Ai + Conan
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Where is it? Please... I wanna read it...
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Hey, i'm new. I have to say I'm all Ai/ Shinchi. I thought Ran was cool with Shinchi at first, but she and shinchi only really looked okay because they were friends. But, she's just a big cry baby who annoys me on every level. Ai and Conan was like instant chemistry, a chemistry that took me forever to get into with Ran and shinchi. And doesn't it kinda feel one-sided on Ran's love? Shinchi seems confused now. ("I love Ran...but I think I'm starting to love Haibara..."
In every Anime why does the sweet girl always have to win the guy? It is way too common in Japanese stories. Plus I think an Ai/Shinchi romance is cute without being too sweet. Ran just seems like another obsessed fan girl of Shinchi kudo. Sure its great to have a good heart, but what about good minds. But Japan degrades their women to be clumsy, useless, and just simply there to be the lover. I have to remember a guy made this...(no offense to guys out there) We need variety, people.
In every Anime why does the sweet girl always have to win the guy? It is way too common in Japanese stories. Plus I think an Ai/Shinchi romance is cute without being too sweet. Ran just seems like another obsessed fan girl of Shinchi kudo. Sure its great to have a good heart, but what about good minds. But Japan degrades their women to be clumsy, useless, and just simply there to be the lover. I have to remember a guy made this...(no offense to guys out there) We need variety, people.
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1...2...3....4....5Soragirl6 wrote: Hey, i'm new. I have to say I'm all Ai/ Shinchi. I thought Ran was cool with Shinchi at first, but she and shinchi only really looked okay because they were friends. But, she's just a big cry baby who annoys me on every level. Ai and Conan was like instant chemistry, a chemistry that took me forever to get into with Ran and shinchi. And doesn't it kinda feel one-sided on Ran's love? Shinchi seems confused now. ("I love Ran...but I think I'm starting to love Haibara..."
In every Anime why does the sweet girl always have to win the guy? It is way too common in Japanese stories. Plus I think an Ai/Shinchi romance is cute without being too sweet. Ran just seems like another obsessed fan girl of Shinchi kudo. Sure its great to have a good heart, but what about good minds. But Japan degrades their women to be clumsy, useless, and just simply there to be the lover. I have to remember a guy made this...(no offense to guys out there) We need variety, people.
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assumin u watch the anime, then they probably screwed up some way because there's no clear sign Conan is even a tiny bit into Ai (he cares about her, but more of a friend's way than lovers).Soragirl6 wrote: Hey, i'm new. I have to say I'm all Ai/ Shinchi. I thought Ran was cool with Shinchi at first, but she and shinchi only really looked okay because they were friends. But, she's just a big cry baby who annoys me on every level. Ai and Conan was like instant chemistry, a chemistry that took me forever to get into with Ran and shinchi. And doesn't it kinda feel one-sided on Ran's love? Shinchi seems confused now. ("I love Ran...but I think I'm starting to love Haibara..."
In every Anime why does the sweet girl always have to win the guy? It is way too common in Japanese stories. Plus I think an Ai/Shinchi romance is cute without being too sweet. Ran just seems like another obsessed fan girl of Shinchi kudo. Sure its great to have a good heart, but what about good minds. But Japan degrades their women to be clumsy, useless, and just simply there to be the lover. I have to remember a guy made this...(no offense to guys out there) We need variety, people.
its going to happen, but its not happening now.
and becareful about this 'big cry baby' thing, u can seriously annoy ShinichixRan ppl (like me and Introuble

And i think Ai is sweet sometimes... so shouldn't she also win the guy according to you?
'But Japan degrades their women to be clumsy, useless, and just simply there to be the lover.'
hmmm... don't see any women in DC that fits that category :/
well if it ever happens then it is purely for fan service.
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thats right, when ai is good mood, she's so sweet, but when she's bad mood....
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yeah...okay...trust me, I let out my steam ages ago.... 

Introuble wrote:1...2...3....4....5Soragirl6 wrote: Hey, i'm new. I have to say I'm all Ai/ Shinchi. I thought Ran was cool with Shinchi at first, but she and shinchi only really looked okay because they were friends. But, she's just a big cry baby who annoys me on every level. Ai and Conan was like instant chemistry, a chemistry that took me forever to get into with Ran and shinchi. And doesn't it kinda feel one-sided on Ran's love? Shinchi seems confused now. ("I love Ran...but I think I'm starting to love Haibara..."
In every Anime why does the sweet girl always have to win the guy? It is way too common in Japanese stories. Plus I think an Ai/Shinchi romance is cute without being too sweet. Ran just seems like another obsessed fan girl of Shinchi kudo. Sure its great to have a good heart, but what about good minds. But Japan degrades their women to be clumsy, useless, and just simply there to be the lover. I have to remember a guy made this...(no offense to guys out there) We need variety, people.
logic beats anger
5...4....3....2.....1
logic beats anger
inhale....exhale
Kingdom Hearts......IS LIGHT!!!!!!!!
Yuuko:......"it is inevitable......"


I AM THE REAL KOR!!!!
Yuuko:......"it is inevitable......"


I AM THE REAL KOR!!!!
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'don't see any women in DC that fits that category' You don't see? Ran, of course. She doesn't really fit the story. What is she there for? Explain it to me. She seemed very useless....simply there to be a lover. All she does is cry. Everytime I watched an episode I was like 'will she do anything useful besides cry?' I mean sure she solved like a few cases, but it really wasn't much help to the story, just there to show Ran. she's only there to be some chick who loves shinchi? Thats not very exciting.Rellik wrote:assumin u watch the anime, then they probably screwed up some way because there's no clear sign Conan is even a tiny bit into Ai (he cares about her, but more of a friend's way than lovers).Soragirl6 wrote: Hey, i'm new. I have to say I'm all Ai/ Shinchi. I thought Ran was cool with Shinchi at first, but she and shinchi only really looked okay because they were friends. But, she's just a big cry baby who annoys me on every level. Ai and Conan was like instant chemistry, a chemistry that took me forever to get into with Ran and shinchi. And doesn't it kinda feel one-sided on Ran's love? Shinchi seems confused now. ("I love Ran...but I think I'm starting to love Haibara..."
In every Anime why does the sweet girl always have to win the guy? It is way too common in Japanese stories. Plus I think an Ai/Shinchi romance is cute without being too sweet. Ran just seems like another obsessed fan girl of Shinchi kudo. Sure its great to have a good heart, but what about good minds. But Japan degrades their women to be clumsy, useless, and just simply there to be the lover. I have to remember a guy made this...(no offense to guys out there) We need variety, people.
its going to happen, but its not happening now.
and becareful about this 'big cry baby' thing, u can seriously annoy ShinichixRan ppl (like me and Introuble)
And i think Ai is sweet sometimes... so shouldn't she also win the guy according to you?
'But Japan degrades their women to be clumsy, useless, and just simply there to be the lover.'
hmmm... don't see any women in DC that fits that category :/
well if it ever happens then it is purely for fan service.
To answer, Even though she's not clumsy, Many of Japan's animes have females that are portrayed too similarly. Watch a few animes and see the similarities. Ran even acts like Ayumi, part of the DB. The DB have more of a point then Ran.
I mean forgive me, I'm new, but as I was watching I turned my head away from Ran/ Shinchi.
By the way, Haibara can be sweet, but she's got a little personality about her. She's the mystery that shinchi/ Conan will always be chasing to solve. Ran seems to be keeping him running away. That's just my opinion, guys.
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Don't hate me for this, but I always feel some kind of jealousy, when people say negative things about Ran.
First of all, DC is not a shoujo manga, where romance is above all, therefor complicating the main characters love life too muich would cause trouble. ShinihixRan is a very simple relationship on the first sight. they have Their own ups-and-downs, but is is not as flashy as in usual shojos.
Clearly, Ai has a very interesting role in the story, because she loves Shinichi too, but she is kind-hearted enough (or so it seems) to let him to Ran. She lets him be with Ran, because she knows he would be the happiest with her.
Since DC is mostly focused on mysteries and romance gets the second place, major twist (under which I mean real cheating or loving someone else) in the main character's love story is impossible. If the main love pair is not static, I mean if they don't really love eachother and no one else the whole point of DC would fall apart. Because the main point is, that Shinichi wants to get back his real body asap is because of Ran on the first place. He could have gone with his parents to LA, but the mystery and more importantly Ran made him stay. So Shinichi has two major drives mystery and Ran. I won't and will never fit here technically. That's why ShinichixShiho is doomed from the begining. Even if Ran were to die I'm still not so sure whether Shiho and Shinichi would get together.
"Ran has no/little personality, but Ai has more."
People think that Ai has got more personality, because she is a bit more mature than Ran, is "mysterious" and has a dark side. People can relate themselves to Ai, because she has problems and she is is always calm and cool. Where as Ran seems to be plain, and perfect, she is too nice, too kind, only loves Shinichi, is a bit naive and childish. Ran is still not a complete personality and Shinichi finds her enough interesting to "investigate" more on her. And Ran develops by the time and has hardships too. Like this weird relationship with Shinichi. She loves him so much that she would wait for him, 'cause he promised to come back, whatever it takes (wonderful scene in Desperate Revival), her faith in Shinichi won't allow her to investigate on Shinichi, plus the fact that Shinichi investigates on a serious matter and Ran thinks she might get in the way if she just would show up. She understands that she would endanger he, and Shinichi's life if she would just go after him. Her withdrawn from Shinichi is the toughest thing to do. She would just go to him and jump into his arms and everything, but she restrains herself and that is something which not many characters would or even could do. That's a very mature and responsible behaviour from her side.
But, I think in the end, if she senses how dangerous is Shinichi's situation (see the suspicious Okiya) she might really get into trouble in the end.
Ai's background is interesting, but Shinichi doesn't really bother with her personality. Ai's personality is interesting for the readers, but not really for Shinichi. Ai's role is to be the side-lover of the main-character. Not the best role, because we all know what will happen in the end, but still...that's it.
Ran's role is to be a drive/an aim for Shinichi, she is a bit like an idol. If she acts or moves, that makes major happenings, and has a very-very important consequences in the main line. She is not the key (not yet?) to solve the BO case, but without her the story would have less meaning.
First of all, DC is not a shoujo manga, where romance is above all, therefor complicating the main characters love life too muich would cause trouble. ShinihixRan is a very simple relationship on the first sight. they have Their own ups-and-downs, but is is not as flashy as in usual shojos.
Clearly, Ai has a very interesting role in the story, because she loves Shinichi too, but she is kind-hearted enough (or so it seems) to let him to Ran. She lets him be with Ran, because she knows he would be the happiest with her.
Since DC is mostly focused on mysteries and romance gets the second place, major twist (under which I mean real cheating or loving someone else) in the main character's love story is impossible. If the main love pair is not static, I mean if they don't really love eachother and no one else the whole point of DC would fall apart. Because the main point is, that Shinichi wants to get back his real body asap is because of Ran on the first place. He could have gone with his parents to LA, but the mystery and more importantly Ran made him stay. So Shinichi has two major drives mystery and Ran. I won't and will never fit here technically. That's why ShinichixShiho is doomed from the begining. Even if Ran were to die I'm still not so sure whether Shiho and Shinichi would get together.
"Ran has no/little personality, but Ai has more."
People think that Ai has got more personality, because she is a bit more mature than Ran, is "mysterious" and has a dark side. People can relate themselves to Ai, because she has problems and she is is always calm and cool. Where as Ran seems to be plain, and perfect, she is too nice, too kind, only loves Shinichi, is a bit naive and childish. Ran is still not a complete personality and Shinichi finds her enough interesting to "investigate" more on her. And Ran develops by the time and has hardships too. Like this weird relationship with Shinichi. She loves him so much that she would wait for him, 'cause he promised to come back, whatever it takes (wonderful scene in Desperate Revival), her faith in Shinichi won't allow her to investigate on Shinichi, plus the fact that Shinichi investigates on a serious matter and Ran thinks she might get in the way if she just would show up. She understands that she would endanger he, and Shinichi's life if she would just go after him. Her withdrawn from Shinichi is the toughest thing to do. She would just go to him and jump into his arms and everything, but she restrains herself and that is something which not many characters would or even could do. That's a very mature and responsible behaviour from her side.
But, I think in the end, if she senses how dangerous is Shinichi's situation (see the suspicious Okiya) she might really get into trouble in the end.
Ai's background is interesting, but Shinichi doesn't really bother with her personality. Ai's personality is interesting for the readers, but not really for Shinichi. Ai's role is to be the side-lover of the main-character. Not the best role, because we all know what will happen in the end, but still...that's it.
Ran's role is to be a drive/an aim for Shinichi, she is a bit like an idol. If she acts or moves, that makes major happenings, and has a very-very important consequences in the main line. She is not the key (not yet?) to solve the BO case, but without her the story would have less meaning.
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The canon case she solved ended with her discovering Jodie's pictures. This lead her directly to a confrontation with the Org., where she helped save Haibara.Soragirl6 wrote: ...
'don't see any women in DC that fits that category' You don't see? Ran, of course. She doesn't really fit the story. What is she there for? Explain it to me. She seemed very useless....simply there to be a lover. All she does is cry. Everytime I watched an episode I was like 'will she do anything useful besides cry?' I mean sure she solved like a few cases, but it really wasn't much help to the story, just there to show Ran. she's only there to be some chick who loves shinchi? Thats not very exciting.
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She was very much involved in the progression of stories like the canon Akemi story and the story where she met Okiya. Her giving blood to Conan in volume 26 was the "big reveal" of a long, if subtly developed, sub-plot that started in volume 14. Even ignoring the times she's just there to KO a criminal at the end, she's been a key player in the plot, both within a story and in the overarching continuity.
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Soragirl-sama! Why are you so mean to Ran?Soragirl6 wrote: 'don't see any women in DC that fits that category' You don't see? Ran, of course. She doesn't really fit the story. What is she there for? Explain it to me. She seemed very useless....simply there to be a lover. All she does is cry. Everytime I watched an episode I was like 'will she do anything useful besides cry?' I mean sure she solved like a few cases, but it really wasn't much help to the story, just there to show Ran. she's only there to be some chick who loves shinchi? Thats not very exciting.
To answer, Even though she's not clumsy, Many of Japan's animes have females that are portrayed too similarly. Watch a few animes and see the similarities. Ran even acts like Ayumi, part of the DB. The DB have more of a point then Ran.
I mean forgive me, I'm new, but as I was watching I turned my head away from Ran/ Shinchi.
By the way, Haibara can be sweet, but she's got a little personality about her. She's the mystery that shinchi/ Conan will always be chasing to solve. Ran seems to be keeping him running away. That's just my opinion, guys.

You know, If you're not approving for RanXShinichi, look at the bright side!
You can make doujins about AiXConan, make fanarts, fanfictions, or even make your own anime.









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It would really suck if Conan ended up with Haibara. Ran has been waiting for so long (500+ episodes) and so have the fans. No offence to Ai but she'll have to find someone else.
Though I have to say Ran is getting weaker as the story progresses, in the beginning any perp that turns up she'll karate that bastard in the face. But now she always gets scared and cries!! What's with the dramatic personality change?
Though I have to say Ran is getting weaker as the story progresses, in the beginning any perp that turns up she'll karate that bastard in the face. But now she always gets scared and cries!! What's with the dramatic personality change?
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its funny how i can say the exact same thing back about AiSoragirl6 wrote:
'don't see any women in DC that fits that category' You don't see? Ran, of course. She doesn't really fit the story. What is she there for? Explain it to me. She seemed very useless....simply there to be a lover. All she does is cry. Everytime I watched an episode I was like 'will she do anything useful besides cry?' I mean sure she solved like a few cases, but it really wasn't much help to the story, just there to show Ran. she's only there to be some chick who loves shinchi? Thats not very exciting.
She doesn't seem very useful either, she barely contributes in the cases, like some shady character that butts in every so often.
She doesn't care about her life, i can recall 2 instances where she just want to die.
and im gonna quote one of my previous replies:
'Haibara is a girl that has brains, but a complete emo who likes hiding in her room on a pc trying to find a cure to APTX and making Conan a test subject without a care. To Conan she is just a way to turn back to Shinichi and marry Ran.'
So explain to me, what is she there for?
She's only there so Conan can turn back to Shinichi? that doesn't seem very exciting for me either
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Aside from Ai Haibara being there to turn him back, many cases that Haibara has been on, she's cracked. The main point of the story is to find out about the biggest crime syndicate that Haibara knows very well. You can tell that she's going to be of major help because she knows that organization very well. Sure she ACTED like she didn't care, but she solved other cases even before Conan did. In fact in episode 136-137 in "The Old Blue castle Investigation" conan was about to blame that guy for being a bad guy, but thanks to Haibara, she realized he wasn't bad, and Conan was convinced to look closer. See, Conan is the type that when he cracks a case, he believes the evidence he's found so far. But Haibara knows when someone is truly bad or not because she's worked around criminals in the syndicate and has even done some of the acts herself. In the long run, it will help Shinchi/ Conan decipher top org members and ones who simply aren't the main targets.
Now if Ran was a detective or an org member, ex-org member who can crack cases, or F.B.I. (This is DETECTIVE Conan), then she'd be useful. But she's not she's simply a school girl who happens to know Shinchi since childhood, which could be anybody. (After all we did find out Shinchi's first love.) There fore if she's not any of those people...she could only be one thing...one truth prevails...SHE'S JUST THERE TO BE THE LOVER. Those Ran episodes are only there to show Ran to make her seem like she's somewhat part of the series as a character. Haibara episodes show scenes that not only show Ai and Conan's growing bond as it goes on, but it also shows Haibara's knowledge about the Org. Ran and Shinchi's relationship has not fallen, but it hasn't grown. Its stayed just as it started simply put.  I don't suspect it will grow because he's falling further and further away as he gets closer to the org. Even though they might end up together, Shinchi will be a changed man, thanks to the org. He might not even feel the same way about some stupid high school crush because he's learning to look past appearances, and I don't just mean physically but how people appear to act. And he's doing that, thanks to Ai Haibara. ^^
When Ai/Conan are together its usually in excellent cases as well as exciting events surrounding to the story. That's very exciting! If their bond were to grow even stronger that would be twisted, new, shocking and just right for a DETECTIVE story. Ran and Shinchi would just be right back where they started...
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Now if Ran was a detective or an org member, ex-org member who can crack cases, or F.B.I. (This is DETECTIVE Conan), then she'd be useful. But she's not she's simply a school girl who happens to know Shinchi since childhood, which could be anybody. (After all we did find out Shinchi's first love.) There fore if she's not any of those people...she could only be one thing...one truth prevails...SHE'S JUST THERE TO BE THE LOVER. Those Ran episodes are only there to show Ran to make her seem like she's somewhat part of the series as a character. Haibara episodes show scenes that not only show Ai and Conan's growing bond as it goes on, but it also shows Haibara's knowledge about the Org. Ran and Shinchi's relationship has not fallen, but it hasn't grown. Its stayed just as it started simply put.  I don't suspect it will grow because he's falling further and further away as he gets closer to the org. Even though they might end up together, Shinchi will be a changed man, thanks to the org. He might not even feel the same way about some stupid high school crush because he's learning to look past appearances, and I don't just mean physically but how people appear to act. And he's doing that, thanks to Ai Haibara. ^^
When Ai/Conan are together its usually in excellent cases as well as exciting events surrounding to the story. That's very exciting! If their bond were to grow even stronger that would be twisted, new, shocking and just right for a DETECTIVE story. Ran and Shinchi would just be right back where they started...
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Should I mention that the APTX 4869 is the CAUSE OF ALL THIS MESS? So why wouldn't Ai's role be important? Plus, the org is really after her. Shinichi isn't even as important as she is. She was a higher org member, my dear! She was even a part of the Investigation team because she was good at forensics. She is off-standish during cases because she knows rash actions will reveal her identity, which is most familiar to the org. Around cases, there are always journalists, cameras, and police officers who pry. The cases she did help solve like in 135 and 136 were when she was in an isolated place. She really is intelligent, that's obvious, but doesn't have to have a deduction show to prove it as Detective work is not her thing. Science is.Rellik wrote:its funny how i can say the exact same thing back about AiSoragirl6 wrote:
'don't see any women in DC that fits that category' You don't see? Ran, of course. She doesn't really fit the story. What is she there for? Explain it to me. She seemed very useless....simply there to be a lover. All she does is cry. Everytime I watched an episode I was like 'will she do anything useful besides cry?' I mean sure she solved like a few cases, but it really wasn't much help to the story, just there to show Ran. she's only there to be some chick who loves shinchi? Thats not very exciting.
She doesn't seem very useful either, she barely contributes in the cases, like some shady character that butts in every so often.
She doesn't care about her life, i can recall 2 instances where she just want to die.
and im gonna quote one of my previous replies:
'Haibara is a girl that has brains, but a complete emo who likes hiding in her room on a pc trying to find a cure to APTX and making Conan a test subject without a care. To Conan she is just a way to turn back to Shinichi and marry Ran.'
So explain to me, what is she there for?
She's only there so Conan can turn back to Shinichi? that doesn't seem very exciting for me either
Though Ran is not a bad character, what is her purpose in DC really? Of what help is she in finding the org? She's always fainted every time she's seen them (like the New York case), and even if she could fight, she can't take down the org. She has nothing to do with the org! Her father is a detective, but most of the time, she just stands on the sidelines and watch him solve it (rather, make a fool of himself). even with Shinichi she's proven herself to be rather useless, as I've yet to see her do much besides follow him around, and in the end, him saving her in the end.
From reading the whole manga and watching the episodes so far, the story is about Shinichi turning into Conan thanks to the APOTXIN and having to find the BO to turn back into his real body (Which AI has everything to do with). So he moved in with Ran and her father so he can work on cases in order to spot any leads on the Black Org (which is more on Ran's FATHER's part. so what The story shows him struggling to confess amist all of this? That could apply to anyone, but that isn't the main focus of the story. Ran is just a helpless lover who cries for his return, not even knowing that he feels the same...
I feel people only like her because they feel sorry for her because she's always crying, but it doesn't make her useful. On the other hand, Ai is a big part of the story, and the only way he can even think of turning back into Shinichi. If she doesn't find an antidote, he will remain that way forever. She has the playing cards in the game, at the same time SHE is the one on the run from the org, not Shinichi. He can run away in case they question, but really, they want AI (Shiho Miyano).
yes, the cases surround the story, but the basis of the story is the BO who shrunk Shinichi. And Ai has everything to do with it, and what Shinichi wanted to find in the first place: the antidote.
After all this, I feel Shinichi will be a different person. His life has changed and he views life differently now, and so I don't think he and Ran will work anymore. That relationship was ruined by the BO. He will need someone who can be an asset to his future as a detective. What better person than his partner who can help him in the science department and computer department? Ran, if married to Shinichi will more than likely be a house wife still wondering when Shinichi will come home from his cases....AI will more than likely be there with him. As I said before.
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Her having any point at all in the story, or being his goal, does not exclude the fact that they WON"T WORK in a long term relationship. It doesn't take away the fact that they don't LOOK good together. Really, Shinichi noticed her feelings because she already expressed them to him in like the second episode. Whereas Haibara hasn't yet, and who knows how he would react.Misztina wrote: Don't hate me for this, but I always feel some kind of jealousy, when people say negative things about Ran.
First of all, DC is not a shoujo manga, where romance is above all, therefor complicating the main characters love life too muich would cause trouble. ShinihixRan is a very simple relationship on the first sight. they have Their own ups-and-downs, but is is not as flashy as in usual shojos.
Clearly, Ai has a very interesting role in the story, because she loves Shinichi too, but she is kind-hearted enough (or so it seems) to let him to Ran. She lets him be with Ran, because she knows he would be the happiest with her.
Since DC is mostly focused on mysteries and romance gets the second place, major twist (under which I mean real cheating or loving someone else) in the main character's love story is impossible. If the main love pair is not static, I mean if they don't really love eachother and no one else the whole point of DC would fall apart. Because the main point is, that Shinichi wants to get back his real body asap is because of Ran on the first place. He could have gone with his parents to LA, but the mystery and more importantly Ran made him stay. So Shinichi has two major drives mystery and Ran. I won't and will never fit here technically. That's why ShinichixShiho is doomed from the begining. Even if Ran were to die I'm still not so sure whether Shiho and Shinichi would get together.
"Ran has no/little personality, but Ai has more."
People think that Ai has got more personality, because she is a bit more mature than Ran, is "mysterious" and has a dark side. People can relate themselves to Ai, because she has problems and she is is always calm and cool. Where as Ran seems to be plain, and perfect, she is too nice, too kind, only loves Shinichi, is a bit naive and childish. Ran is still not a complete personality and Shinichi finds her enough interesting to "investigate" more on her. And Ran develops by the time and has hardships too. Like this weird relationship with Shinichi. She loves him so much that she would wait for him, 'cause he promised to come back, whatever it takes (wonderful scene in Desperate Revival), her faith in Shinichi won't allow her to investigate on Shinichi, plus the fact that Shinichi investigates on a serious matter and Ran thinks she might get in the way if she just would show up. She understands that she would endanger he, and Shinichi's life if she would just go after him. Her withdrawn from Shinichi is the toughest thing to do. She would just go to him and jump into his arms and everything, but she restrains herself and that is something which not many characters would or even could do. That's a very mature and responsible behaviour from her side.
But, I think in the end, if she senses how dangerous is Shinichi's situation (see the suspicious Okiya) she might really get into trouble in the end.
Ai's background is interesting, but Shinichi doesn't really bother with her personality. Ai's personality is interesting for the readers, but not really for Shinichi. Ai's role is to be the side-lover of the main-character. Not the best role, because we all know what will happen in the end, but still...that's it.
Ran's role is to be a drive/an aim for Shinichi, she is a bit like an idol. If she acts or moves, that makes major happenings, and has a very-very important consequences in the main line. She is not the key (not yet?) to solve the BO case, but without her the story would have less meaning.
Investigating Ran? she's not a hard girl to figure out. Haibara is enigmatic, and as Shinichi slowly learns to understand her, he will be interested in her personality and realize how much the BO has dirtied up her mind. She has gotten stronger, but where she is going Ai has already been.
It also doesn't exclude the fact that she has NOTHING in common with Shinichi. Neither does it prove that she can actually be of use to him in a marriage bond later in life. I can see Ai being by his side as support for his detective working for life. Ran will pretty much lose all interesting points after Shinichi returns. Then what? If he solves anymore cases, Ai would be more useful.
Plus, it would be so boring without Ai and Conan's closeness. They have a special bond. RanShin thing was only interesting for the first few volumes, thats why it was overshadowed by the other cases.