhood friendship just like Ran and Sinichi
well, its true that Ai and Mitsuhiko doesn't along well, but I have faith in that couple




sorry for the long reply...

[Introuble]

Technically, it´s not "men". They are the same person after all.
But I agree with you: The girls (and I´m referring to several manga) are usually rooted for just getting what they want while the guy´s feelings are not even taken into consideration.

But 95% of the DC-population thinks that Conan and Shinichi are two different persons, so its okay. 
And i also want Aicon even though i know that he loves Ran.^^"

Hm, was their any Chapter were Conan/Shinichi clearly says that he loves Ran? I mean something with real substance not the "this could mean all and nothing"-stuff he usally said. 
Did he ever said: "I love Ran."? Cause i can´t remember something like that, it was more like "feelings" and "i care about you" and stuff.^^

Don´t worry, i don´t say that he DO NOT love Ran, but after almost 700 Chapters it´s kinda frustating to know absolutly since the first Volume about her real feelings, but his were always hinted.
Just the feeling i get from reading. 

Another thing:
How do you do that with the quote? Cause mine don´t show from who it is.

ermmm its actually obvious that they love each other...come on
if you would just open your eyes you will see that they love each other
i mean seriously if someone cant see the love between shinran you must be extremly biased or you must be denying yourself

no offense....and yes ive read this "Don´t worry, i don´t say that he DO NOT love Ran" just pointing out

[sstimson]

Technically, it´s not "men". They are the same person after all.
But I agree with you: The girls (and I´m referring to several manga) are usually rooted for just getting what they want while the guy´s feelings are not even taken into consideration.

But 95% of the DC-population thinks that Conan and Shinichi are two different persons, so its okay. 
And i also want Aicon even though i know that he loves Ran.^^"

Hm, was their any Chapter were Conan/Shinichi clearly says that he loves Ran? I mean something with real substance not the "this could mean all and nothing"-stuff he usally said. 
Did he ever said: "I love Ran."? Cause i can´t remember something like that, it was more like "feelings" and "i care about you" and stuff.^^

Don´t worry, i don´t say that he DO NOT love Ran, but after almost 700 Chapters it´s kinda frustating to know absolutly since the first Volume about her real feelings, but his were always hinted.
Just the feeling i get from reading. 

Another thing:
How do you do that with the quote? Cause mine don´t show from who it is.

I do not know if this counts

But at the end of the "First Love Case"

The soccer manger confess to Kudo and Kudo discriptation of who he likes Hit Ran to a T though they "Conan and Ran" miss it of course.
That might be the best " Canon" example you will find

Spoiler:

Later

[ShinRan36]

Technically, it´s not "men". They are the same person after all.
But I agree with you: The girls (and I´m referring to several manga) are usually rooted for just getting what they want while the guy´s feelings are not even taken into consideration.

But 95% of the DC-population thinks that Conan and Shinichi are two different persons, so its okay. 
And i also want Aicon even though i know that he loves Ran.^^"

Hm, was their any Chapter were Conan/Shinichi clearly says that he loves Ran? I mean something with real substance not the "this could mean all and nothing"-stuff he usally said. 
Did he ever said: "I love Ran."? Cause i can´t remember something like that, it was more like "feelings" and "i care about you" and stuff.^^

Don´t worry, i don´t say that he DO NOT love Ran, but after almost 700 Chapters it´s kinda frustating to know absolutly since the first Volume about her real feelings, but his were always hinted.
Just the feeling i get from reading. 

Another thing:
How do you do that with the quote? Cause mine don´t show from who it is.

I do not know if this counts

But at the end of the "First Love Case"

The soccer manger confess to Kudo and Kudo discriptation of who he likes Hit Ran to a T though they "Conan and Ran" miss it of course.
That might be the best " Canon" example you will find

Spoiler:

Later

exactly

[James Rye]

I don't recall Conan/Sinichi saying he loves Ran in the anime(I don't read manga), but there are some episodes in which Conan gets EXTREMELY jealous when appears a potencial boyfriend for Ran(Araide, for example)

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT
In movie 4, Conan says "I Love You" to Ran, and this is perfect proof to understand Conan/Sinichi feelings
viceversa in Movie 8, Ran says "I Love You" to Sinichi...
They love each other,it's impossible that they doesn't end together,although seeing Haibara as a "troublemaker" for this couple makes it super funny

another thing, nobody mention Aixmitsuhiko! i've red A LOT about "intellectual" between Conan and Ai, i think Mitsu-kun is "intellectual" for his age...
If the BO is taken down,and Haibara doesn't take the antidote for reasons already discussed in earlier pages, she could grow up with Mitsuhiko and develop a childhood friendship just like Ran and Sinichi
well, its true that Ai and Mitsuhiko doesn't along well, but I have faith in that couple

sorry for the long reply...

Yeah, he is veeeeery funny when he´s jealous. XD
The movies are Canon? 
I thought there were for entertainment. (and most of the time, i think there were "Trash"^g^)
Mitsu has a lot of backgroundinfos cuase he ahs two teachers as parents. He is not a genius like Conan or AI.^^
Remember Epi. 536? He is a Kid, a intelligent one, but no one who´s on the same page like the both.
And if AixMitsu ever will happen, i´m pretty sure Gosho is the next celebrity who dies. 

ermmm its actually obvious that they love each other...come on
if you would just open your eyes you will see that they love each other
i mean seriously if someone cant see the love between shinran you must be extremly biased or you must be denying yourself

no offense....and yes ive read this "Don´t worry, i don´t say that he DO NOT love Ran" just pointing out

I know he loves Ran.^^
I just asked if someone knows when he says that he loves her. thats all. 
Don´t worry i´m not offend, thx for reading and replying. 

I do not know if this counts

But at the end of the "First Love Case"

The soccer manger confess to Kudo and Kudo discriptation of who he likes Hit Ran to a T though they "Conan and Ran" miss it of course.
That might be the best " Canon" example you will find

Spoiler:

Later

True, i forgot about that one. 
It was funny when Ran asked if there is such a girl. XD
But it was just show, right? I mean, she sure knows that he meant her, right? But at that time she thougs Conan = Shinichi, so she just played the "Who-does-he-mean-role, right?

Ups, off-topic now.^^"
And sorry for the longlong Post, too.

[Rellik]

yeh, just to clarify, movies are non-canon.

well there are arguments saying that shiratori first started as a character in movie, but whatever, we clearly know Gosho wouldn't make Ran say to Shinichi 'I love you' in the movies, he hasn't even done it in the manga yet.

[Introuble]

detective conan movies are non-canon but the reflect on the anime/manga in a way
if shin&ran did not love each other they would not show emotions/feelings towards each other in the movie
but knowing shinran is the obvious pair they put scenes between them..

so imagine of co and ai did end up together people would say WTF when they would rewatch all the movies or think about them

[Conia]

Yeah, movies aren't made by Gosho,thus non-canon,but they add up perfectly to the anime
its like Kaitou Kid knowing Conan is Sinichi,is not clear in the anime, but in movies looks like he knows the secret


Just wait, in ten years,Mitsuhiko will be the new Nippon Holmes